From 1126b059b8ec86dd231e163a0af18c4220449078 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: moculus Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:51:31 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] --HG-- branch : pmacs2 --- buffer/console.py | 18 +- code_examples/screen.mbox | 38564 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ mode/ipython.py | 2 +- 3 files changed, 38580 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) create mode 100644 code_examples/screen.mbox diff --git a/buffer/console.py b/buffer/console.py index caba2e3..a81ff73 100644 --- a/buffer/console.py +++ b/buffer/console.py @@ -1,10 +1,11 @@ -from buffer import Buffer +from buffer import Buffer, ACT_NORM # console is another singleton console = None class ConsoleBuffer(Buffer): btype = 'console' - modename = 'ipython' + #modename = 'ipython' + modename = 'colortext' def __new__(cls, *args, **kwargs): global console if console is None: @@ -15,7 +16,10 @@ class ConsoleBuffer(Buffer): Buffer.__init__(self) self.clear() def clear(self): - lines = ['# Python Console\n', + #lines = ['# Python Console\n', + # "# Evaluate python expressions in the editor's context (self)\n", + # '# Press Control-] to exit\n'] + lines = ['[r:d:*]# Python Console\n', "# Evaluate python expressions in the editor's context (self)\n", '# Press Control-] to exit\n'] console.set_data(''.join(lines), force=True) @@ -28,3 +32,11 @@ class ConsoleBuffer(Buffer): console = None def readonly(self): return True + + #new + def input_insert_lines(self, p, lines, act=ACT_NORM, force=False): + pass + def output_insert_lines(self, p, lines, act=ACT_NORM, force=False): + pass + def result_insert_lines(self, p, lines, act=ACT_NORM, force=False): + pass diff --git a/code_examples/screen.mbox b/code_examples/screen.mbox new file mode 100644 index 0000000..795314e --- /dev/null +++ b/code_examples/screen.mbox @@ -0,0 +1,38564 @@ +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 2 15:22:17 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FE374161B + for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:22:16 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51073 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE7u9-0006LJ-Ug + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:22:13 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE7ts-0006L4-7U + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:21:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE7tr-0006Kh-0g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:21:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58345 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KE7tq-0006Ke-Qw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:21:54 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58851) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KE7tq-0000DZ-Hv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:21:54 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ADA3C8A984; + Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:21:53 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <486BD550.7070809@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:21:52 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: David Chanters +References: +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: rxvt-unicode@lists.schmorp.de, screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Blinking text: %{+B} attribute. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4248 +Lines: 117 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Adding the rxvt-unicode mailing list back in. I'm guessing your thread +had a different title, sorry about the chopped thread, rxvt guys. + +David Chanters wrote: +> However, and this is the crucial part (for those of you playing along +> at home :P), if we set the background color of the hardstatus, as in: +> +> hardstatus alwayslastline '%{= Gb}%-w %{+B}%n %t %+w' +> +> Then the blinking stops entirely under urxvt. +> +> Repeating the exact same tests above running under XTerm instead, +> yields correct behaviour; the title and number of all windows flashes. +> +> Now, i said to you i asked about this on the rxvt-unicode mailing +> list. the reply i got from the author was quite useful. a relevant +> part of that conversation is here (my initial question is prefixed +> with ">"): +> +> > So my question is: how does rxvt-unicode and XTerm compare in terms +> > of how they're told to implement blinking text, and is there anything +> > i can do to make them the same in order to fix my problem? +> +> They implement blinking text effectively identically (i.e. same command +> sequence etc. but different blinking frequency and of course it is +> implemented differently, but from a suer standpoint they work identically). +> +> Your problem is gnu screen not outputting the sequence, and that's likely +> a configuration issue. + +That's incorrect. GNU Screen does in fact output the correct sequence. + +You can test the issue directly by trying the following commands: + + $ tput blink; echo foo; tput sgr0 + +which blinks, and + + $ tput setab 4; tput blink; echo foo; tput sgr0 + +which has a blue background, and doesn't blink. + +I also checked using the direct escape sequences from ECMA-48, and still +get the same results: + + $ printf '\033[44m\033[5mfoo\033[m\n' + $ printf '\033[44m\033[6mfoo\033[m\n' + +(those use the two different possible blinking frequencies.) + +I noticed that my terminfo has the following definitions for rxvt-unicode: + + setab=\E[48;5;%p1%dm + +A parameter value of "48" means to set the background color according to +CCITT Recommendation T.416 (aka ISO 8613-6). A "5" as a parameter of SGR +(denoted by the final "m") normally means blinking text, but when it +follows a 48, it means to use a certain indexed color for the background +(given by the parameter that follows). + +My first guess was that perhaps rxvt-unicode confuses the "5" that would +activate blinking text: + + Esc [ 5 m + ^ +with the 5 that activates indexed color mode: + + Esc [ 48 ; 5 ; 4 m + ^ + +(spaces added for clarity) + +But that guess is probably incorrect, as \E[7m doesn't induce blinking +either when a background color is set, and 7 has no meaning in T.416 +that I'm aware of. + +So, I don't have answers to why this is the case, but it seems quite +clear to me that the problem lies with rxvt-unicode, and not with screen +(screen isn't even involved in any of the above tests). + +> There's obviously something gone awry in screen since xterm is the +> only terminal emulator to properly handle the blinking escape +> sequences screen sends it. Running the same tests above under +> XFCE4-termina, gnome-terminal, rox-terminal, eterm, all yield the same +> result as urxvt does --- change the color of the hardstatus away from +> reverse video and no more blinking text. + +gnome-terminal (at least, for me) never respects blinking at all. +xfce4-terminal uses the same terminal emulation code that gnome-terminal +does, so its lack of support doesn't surprise me. + +Eterm and rox-terminal I'm not very familiar with, but I suspect that +there is an explicit decision not to support blinking in some terminals, +as it is considered by many to be evil. + +- -- +Micah J. 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When the line was back up, I attempted +> to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably because +> the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands I +> try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen -D +> [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen -Rd +> [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, and +> it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I somehow +> managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem +> occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually fix +> it. Any ideas? +> +> Thanks, +> +> Samir Unni +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 2 16:23:40 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858DC74138B + for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:23:39 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48266 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE8rY-0005H4-Oe + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:23:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE8qz-00058X-2V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:23:01 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KE8qx-00057J-4x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:23:00 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42418 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KE8qw-00057B-TW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:22:58 -0400 +Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.182]:30073) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KE8qw-0003ot-Fd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:22:58 -0400 +Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n30so87610elf.12 + for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=pgNpCfhNeDX48F5asNGu3wmga/hc6BEYNroTe3RvMjw=; + b=Z5q3cnTPJxESHqyM/+obbYMb+7/ENUVWjX/NL+BWiIDm8BhZ5xw11jLLbh21CmRVW1 + OZ6KJU0mSsVSlJvL2w1O+RpGaTtKMzJtMv8grs/+NBLbRBS9oemuZ26dzObRPKbcBaoh + Zu9AFY2USEOuCfGOmRxIjRIJ/ZOGX+G0n7Scs= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=Ml8hL3EiF3X5GwWhuTESol9RxcSO6hgWNv83KiJY5f4dEjAoq7IPJ1eFbaId5vYAe0 + HPmy6GO00z5WfhmrQlbw/+kXxXwlqflmWry6H0lxM7JNoLGZ8RYCTO/Kt/UCkRHPRkp4 + mObgsly7EfmXGa/StA1XJQOuUscpyKReGz3j4= +Received: by 10.151.154.12 with SMTP id g12mr13800582ybo.165.1215030177737; + Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.151.106.5 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:22:57 -0500 +From: "Samir Unni" +To: davidcollins001@gmail.com +In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <283efb240807020927h68275bdajd63e32ee2b9a05e8@mail.gmail.com> + <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Unable to resume screen session following accidental + disconnection +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0429468155==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3848 +Lines: 93 + +--===============0429468155== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_7655_12974088.1215030177734" + +------=_Part_7655_12974088.1215030177734 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns out +that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears. + +On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, wrote: + +> I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this? +> +> On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni wrote: +> > Hi, +> > +> > I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a +> lot +> > of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the remote +> box +> > is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I +> attempted +> > to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably +> because +> > the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands I +> > try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen +> -D +> > [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen +> -Rd +> > [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, +> and +> > it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I somehow +> > managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem +> > occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually +> fix +> > it. Any ideas? +> > +> > Thanks, +> > +> > Samir Unni +> > +> + +------=_Part_7655_12974088.1215030177734 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns out that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, <davidcollins001@gmail.com> wrote:
+
I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this?
+

+On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+> Hi,
+>
+> I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a lot
+> of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the remote box
+> is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I attempted
+> to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably because
+> the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands I
+> try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen -D
+> [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen -Rd
+> [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, and
+> it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I somehow
+> managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem
+> occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually fix
+> it. Any ideas?
+>
+> Thanks,
+>
+> Samir Unni
+>
+

+ +------=_Part_7655_12974088.1215030177734-- + + + +--===============0429468155== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============0429468155==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 3 05:30:17 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F56740F3D + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:30:17 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43363 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEL8o-0003jm-7o + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:30:14 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEL73-0002n0-4N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:28:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEL6z-0002j9-Uq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:28:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KEL6z-0002iY-Eb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:28:21 -0400 +Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]:45868) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KEL6x-0001vW-LI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 05:28:20 -0400 +Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe1.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) + by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id + m639S6UU027011 + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:28:16 GMT +Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com + (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) + id <0K3F0070193YQZ00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> + (original mail from Vladimir.Marek@Sun.COM) for screen-users@gnu.org; + Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:28:06 +0100 (BST) +Received: from @ ([129.157.18.82]) + by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built + Feb 28 + 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K3F00L36BM4TU00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for + screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:27:41 +0100 (BST) +Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:27:36 +0200 +From: Vladimir Marek +In-reply-to: <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Mail-followup-to: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-id: <20080703092736.GE6661@pub> +MIME-version: 1.0 +References: <283efb240807020927h68275bdajd63e32ee2b9a05e8@mail.gmail.com> + <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-06-02) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Re: Unable to resume screen session following + accidental disconnection +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0479667534==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1208 +Lines: 51 + + +--===============0479667534== +Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="q/pEX8mWBr1bFlcC"; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 +Content-disposition: inline + + +--q/pEX8mWBr1bFlcC +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +> No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns = +out +> that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears. + +This also happened to me several times, unfortunately I never was ready +with debugger. + +--=20 + Vlad + +--q/pEX8mWBr1bFlcC +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature +Content-Disposition: inline + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (SunOS) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkhsm4gACgkQqVN0MVP42YwOFACgo7UpLs8PyIEKmIecPI9dZQib ++mMAoMMzHYZsE6rhKnTq/Z/l395H/8mR +=B6su +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--q/pEX8mWBr1bFlcC-- + + + +--===============0479667534== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============0479667534==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 3 09:26:02 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB0074269D + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51844 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOox-0001nQ-S5 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:25:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOod-0001mH-7a + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:25:39 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOoc-0001lW-47 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:25:38 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51181 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KEOob-0001lQ-VB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:25:38 -0400 +Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.240]:36995) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KEOob-0005D3-KM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:25:37 -0400 +Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 55so214223hsc.10 + for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:25:36 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=bcnAbPy68ITa8kofG4nsDtoCgO+ZPnWoFcd2ZOPp/AM=; + b=mK3d9re57uq014VtpLq7xgJMJwMhBkg94aqKoJEGy3Y5aqMJ2FSb8LpjdDpxniTV3M + fsSkgwg2urPtE07kSOpNS66bFBeqjZOFRV61ICYzfWccXHrmHzPZOmJI9Y2W7qS7Xosa + /T25QReIXNr5Yu06F8zKi4Xc+KKp8Kd312E+U= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=WnypLxHEFnryBVDiTtt4UKyDukxs5qUqogLh5Dj5D1YXkXkVyvMkNPw0aW5t+BZixh + m/5mLHl4MR8D6p7ACHQnoIx+KFsIcMAV45313/HWqyzpgAelZMmjW/TCxMvGkpEuU65I + NAy1onbG5q0OiHJRB0GAocdadGxMClgw9bGcQ= +Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr8757wfh.264.1215091535383; + Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:25:35 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.185.6 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:25:35 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <383524a00807030625l369abb5q4ea563670d5f8eae@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:25:35 +0200 +From: "dark wolf" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <20080703092736.GE6661@pub> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <283efb240807020927h68275bdajd63e32ee2b9a05e8@mail.gmail.com> + <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> + <20080703092736.GE6661@pub> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Unable to resume screen session following accidental + disconnection +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1692386158==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2428 +Lines: 69 + +--===============1692386158== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_8006_18631722.1215091535389" + +------=_Part_8006_18631722.1215091535389 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +just kill the last ssh session that was used to attach your screen session +then try again. + +2008/7/3 Vladimir Marek : + +> > No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns +> out +> > that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears. +> +> This also happened to me several times, unfortunately I never was ready +> with debugger. +> +> -- +> Vlad +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> + +------=_Part_8006_18631722.1215091535389 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +just kill the last ssh session that was used to attach your screen session then try again.

2008/7/3 Vladimir Marek <Vladimir.Marek@sun.com>:
+
> No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns out
+ +> that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears.
+
+
This also happened to me several times, unfortunately I never was ready
+with debugger.
+
+--
+        Vlad
+
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+ +------=_Part_8006_18631722.1215091535389-- + + + +--===============1692386158== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1692386158==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 3 09:36:57 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A3E39B252 + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:36:57 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36538 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOzW-0005WG-Oq + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:36:54 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOzB-0005Vs-TB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:36:33 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KEOzA-0005VV-Bc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:36:33 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52577 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KEOzA-0005VR-6g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:36:32 -0400 +Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com ([192.18.6.24]:59653) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KEOz9-0007Gr-GB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:36:31 -0400 +Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) + by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id + m63DaKHT002297 + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:36:29 GMT +Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com + (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) + id <0K3F00C01MUYE700@fe-emea-09.sun.com> + (original mail from Vladimir.Marek@Sun.COM) for screen-users@gnu.org; + Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:36:20 +0100 (BST) +Received: from @ ([129.157.18.82]) + by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built + Feb 28 + 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K3F00MJ2N4CWX60@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for + screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:36:13 +0100 (BST) +Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:36:08 +0200 +From: Vladimir Marek +In-reply-to: <383524a00807030625l369abb5q4ea563670d5f8eae@mail.gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Mail-followup-to: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-id: <20080703133608.GB22928@pub> +MIME-version: 1.0 +References: <283efb240807020927h68275bdajd63e32ee2b9a05e8@mail.gmail.com> + <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> + <20080703092736.GE6661@pub> + <383524a00807030625l369abb5q4ea563670d5f8eae@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-07-02) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Re: Unable to resume screen session following + accidental disconnection +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0668650172==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1162 +Lines: 52 + + +--===============0668650172== +Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=x4pBfXISqBoDm8sr; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 +Content-disposition: inline + + +--x4pBfXISqBoDm8sr +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +> just kill the last ssh session that was used to attach your screen session +> then try again. + +I think that the screen was local, but I might be wrong. I'll remember +it though. + +Thank you for the tip + +--=20 + Vlad + +--x4pBfXISqBoDm8sr +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature +Content-Disposition: inline + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (SunOS) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkhs1cgACgkQqVN0MVP42Yz0QQCgy3bM8EcwcPI7Aacuig72JeuQ +yYYAoJgqcxCLwWkXt99sFzw1qYwdD4yi +=GRxY +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--x4pBfXISqBoDm8sr-- + + + +--===============0668650172== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============0668650172==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 3 12:30:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55097423D0 + for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:30:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33245 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KERhX-0006Da-SI + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:30:31 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KERJ1-0006Z2-6r + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:05:11 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KERIt-0006Ra-TH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:05:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33021 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KERIs-0006Pm-7j + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:05:02 -0400 +Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.185]:6900) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KERIq-0002Ff-U9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:05:01 -0400 +Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k32so297112rnd.7 + for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:04:51 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=zHpAGJrJSOv2BXkMn/ItEqwlKy1nSxDswrQzXQoll0s=; + b=VBJYIvjeml+KG3dueknvZJHsnExcpF1BjxO05cjOhpBt1EzVEvciAnxtJRXceNQppm + eDfEgvN9AWJd0CTQOorY6dhWNw4TRKuBFyobZx8vVYyO+QTVDb21igvvELsS9iLKLtwP + sXCGJhyBmqg6dVZmassU3vxzYxsFVsxfTFxn8= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=xX6vJUap0RKoqTxf+IbPLamcI2KfYqk62V7YjjOsZOfj5OjAa9sfzQws5b9XllmPkQ + JqPnJVUtzit23IgvOrvEhVr4acDnmsTYFI0ByVDr+QDBkvnzxCAG9rCbReOdY4b10Odj + YUYROtWvPVmulcsauam3WOZWAcWHz0NoY9wlc= +Received: by 10.150.156.20 with SMTP id d20mr545526ybe.230.1215101091832; + Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:04:51 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.151.106.5 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:04:51 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <283efb240807030904n51443d65yb626a2406a300fa@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:04:51 -0500 +From: "Samir Unni" +To: davidcollins001@gmail.com +In-Reply-To: <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <283efb240807020927h68275bdajd63e32ee2b9a05e8@mail.gmail.com> + <1b30fd140807021321w78e40958oe4e3a4e1ed77773f@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807021322j6e88d1c4s10220a6f6f3ad9ea@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Unable to resume screen session following accidental + disconnection +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1458634227==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4554 +Lines: 107 + +--===============1458634227== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_11642_19786061.1215101091817" + +------=_Part_11642_19786061.1215101091817 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +I just ran into the same issue, and 'screen -x [session name]' worked +perfectly. Thanks for the tip! + +On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Samir Unni wrote: + +> No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns +> out that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally +> appears. +> +> +> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, wrote: +> +>> I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this? +>> +>> On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni wrote: +>> > Hi, +>> > +>> > I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a +>> lot +>> > of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the remote +>> box +>> > is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I +>> attempted +>> > to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably +>> because +>> > the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands +>> I +>> > try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen +>> -D +>> > [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen +>> -Rd +>> > [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, +>> and +>> > it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I +>> somehow +>> > managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem +>> > occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually +>> fix +>> > it. Any ideas? +>> > +>> > Thanks, +>> > +>> > Samir Unni +>> > +>> +> +> + +------=_Part_11642_19786061.1215101091817 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +I just ran into the same issue, and 'screen -x [session name]' worked perfectly. Thanks for the tip!

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+
No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns out that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears.
+


On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, <davidcollins001@gmail.com> wrote:
+
I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this?
+

+On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+> Hi,
+>
+> I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a lot
+> of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the remote box
+> is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I attempted
+> to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably because
+> the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands I
+> try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen -D
+> [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen -Rd
+> [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, and
+> it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I somehow
+> managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem
+> occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually fix
+> it. Any ideas?
+>
+> Thanks,
+>
+> Samir Unni
+>
+

+

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I just had to wait for something (don't +know exactly what) to time out. + +On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Samir Unni wrote: + +> I just ran into the same issue, and 'screen -x [session name]' worked +> perfectly. Thanks for the tip! +> +> +> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Samir Unni wrote: +> +>> No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns +>> out that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally +>> appears. +>> +>> +>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, wrote: +>> +>>> I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this? +>>> +>>> On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni wrote: +>>> > Hi, +>>> > +>>> > I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a +>>> lot +>>> > of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the +>>> remote box +>>> > is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I +>>> attempted +>>> > to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably +>>> because +>>> > the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands +>>> I +>>> > try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], +>>> screen -D +>>> > [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen +>>> -Rd +>>> > [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, +>>> and +>>> > it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I +>>> somehow +>>> > managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem +>>> > occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to +>>> actually fix +>>> > it. Any ideas? +>>> > +>>> > Thanks, +>>> > +>>> > Samir Unni +>>> > +>>> +>> +>> +> + +------=_Part_12410_10389532.1215111924870 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Actually, when it happened to me a second time a little while later, 'screen -x [session name]' would not work. I just had to wait for something (don't know exactly what) to time out.

+On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+I just ran into the same issue, and 'screen -x [session name]' worked perfectly. Thanks for the tip!


On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+ +
No, I haven't. I'll try it the next time I encounter this problem. Turns out that when I let it sit for about 10 minutes, the session finally appears.
+ +


On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM, <davidcollins001@gmail.com> wrote:
+
I use screen -x to attach to an attached session, have you tried this?
+

+On 02/07/2008, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+> Hi,
+>
+> I was using screen, and my session was disconnected while outputting a lot
+> of text (presumably due to a router choking---the upwidth for the remote box
+> is pretty low, only about 13 kB/s). When the line was back up, I attempted
+> to resume my screen session, but it was already attached (presumably because
+> the connection was dropped unexpectedly). However, none of the commands I
+> try, including screen -r [pid], screen -d [pid], screen -R [pid], screen -D
+> [pid], screen -rD [pid], screen -RD [pid], screen -rd [pid], and screen -Rd
+> [pid] will reattach this session. I tried running an strace on the pid, and
+> it says that it's still outputting text. After waiting a while, I somehow
+> managed to get the sesion to reattach---I'm not sure how. The problem
+> occured again shortly afterwards, and I can't figure out how to actually fix
+> it. Any ideas?
+>
+> Thanks,
+>
+> Samir Unni
+>
+

+

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I just had to wait for something (don't +> know exactly what) to time out. + +Exactly, I found out that screen -x helped few times, bug was hung other +times. + +--=20 + Vlad + +--GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature +Content-Disposition: inline + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (SunOS) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkht06QACgkQqVN0MVP42YwI7ACdE3F7tk5/heqD2QtZgl9JEUWh +j7cAoNZ07a5DSp8/veVV7IID/gcFngrG +=yt2h +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA-- + + + +--===============1384809043== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1384809043==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Jul 6 14:19:10 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526B2740D5E + for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:19:10 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56456 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KFYpH-00038W-6x + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:19:07 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KFYoy-00038P-8g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:18:48 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KFYow-00038D-OQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:18:47 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32779 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFYow-00038A-Ji + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:18:46 -0400 +Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com ([72.14.204.168]:27540) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KFYow-00065O-Bu + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:18:46 -0400 +Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id c5so6655764qbc.2 + for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:18:42 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; + d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=vOTVYsZbfH3pRnqOaq6F3AsH3V1eXY7oa7DNbFFcGmA=; + b=Kv+KoGpSsadFetMrD+j+4IQMJQI9cIV62OxFG2EkgYSfL+3pydBqOEf59hbWiD4yYe + IbyY++jrcrn3HGFakoJ3pyX/f+tcpGCc0Y6drrrx5mrax4iijZjCfFazGgAgSpQUygSV + k2ekVm1UTeHAnJ7IDg6YICDnSCRkpy4LF1awM= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=W0FR9lF2sWcpM4l4jZZuIHWS+cmp3EMVdqCkBWev0kAkrPr9K48iaMbRGjM1pu6GPj + UhXenwIFiuFZQFXOINJ2bv7hV++r6gK66RYagpRzMXRO5MZ/MfxF256ynpvPEBjCir9S + UrqUgZ0L5c9skvE+SsKuYwnWeFAm9TSwedjtE= +Received: by 10.142.135.16 with SMTP id i16mr992638wfd.286.1215368321358; + Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:18:41 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.171.17 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:18:41 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:18:41 +0100 +From: "David Chanters" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Hardstatus format question +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 603 +Lines: 23 + +Hi all, + +This should be simple, hopefully. :) + +I'm wanting to produce a hardstatus line which looks like this: + +| 1 | 2 | 3 | *4 | + +Where "*4" in this instance refers to the window with focus. But I +can't work out how to do it. I note from the documentation that "w" +refers to both the window number *and* title, but in the hardstatus i +just want the number --- i have a separate caption string to display +other information. + +Thanks in advance. + +David + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 8 14:41:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A10E2E7 + for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:41:53 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53221 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KGI8J-00063j-Tm + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:41:48 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KGI6o-0005R9-1H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KGI6l-0005Ps-C4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:13 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40272 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KGI6j-0005Oe-Ks; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:09 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:33542) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KGI6j-0000LI-8T; Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:09 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080EC3C8A92E; + Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4873B485.8050903@cowan.name> +Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:40:05 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: +Subject: Hardstatus issue with current screen, gnome-terminal +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2275 +Lines: 54 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +There's a bug I've been looking into, where the hardstatus line at the +bottom of the screen isn't updating properly when using the "autoaka" +("SEARCH|NAME") feature of the shelltitle command (and appropriate +escapes in the shell prompt). This only occurs for gnome-terminal and +xfce4-terminal (both based on the VTE widgit), and only with the current +repo sources, not in existing releases. + +The bug is tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?23699 +There are a couple of scripts there that can be used to produce the problem. + +After spending some significant time analyzing what's going on, it looks +like some combination of the use of CSR ("change scroll region") to set +up the hardstatus line, and then interspersing scrolls of the upper N-1 +lines with updates of the final hardstatus line, causes the problem. +Screen is clearly not doing anything wrong, so the bug is VTE's. + +However, the fact remains that previous versions of Screen would work, +whereas the current one doesn't. It turns out that the difference is, +release versions of Screen have always sent an "Erase Line" sequence +before re-drawing the status line, whereas the current source no longer +does that. This was probably to minimize any "flashing" that might be +seen as the status line is redrawn. + +However, despite the fact that this is not our bug, it's still kind of +our problem, in that if we don't work around it, we'll have to direct +anyone who bumps into it how to deal with it (it can be worked around by +disabling scroll regions, forcing screen to use other means to handle +scrolls: "terminfo xterm* cs@"). So, I'm inclined to put the +line-erasure back in, to address this problem. + +Any comments, thoughts? + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIc7SF7M8hyUobTrERApwuAJ9ULk/ccmeMEMFldFGQGPhIrDmekACghpQ8 +wDK6QbUteR9m++FXQylM/pE= +=+mBB +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 14 09:49:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A63810776 + for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37483 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIOQv-00014j-88 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49:41 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KHSgi-0006Ur-Fb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:10:08 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KHSgh-0006U7-Pt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:10:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48455 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHSgh-0006Tu-Ic + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:10:07 -0400 +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([144.122.71.113]:44368) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KHSgh-00013K-0d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:10:07 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D95B7DE + for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:10:04 +0300 (EEST) +X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cclub.metu.edu.tr +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id YRxyLcTXdn0r for ; + Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:10:00 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from [10.0.0.6] (unknown [85.98.132.224]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02813E1A + for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:10:00 +0300 (EEST) +Message-ID: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> +Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:10:00 +0300 +From: Gokdeniz Karadag +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; + rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080512 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:48:04 -0400 +Subject: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3139 +Lines: 72 + +Hi, + +This is more like a story, I am trying to automatically set +"GNU screen window title" equal to the hostname that is connected by ssh. + +I am using the following for hardstatus, which presents a list of all open windows +hardstatus lastline "%-Lw%{= BW}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%<" + +Also my .screenrc connects to some machines, +screen -t hostname +stuff "ssh hostname\015 +.... + +Sometimes I logout of the connected machine and connect to another. I don't +want to set title each time I do this. If there is no screen in the way, the +following bash variable shows the hostname in xterm title. +PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${HOSTNAME}\007"' + +If I use this, and change %t->%h in hardstatus string, the hostname shows in +the "currently selected window only", but not the others. As there is no +equivalent of "-w" "+w" for xterm title(which is an actual "hard" status), this +path was blocked. + +Setting the following in all machines achieves what I want, +it sets screen title to hostname, +PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\033k${HOSTNAME}\033\\"' +but when I connect to the machine out of screen, It prints the hostname +literally, so the prompt becomes like "hostname user@hostname $ " , which is +ugly and redundant. + +To ensure that only ssh sessions within a GNU screen get the "title setter +prompt command", environment variables are useful, I can use the TERM variable, +but in stable debian, the default TERM=screen breaks vim editor, it goes crazy +when you press home, or pageup buttons. Using TERM=xterm fixes this, so I +cannot check for TERM being equal to "screen". + +I put "setenv INSCREEN yes" into .screenrc, and in the target shell, I set +PROMPT_COMMAND if this variable is set, but then,(surprise, surprise!) ssh +would not pass variables to target machine. At least, does not pass unless you +use AcceptEnv in ssh server config, but I don't want to use it for security +reasons. Ok, maybe not because of security, but changing "ssh server +configuration" for only setting screen's window title seems absurd. + + +A solution that I imagined was to extend the "stuff" line; it does the ssh +connection, then puts the PROMPT_COMMAND to set GNU screen window title. +escaping this correctly was a chore, but I managed after some experimentation. +stuff "ssh hostname\015export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\\033k\${HOSTNAME}\\033\\\\\"'\015" + +But of course, the connections made after these do not set the title. If only +there was a way to set GNU screen window title to the "hard status" set by the +escape sequences in PROMPT_COMMAND of bash ... + + +[[ rant: Why, why, why this great software gets the most generic name of "screen" ? +What's next, "computer", which is a shell that works by reading your mind, +and "earth" which gives the answer to life, the universe, and everything; and does +not only say '42' ? So that you search the web for them and find nothing :-/ + +Please use "GNU screen" all the time, to be search engine friendly, +like I did in this message :-S + +/rant ]] + +-- +Gokdeniz Karadag + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 14 19:47:00 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE6843B11A + for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:59 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49864 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIXku-0000O7-LO + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:56 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIXka-0000Nm-4F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:36 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIXkX-0000Na-M1 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:34 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38068 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIXkX-0000NX-Ec + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:33 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail02.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.66]:54038 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KIXkW-0007D3-Hs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:46:33 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 333317326-1927428 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:16:24 +0930 (CST) +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:46:22 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080714234619.GA2522@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3936 +Lines: 100 + +On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 03:10:00AM +0300, Gokdeniz Karadag wrote: +> This is more like a story, I am trying to automatically set "GNU +> screen window title" equal to the hostname that is connected by ssh. + +In my .profile, which exists on all my machines and is evaluated for +all interactive logins (i.e. "ssh fooserv", but not "ssh fooserv +pwd"), I have + + type uname >/dev/null 2>&1 && + test -n "${HOSTNAME:=`uname -n`}" && + case "$TERM" in + screen*) printf %bk%s%b%b \\033 "${HOSTNAME%%.*}" \\033 \\0134;; + esac + +Note that the "type" builtin isn't portable, if you use .bash_profile +you can instead just use + + case "$TERM" in + screen*) printf %bk%s%b%b \\033 "${HOSTNAME%%.*}" \\033 \\0134;; + esac + +I use this in preference to doing it inside screen because I couldn't +work out how to have an "alias" or "function" in screen such that + + C-a x fooserv RET + +would expand to something like + + C-a :screen -t fooserv ssh fooserv + +If anyone knows how to do that, I'd prefer it (since customer machines +don't have my .profile installed). + +> Sometimes I logout of the connected machine and connect to another. +> I don't want to set title each time I do this. If there is no +> screen in the way, the following bash variable shows the hostname in +> xterm title. PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${HOSTNAME}\007"' + +Oh, have a screen window with a shell, and you run "ssh fooserv" in +the shell. I *think* my approach still works in that case. + +> If I use this, and change %t->%h in hardstatus string, the hostname +> shows in the "currently selected window only", but not the +> others. As there is no equivalent of "-w" "+w" for xterm title(which +> is an actual "hard" status), this path was blocked. + +I didn't understand any of that paragraph. + +> To ensure that only ssh sessions within a GNU screen get the "title +> setter prompt command", environment variables are useful, I can use +> the TERM variable, but in stable debian, the default TERM=screen +> breaks vim editor, it goes crazy when you press home, or pageup +> buttons. Using TERM=xterm fixes this, so I cannot check for TERM +> being equal to "screen". + +Then you should fix vim, not train Screen to work with the wrong +settings. Does vim work correctly (with TERM screen) if you tell it +not to evaluate your .vimrc and such? If so, then the problem is with +your .vimrc, not with vim itself. + +> I put "setenv INSCREEN yes" into .screenrc, and in the target shell, +> I set PROMPT_COMMAND if this variable is set, but then,(surprise, +> surprise!) ssh would not pass variables to target machine. At +> least, does not pass unless you use AcceptEnv in ssh server config, +> but I don't want to use it for security reasons. + +You need to configure ssh to do so with the SendEnv directive in +~/.ssh/config. See ssh_config(5) manpage. Dunno about AcceptEnv, I +guess you've tried it more than I have. + +> Ok, maybe not because of security, but changing "ssh server +> configuration" for only setting screen's window title seems absurd. + +I agree. + +> A solution that I imagined was to extend the "stuff" line; it does the ssh +> connection, then puts the PROMPT_COMMAND to set GNU screen window title. +> escaping this correctly was a chore, but I managed after some experimentation. +> stuff "ssh hostname\015export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\\033k\${HOSTNAME}\\033\\\\\"'\015" + +Instead of using :stuff, why not just set the title when you create +the screen window, running ssh instead of the default shell? + +C-a :screen -t fooserv ssh fooserv + +> But of course, the connections made after these do not set the title. + +In the approach I propose, each subsequent ssh would get a fresh +window, so this would work. + +> [[ rant: Why, why, why this great software gets the most generic +> name of "screen" ? + +I agree. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 05:27:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297D8307688 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:27:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52095 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIgou-0001BS-Ry + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:27:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIgmR-0000Nk-PT + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:25:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIgmQ-0000N9-4T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:25:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54076 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIglA-0008Jr-KS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:23:48 -0400 +Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:37944) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KIgJE-0000wG-6h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:54:56 -0400 +Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2008 08:54:53 -0000 +Received: from cpc2-epso3-0-0-cust893.hers.cable.ntl.com (EHLO blacktrash.org) + [86.2.171.126] + by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 15 Jul 2008 10:54:53 +0200 +X-Authenticated: #11198714 +X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+vCuAeIHmvfv1cNpwGPTTGgaoqWzQI76M71W6zX9 + HGVKA8UCwHnTtt +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:54:46 +0100 +From: Christian Ebert +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080715085446.GR11259@krille.blacktrash.org> +Mail-Followup-To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +In-Reply-To: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> +Organization: Black Trash Productions +X-Face: )&#alA:[x"-#%%./(nuC&8n;#gqM;=mfY&ivRz@Gnv|AD_0l1Uz{fnJ^BW~OX[d;/)z! yV +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-07-11) +X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 +X-FuHaFi: 0.59 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1182 +Lines: 32 + +* Gokdeniz Karadag on Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 03:10:00 +0300 +> Setting the following in all machines achieves what I want, it sets +> screen title to hostname, +> PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\033k${HOSTNAME}\033\\"' +> but when I connect to the machine out of screen, It prints the hostname +> literally, so the prompt becomes like "hostname user@hostname $ " , which is +> ugly and redundant. +> +> To ensure that only ssh sessions within a GNU screen get the "title setter +> prompt command", environment variables are useful, I can use the TERM variable, +> but in stable debian, the default TERM=screen breaks vim editor, it goes crazy +> when you press home, or pageup buttons. Using TERM=xterm fixes this, so I +> cannot check for TERM being equal to "screen". + +Does checking for $STY work for your purposes? + +if [ -n "$STY" ] + +fi + +c +-- + Was heißt hier Dogma, ich bin Underdogma! +[ What the hell do you mean dogma, I am underdogma. ] + +_F R E E_ _V I D E O S_ -->> http://www.blacktrash.org/underdogma/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 12:55:34 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4446073E4B5 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:34 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57564 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KInoH-0002YS-BF + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:29 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KInnw-0002Y9-2m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:08 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KInnu-0002Xv-Jr + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44718 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KInnu-0002Xs-F6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:06 -0400 +Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.185]:25285) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KInnu-0007h0-1r + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:55:06 -0400 +Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2428607tia.10 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:55:04 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type; + bh=5mvTXMUo0DP9HZDdhIoDTfptWUeOHVzrIbSL+wk8/kM=; + b=JtSWwKgDj9+kSW0Q97jDFpr3dPqUkwb2vdyWYOKzpyF2u2zLOaB2YKcjUAvGLRGaOk + 7NbCIqzK73+7+QL+FBCdgHYrV7dikAEesCkS+7NvlK2SPG1dRioq/hiqUdMN5BdHOy2G + +Rr7iAD3p1wjuJy4P8TsVmbNCxcMuL0baghl0= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; + b=BbQJdS5KofvwcsSE/dvu7gwQYk+RUyGj0gyn7VlObhupLWhwD7wIWXLq7l9VxqMl4y + e2WkaZAXBgWnT1M1xwyUCt0C8KuXuxeQHi9ipqBUys07VEBV4I2HPvEOgxoi3ZjoT14b + rs2zRaGxkv1IRI0YeIDEe2mOUXBBA4xgv632g= +Received: by 10.150.136.6 with SMTP id j6mr571192ybd.126.1216140902742; + Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.151.66.1 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:55:02 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <45c43ef50807150955s6b01bf05k4320220455cdc80e@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:55:02 -0700 +From: "Bruce Edge" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: format windowlist view with color. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1488072615==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1686 +Lines: 47 + +--===============1488072615== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_59697_27389695.1216140902694" + +------=_Part_59697_27389695.1216140902694 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +I have a lot of stuff in my screen sessions. 30+ terminal sessions on a +dozen or more machines. +I've tries a lot of things to make it more readable at a glance, but it +keeps coming back to wanting color to highlight sections of it. + +Does anyone know how to add color escape sequences to the windowlist view? + +I have RTFM'd and experimented a lot, but it just prints whatever escape seq +I put in it. + +Thanks in advance +-Bruce + +------=_Part_59697_27389695.1216140902694 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +I have a lot of stuff in my screen sessions. 30+ terminal sessions on a dozen or more machines.
I've tries a lot of things to make it more readable at a glance, but it keeps coming back to wanting color to highlight sections of it.
+
Does anyone know how to add color escape sequences to the windowlist view?

I have RTFM'd and experimented a lot, but it just prints whatever escape seq I put in it.

Thanks in advance
-Bruce
+ +------=_Part_59697_27389695.1216140902694-- + + + +--===============1488072615== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1488072615==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 13:38:55 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6461873E500 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52212 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIoUF-0006kG-0c + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:51 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIoTx-0006jb-5y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:33 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIoTs-0006hB-HR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:32 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36608 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIoTs-0006h7-EU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:47793) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KIoTs-0007Hs-82 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:28 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EAC3D88036; + Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <487CE070.5080403@cowan.name> +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:37:52 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Bruce Edge +References: <45c43ef50807150955s6b01bf05k4320220455cdc80e@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <45c43ef50807150955s6b01bf05k4320220455cdc80e@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: format windowlist view with color. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2057 +Lines: 59 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Bruce Edge wrote: +> I have a lot of stuff in my screen sessions. 30+ terminal sessions on a +> dozen or more machines. +> I've tries a lot of things to make it more readable at a glance, but it +> keeps coming back to wanting color to highlight sections of it. +> +> Does anyone know how to add color escape sequences to the windowlist view? +> +> I have RTFM'd and experimented a lot, but it just prints whatever escape +> seq I put in it. + +"Put in it"? How have you put anything in the windowlist view? The +windowlist is not modifiable, to my knowledge. + +A common technique is to use the hardstatus to keep track of windows +(see the bottom of the "String Escapes" section for a handy example of +this). Not sure if that'll help a ton with 30+ terminal sessions... + +You may find the "group" functionality of the current development +sources to be handy; you can create a group window with + + C-a : screen -t my-group //group + +and then any windows you create from the group window, or from a window +that's part of the group, will be a part of that group. When in a window +that's part of a group, only other windows of that group will show up in +the windowlist or hardstatus %w/%W escapes (you can get a full list by +giving windowlist the -m option). + +You can also change the group a window is in with + + C-a : group my-group + +The feature's currently got some glitches (Killing a group window seems +to freeze screen for me, but only sometimes). But it can be a useful +organization tool. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIfOBv7M8hyUobTrERAmFpAJ9KMTwIWSv1IptBEu3H0pyWxWWvVwCfdxCa +g78yWK5xf33ieETVp+lzjzA= +=Hh3l +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 15 13:56:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE32E73E500 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:56:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52176 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIolI-0007s2-0I + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:56:28 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIoka-0007Wy-Em + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:55:44 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIokZ-0007Wm-Ud + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:55:44 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45220 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIokZ-0007Wj-Ol + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:55:43 -0400 +Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.144]:60072) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KIokZ-00024g-D8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:55:43 -0400 +Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so197155qwf.24 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=DZyasnoEUQYx4dpdBZ6RtH8dWH89lFsCmfhjjK5C0so=; + b=rx1e1EoKnRIz08lqAXMZafblzxg4HJUB6JUdpu3weP3YXhhH+YHKVMuhQ/6kKEZa4R + oBKCqdl/pt118YBJmViPW3RIZHN6kZMXdoN9jeyhCbyiAsbmRZyhRRXQonPuQsN//MDx + bOJ8sy19tw/GtcoIuaVjOQIHh7k5i/IN/3Giw= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=T1WLe2uaz0KszdWQSKQcYx+AUuJV8QrVbptyraMGhiUrbDgivoieTaH81EWvzzjtlh + +VMh7R0N/WX/dekhoFjyCdsAKio+FxicMtOzoyGSd2ulEiAT9vUGS+BcVkYpSrUwKQEj + l6J4J2K96181EhojsSMw/WbGb/gZ2E1NsdfXI= +Received: by 10.151.155.21 with SMTP id h21mr652323ybo.143.1216144542243; + Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.151.66.1 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <45c43ef50807151055x17125beaof90b5fdea6a52f2b@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:55:42 -0700 +From: "Bruce Edge" +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <487CE070.5080403@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <45c43ef50807150955s6b01bf05k4320220455cdc80e@mail.gmail.com> + <487CE070.5080403@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: format windowlist view with color. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0906617666==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 7151 +Lines: 157 + +--===============0906617666== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_60789_20719481.1216144542230" + +------=_Part_60789_20719481.1216144542230 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Micah Cowan wrote: + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Bruce Edge wrote: +> > I have a lot of stuff in my screen sessions. 30+ terminal sessions on a +> > dozen or more machines. +> > I've tries a lot of things to make it more readable at a glance, but it +> > keeps coming back to wanting color to highlight sections of it. +> > +> > Does anyone know how to add color escape sequences to the windowlist +> view? +> > +> > I have RTFM'd and experimented a lot, but it just prints whatever escape +> > seq I put in it. +> +> "Put in it"? How have you put anything in the windowlist view? The +> windowlist is not modifiable, to my knowledge. +> + +OK, bad terminology. I'm setting the window's title. + +So, to rephrase, are there any color escape sequences that can be used in +the window title? +This would then show the same color for the title in the window list. + +I wanted to change the color of the title for any windows that were running +a command, ie: not at a shell prompt. This would make it easier to pick out +what windows had running commands. Currently I change the window title to +to ">> command <<" to make them stand out a bit when they are running +something. (using zsh preexec) + +Another would be to change the title color then the last shell command +returned a non-zero status. This would be like an alert for when a command +failed. + +Also, all my build/edit windows for a particular source branch would have +the same color, etc... + + + +> +> A common technique is to use the hardstatus to keep track of windows +> (see the bottom of the "String Escapes" section for a handy example of +> this). Not sure if that'll help a ton with 30+ terminal sessions... +> + +Yeah, too much data. The window list is what I use as it can show more +stuff. + +> +> You may find the "group" functionality of the current development +> sources to be handy; you can create a group window with +> +> C-a : screen -t my-group //group +> +> and then any windows you create from the group window, or from a window +> that's part of the group, will be a part of that group. When in a window +> that's part of a group, only other windows of that group will show up in +> the windowlist or hardstatus %w/%W escapes (you can get a full list by +> giving windowlist the -m option). +> +> You can also change the group a window is in with +> +> C-a : group my-group +> +> The feature's currently got some glitches (Killing a group window seems +> to freeze screen for me, but only sometimes). But it can be a useful +> organization tool. +> + +That sounds very cool. I have to try that. + +What would also be nice is if you could re-order the window list. ie: move +entries around so that you could group related shells together. + +-Bruce + +------=_Part_60789_20719481.1216144542230 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> wrote:
+-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+

+Bruce Edge wrote:
+> I have a lot of stuff in my screen sessions. 30+ terminal sessions on a
+> dozen or more machines.
+> I've tries a lot of things to make it more readable at a glance, but it
+> keeps coming back to wanting color to highlight sections of it.
+>
+> Does anyone know how to add color escape sequences to the windowlist view?
+>
+> I have RTFM'd and experimented a lot, but it just prints whatever escape
+> seq I put in it.
+
+
"Put in it"? How have you put anything in the windowlist view? The
+windowlist is not modifiable, to my knowledge.
+

OK, bad terminology. I'm setting the window's title.

So, to rephrase, are there any color escape sequences that can be used in the window title?
This would then show the same color for the title in the window list.
+
I wanted to change the color of the title for any windows that were running a command, ie: not at a shell prompt. This would make it easier to pick out what windows had running commands. Currently I change the window title to to  ">> command <<" to make them stand out a bit when they are running something. (using zsh preexec)
+
Another would be to change the title color then the last shell command returned a non-zero status. This would be like an alert for when a command failed.

Also, all my build/edit windows for a particular source branch would have the same color, etc...
+
 

+A common technique is to use the hardstatus to keep track of windows
+(see the bottom of the "String Escapes" section for a handy example of
+this). Not sure if that'll help a ton with 30+ terminal sessions...
+

Yeah, too much data. The window list is what I use as it can show more stuff.
+
+You may find the "group" functionality of the current development
+sources to be handy; you can create a group window with
+
+  C-a : screen -t my-group //group
+
+and then any windows you create from the group window, or from a window
+that's part of the group, will be a part of that group. When in a window
+that's part of a group, only other windows of that group will show up in
+the windowlist or hardstatus %w/%W escapes (you can get a full list by
+giving windowlist the -m option).
+
+You can also change the group a window is in with
+
+  C-a : group my-group
+
+The feature's currently got some glitches (Killing a group window seems
+to freeze screen for me, but only sometimes). But it can be a useful
+organization tool.
+

That sounds very cool. I have to try that.

What would also be nice is if you could re-order the window list. ie: move entries around so that you could group related shells together.
+

-Bruce
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I'm setting the window's title. +> +> So, to rephrase, are there any color escape sequences that can be used +> in the window title? +> This would then show the same color for the title in the window list. + +Not that I'm aware of :\ + +> I wanted to change the color of the title for any windows that were +> running a command, ie: not at a shell prompt. This would make it easier +> to pick out what windows had running commands. Currently I change the +> window title to to ">> command <<" to make them stand out a bit when +> they are running something. (using zsh preexec) +> +> Another would be to change the title color then the last shell command +> returned a non-zero status. This would be like an alert for when a +> command failed. +> +> Also, all my build/edit windows for a particular source branch would +> have the same color, etc... + +Sounds like groups might be handy for that. That's the sort of thing I'm +using them for lately (note, I myself just found out about groups this +week). + +> You may find the "group" functionality of the current development +> sources to be handy; you can create a group window with + +... + +> That sounds very cool. I have to try that. +> +> What would also be nice is if you could re-order the window list. ie: +> move entries around so that you could group related shells together. + +You can already do that with C-a : number . Also, Sadrul +just pushed a change that allows you to give _relative_ numeric changes, +so that C-a: number +1 can move a window from number 4 to number 5, etc. +If you bind number +1 and number -1 to appropriate keys, you could +probably find these to be useful as well. + +The numbers/ordering when you're using groups, though, appears kind of +funky to me. Though it seems that they're by-group; they could be +delineated/ordered better in that case, however. (I've just filed an +issue for that.) + +- -- +Micah J. 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I have solved the question -- or the +question suddenly disappeared :) + +My replies are between quotations below. + +Trent W. Buck demis ki:: +....... +> Note that the "type" builtin isn't portable, if you use .bash_profile +> you can instead just use +> +> case "$TERM" in +> screen*) printf %bk%s%b%b \\033 "${HOSTNAME%%.*}" \\033 \\0134;; +> esac +.... +>> Sometimes I logout of the connected machine and connect to another. +>> I don't want to set title each time I do this. If there is no +>> screen in the way, the following bash variable shows the hostname in +>> xterm title. PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${HOSTNAME}\007"' +> +> Oh, have a screen window with a shell, and you run "ssh fooserv" in +> the shell. I *think* my approach still works in that case. +> + +Yes, your approach is the proper solution to my problem, but another problem +with "vim" made me use xterm as screen's $TERM during my previous attempts. + +>> If I use this, and change %t->%h in hardstatus string, the hostname +>> shows in the "currently selected window only", but not the +>> others. As there is no equivalent of "-w" "+w" for xterm title(which +>> is an actual "hard" status), this path was blocked. +> +> I didn't understand any of that paragraph. + +This is not much important but, my screen's hardstatus was like this; +hardstatus lastline "%-Lw%{= BW}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%<" +Example: 0$* machineA 1-$ machineB 2$ machineC + +I was able to set the "xterm title" using "xterm hardstatus" escapes "in the +connected machine", while using TERM=xterm. +PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}\007"' + +I could display this "xterm hardstatus text" in "screen hardstatus", by using +"%h" in screen's hardstatus line. But, as you can see in my example ALL +connected machine names can be seen, thanks to %-w and %+w in screen's +hardstatus string. When "xterm hardstatus" is displayed using %h, there is no +%-h and %+h to display all machines "xterm hardstatus" info on the last line. + +If I couldn't made myself clear, feel free to ignore this as the problem is +solved now. + + +> +>> To ensure that only ssh sessions within a GNU screen get the "title +>> setter prompt command", environment variables are useful, I can use +>> the TERM variable, but in stable debian, the default TERM=screen +>> breaks vim editor, it goes crazy when you press home, or pageup +>> buttons. Using TERM=xterm fixes this, so I cannot check for TERM +>> being equal to "screen". +> +> Then you should fix vim, not train Screen to work with the wrong +> settings. Does vim work correctly (with TERM screen) if you tell it +> not to evaluate your .vimrc and such? If so, then the problem is with +> your .vimrc, not with vim itself. +> + +My previus tests showed that setting TERM from "screen" to "xterm" solved +problems with vim. Today, I intended to fix this issue once and for all, +strangely, vim worked without problems using TERM=screen. As a result I can +check TERM in servers and use screen specific escapes to set title. + +> +>> A solution that I imagined was to extend the "stuff" line; it does the ssh +>> connection, then puts the PROMPT_COMMAND to set GNU screen window title. +>> escaping this correctly was a chore, but I managed after some experimentation. +>> stuff "ssh hostname\015export PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\\033k\${HOSTNAME}\\033\\\\\"'\015" +> +> Instead of using :stuff, why not just set the title when you create +> the screen window, running ssh instead of the default shell? +> +> C-a :screen -t fooserv ssh fooserv +> + +With stuff in screenrc, I can logout from the initially connected machine and +that screen window does not close itself, just a convenience. Also, stuff can +be extended to "cd" into relevant directory, run a non-login shell, etc. + +Thanks again for the answer. + +-- +Gokdeniz Karadag + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:23:15 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA43A73DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:23:14 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59331 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTRv-0002FE-QB + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:23:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIqgO-0006YB-Rq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:59:32 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KIqgN-0006Xz-B2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:59:31 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60635 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KIqgN-0006Xw-4T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:59:31 -0400 +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([144.122.71.113]:44264) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KIqgM-00007G-K7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:59:30 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA179EF3C + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:27 +0300 (EEST) +X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cclub.metu.edu.tr +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id uHKHOoxpC4RO for ; + Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:24 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from [10.0.0.6] (unknown [81.214.147.84]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3AC167169 + for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:23 +0300 (EEST) +Message-ID: <487D019E.6070809@cclub.metu.edu.tr> +Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:26 +0300 +From: Gokdeniz Karadag +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; + rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080512 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> + <20080715085446.GR11259@krille.blacktrash.org> +In-Reply-To: <20080715085446.GR11259@krille.blacktrash.org> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:20:42 -0400 +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1518 +Lines: 45 + +Christian Ebert demis ki:: +> * Gokdeniz Karadag on Saturday, July 12, 2008 at 03:10:00 +0300 +>> Setting the following in all machines achieves what I want, it sets +>> screen title to hostname, +>> PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -n -e "\033k${HOSTNAME}\033\\"' +>> but when I connect to the machine out of screen, It prints the hostname +>> literally, so the prompt becomes like "hostname user@hostname $ " , which is +>> ugly and redundant. +>> +>> To ensure that only ssh sessions within a GNU screen get the "title setter +>> prompt command", environment variables are useful, I can use the TERM variable, +>> but in stable debian, the default TERM=screen breaks vim editor, it goes crazy +>> when you press home, or pageup buttons. Using TERM=xterm fixes this, so I +>> cannot check for TERM being equal to "screen". +> +> Does checking for $STY work for your purposes? +> +> if [ -n "$STY" ] +> +> fi +> +> c + +Hi, + +That works on the machine where screen is run, but my main use for screen is to +connect to many machines using ssh. + +An environment var. does not get passed to the target shell, if *both* SendEnv +in the client and AcceptEnv in the server is configured. + +When TERM is properly set to "screen", I can use it on the target server +without extra configuration as I wrote in my answer to Trent Buck. + +Thank you for the answer. + +-- +Gokdeniz Karadag + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:24:08 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF0973DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:24:07 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43355 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTSm-0002o0-Uy + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:24:04 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJ5WP-0008Sw-7Y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:50:13 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJ5WN-0008Sk-Ga + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:50:11 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57311 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJ5WN-0008Sh-B0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:50:11 -0400 +Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]:51387) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJ5WN-0001o7-Ln + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:50:11 -0400 +Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so3168527fkq.10 + for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:50:08 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.187.223.6 with SMTP id a6mr3251162far.45.1216209008043; + Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:50:08 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.2? 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If so, how can i unlock it? + + +If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? + +Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) +--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +alarm(0) = 0 +kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +alarm(15) = 0 +pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) +--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +alarm(0) = 0 +kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +alarm(15) = 0 +pause( + +Thanks +Pandu + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:34:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FAA73DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:34:17 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55620 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTcc-0006QE-AQ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:34:14 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTbE-0006AU-Kt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:32:48 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTbE-0006AB-1n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:32:48 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60633 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJTbD-0006A7-Tl + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:32:47 -0400 +Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]:45607) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJTbD-0005Dc-Dm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:32:47 -0400 +Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so466458qwf.24 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:32:46 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=I009m5oJ3P/Dz64q7P8mtrFfaeLlcpQgqulhTfSKXvI=; + b=v5ylBF2yjL3XGsTxN5ZtETRNhF3o6t8lTSgkWmXinqyF2TWEJfgo08nRrRz4455ywY + 35NQyCwnbCroe6dbPt7lxjOj5SFyGSWwZQxuEAIdhSVZXVK2GZnlMSaPo6Ynb6GIl2sP + lPsXUTNRY2sJUvUD0g7IkbkWC2ZAo/lgC+pFQ= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=XkYc74dqOdeOzoXAR4aPqt4rcqGssJQ3PgCYvSbUxrlG1wqSni0Gvx2Nnt2lmxEsNE + XrQma3oF1Tz7H1UeHJ/e9C29IYUhksS3wIc9F7/ykzKVBknJDSnfiIxIsJwsnM0iSUo0 + qjBNKEQ1b1SYt3Nw8o1yVBK0UVRGmSSjKusGw= +Received: by 10.150.92.12 with SMTP id p12mr429846ybb.236.1216301566083; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:32:46 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.150.190.6 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:32:46 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <283efb240807170632o5028925dj80990c5afb85b482@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:32:46 -0500 +From: "Samir Unni" +To: "Pandurangan R S" +In-Reply-To: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1863126342==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 5639 +Lines: 127 + +--===============1863126342== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_332_30378889.1216301566076" + +------=_Part_332_30378889.1216301566076 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hi, + +Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and wait +for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do would +be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try to +prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the +output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution. + +Thanks, + +Samir Unni + + +On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S +wrote: + +> Hi, +> +> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +> +> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +> screen and thinking it is frozen. +> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +> +> +> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +> +> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> restarted) +> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> alarm(0) = 0 +> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> alarm(15) = 0 +> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> restarted) +> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> alarm(0) = 0 +> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> alarm(15) = 0 +> pause( +> +> Thanks +> Pandu +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + +------=_Part_332_30378889.1216301566076 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Hi,

Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x <session name>' and wait for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do would be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try to prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution.
+
Thanks,

Samir Unni


On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> wrote:
+Hi,
+
+My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck.
+
+I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the
+screen and thinking it is frozen.
+Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it?
+
+
+If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints?
+
+Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit
+pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted)
+--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+alarm(0)                                = 0
+kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+alarm(15)                               = 0
+pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted)
+--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+alarm(0)                                = 0
+kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+alarm(15)                               = 0
+pause(
+
+Thanks
+Pandu
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+screen-users mailing list
+screen-users@gnu.org
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+ +------=_Part_332_30378889.1216301566076-- + + + +--===============1863126342== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1863126342==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:38:28 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0B773DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:38:28 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57513 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTgf-0007kh-3E + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:38:25 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTfA-0007ML-7N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:36:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTf8-0007Lh-MX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:36:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57861 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJTf8-0007Lb-HF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:36:50 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.232]:28514) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJTf8-0006kT-8J + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:36:50 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so4563838wra.14 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=e6ufUMEp8MH6kU/tY37WUIAWDh7C52HOkhZQKAMbBVE=; + b=J/GH5X6z3h51+m8fl/ZB9VcX++GnxWaybc+fW7GIr2j+HSRrDc6sx9NF5qg1vERhlj + hDOgBpSaD3jX8wO+R+oaL4pk0hSfhmz9ungnQva/5Z+o8GgMahWQuIrmZlEJOnM0EV+g + 6H+QvJg8VOWtepOT2WEIbHKyP36dQxDgobfTc= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=exio2pJn0V5zzGtR75ZpU+2XTrryS3wSTL9/P1+Ui+qc3YMkoO295tKbUUx7W5T7OR + aoDrNELeFut06bu2ovJYwShuvwGaLGAn9N3nFtIvaUclb4V8WLAPyfoCVRiU8OnUp3rY + ZMBbk8LjVt7Rx+5QNBNBkQ8+xmNeuHpsapgS4= +Received: by 10.90.78.10 with SMTP id a10mr3369826agb.108.1216301809286; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.119.12 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <5e744e3d0807170636tbc98ae0q86c7c3f9bc25a7e6@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:06:49 +0530 +From: "Pandurangan R S" +To: "Thomas Adam" +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0807170627i6d9319d8h7ba8a66247b090cc@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> + <18071eea0807170627i6d9319d8h7ba8a66247b090cc@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1186 +Lines: 38 + +Thanks. I am not having any backtick commands in hardstatus. + +My screenrc has +hardstatus string '%{= kc}[ %{C}%H %{c}]%{G}%= %{= +kw}%?%-Lw%?%{g}%{G}%n*%f%t%?%u%?%{g}%{w}%?%+Lw%?%?%= %{G}%{c}[%{C} +%d/%m %{C}%c %{c}]' + +Backticks are present only in the following line in my entire screenrc +(and this will not be a problem) +escape `` # Instead of Control-a, make the escape/command character be +` (backtick) + +I would also like to point out that I am able to start new screen +sessions on the same host without any issues. + +Thanks +Pandu + +On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: +> +> 2008/7/16 Pandurangan R S : +> > Hi, +> > +> > My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +> > +> > I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +> > screen and thinking it is frozen. +> > Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +> +> I don't suppose you've got some backtick commands in your hardstatus, have you? +> +> -- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:43:55 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1CE73DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52005 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTlw-0001XZ-D7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:52 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTlU-0001Wx-NR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTlR-0001Vm-U9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45398 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJTlR-0001VC-MS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:21 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.227]:22292) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJTlQ-000150-0Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:43:20 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so4565954wra.14 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=zxcgIJOmbXzk3GBIiVwlMCATct3IaBfJJbSnDexJIG4=; + b=GTrpN04L3VdJmdcAfHz19BZPrcI4H/xDy8BpYIa98iQ1oFNdGOKwWynnCCzLnT18h3 + c5GLOSwWyXmTHe29T9UpPv+Ve0qrCblLFT/SbGOkLasdn8tz0MB5CGDtgVNErXMfkSX2 + Jzr0RxBxIMNueAvQVPB3ty4euNMlruHp5WyqU= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=E1AS9LKgzkPmDPNj3pCq1X5u2eDbTA0hzr1XFNXS524IUgcKHfaGiyQQ2D2wRAPgRM + yTGc8wNs2bBQhgM+iA4P6XadKI4QbYNz1CssYLxsIX1MYGV4Y6GJ3Pon67+RKsnkz0qq + R+4yFFozm/pbjqfaCGBcHwsOzfL4NfVMKK4G8= +Received: by 10.90.84.2 with SMTP id h2mr3367320agb.119.1216302198115; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.119.12 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <5e744e3d0807170643ib7bd4b3v28491f60ddef8f73@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:13:18 +0530 +From: "Pandurangan R S" +To: "Samir Unni" +In-Reply-To: <283efb240807170632o5028925dj80990c5afb85b482@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807170632o5028925dj80990c5afb85b482@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2529 +Lines: 78 + +> Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and wait +> for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. + +I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the +screen, but that didn't happen :( + +> The best thing to do would +> be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. + +My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN. + +Thanks for the help. + +-- Pandu + +On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni wrote: +> Hi, +> +> Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and wait +> for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do would +> be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try to +> prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the +> output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution. +> +> Thanks, +> +> Samir Unni +> +> +> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S +> wrote: +>> +>> Hi, +>> +>> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +>> +>> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +>> screen and thinking it is frozen. +>> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +>> +>> +>> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +>> +>> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +>> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +>> restarted) +>> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +>> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +>> alarm(0) = 0 +>> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +>> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +>> alarm(15) = 0 +>> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +>> restarted) +>> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +>> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +>> alarm(0) = 0 +>> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +>> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +>> alarm(15) = 0 +>> pause( +>> +>> Thanks +>> Pandu +>> +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 09:46:27 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86973DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:46:26 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59705 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJToN-0002nv-N9 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:46:23 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTo2-0002n1-Tx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:46:02 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJTo1-0002mB-FL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:46:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34697 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJTo1-0002m5-6V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:46:01 -0400 +Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.182]:32731) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJTWD-00033q-3X + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:27:37 -0400 +Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n30so1223114elf.12 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:27:31 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=XE4ukB6avcTAb/4wNUWmLn9jTQA6QbdyHzxudQ1/kpo=; + b=PIECP70hCqRlQvcST4K9hpUq/C9uqOqF36Ln1GeZhUL9x+hWQYqfDVcD12DyYmRCmM + tmfmNIB8JwKo/+6osnJ4odmgC5iU4SrlWLTCzjvZoDJmcwwgK0cQc0z/eG210M1Ied3y + RbHX8GliNffEvMF7aWaQbP8yGErJWhBXwGHzU= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=bpchw+NdssjnEV7rakm0vXuBGlgbYfEGdNmNNmveY1L1rgBaJIcBMu3f2nLcdTLsZH + kdv+D1utBWGg72z02DW2VF/rAiEcvwZ7nTauC+adfRWMVA8iHsjiAU15VeCilxVQwLRR + 3pzvH/CiX7BCH4EgIc2CLqq+pUnEnorRiWoJ4= +Received: by 10.142.218.6 with SMTP id q6mr607360wfg.186.1216301250581; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:27:30 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.143.164.10 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:27:30 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0807170627i6d9319d8h7ba8a66247b090cc@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:27:30 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Pandurangan R S" +In-Reply-To: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 551 +Lines: 18 + +2008/7/16 Pandurangan R S : +> Hi, +> +> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +> +> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +> screen and thinking it is frozen. +> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? + +I don't suppose you've got some backtick commands in your hardstatus, have you? + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 17 12:40:55 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BA973DBF8 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:40:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40682 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJWXB-0005Sf-Sb + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; 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Do you ever actually +use the locking feature? If not, then maybe you could just change the +keybinding for that to something hard to type so you never accidentally +activate it? + +Thanks, + +Samir + + +On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Pandurangan R S +wrote: + +> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +> wait +> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. +> +> I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the +> screen, but that didn't happen :( +> +> > The best thing to do would +> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. +> +> My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN. +> +> Thanks for the help. +> +> -- Pandu +> +> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni wrote: +> > Hi, +> > +> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +> wait +> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do +> would +> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try +> to +> > prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the +> > output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution. +> > +> > Thanks, +> > +> > Samir Unni +> > +> > +> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S < +> pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> +> > wrote: +> >> +> >> Hi, +> >> +> >> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +> >> +> >> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +> >> screen and thinking it is frozen. +> >> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +> >> +> >> +> >> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +> >> +> >> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> >> restarted) +> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> >> alarm(0) = 0 +> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> >> alarm(15) = 0 +> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> >> restarted) +> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> >> alarm(0) = 0 +> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> >> alarm(15) = 0 +> >> pause( +> >> +> >> Thanks +> >> Pandu +> >> +> >> +> >> _______________________________________________ +> >> screen-users mailing list +> >> screen-users@gnu.org +> >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> > +> > +> + +------=_Part_2633_32641254.1216323270272 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Hi,

It seems that you are having a different problem then. Do you ever actually use the locking feature? If not, then maybe you could just change the keybinding for that to something hard to type so you never accidentally activate it?
+
Thanks,

Samir


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Pandurangan R S <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> wrote:
+
> Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x <session name>' and wait
+> for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect.
+
+
I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the
+screen, but that didn't happen :(
+

+> The best thing to do would
+> be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection.
+
+
My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN.
+
+Thanks for the help.
+
+-- Pandu
+

+On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+> Hi,
+>
+> Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x <session name>' and wait
+> for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do would
+> be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try to
+> prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the
+> output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution.
+>
+> Thanks,
+>
+> Samir Unni
+>
+>
+> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+>>
+>> Hi,
+>>
+>> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck.
+>>
+>> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the
+>> screen and thinking it is frozen.
+>> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it?
+>>
+>>
+>> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints?
+>>
+>> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit
+>> pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be
+>> restarted)
+>> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+>> sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+>> alarm(0)                                = 0
+>> kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+>> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+>> alarm(15)                               = 0
+>> pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be
+>> restarted)
+>> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+>> sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+>> alarm(0)                                = 0
+>> kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+>> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+>> alarm(15)                               = 0
+>> pause(
+>>
+>> Thanks
+>> Pandu
+>>
+>>
+>> _______________________________________________
+>> screen-users mailing list
+>> screen-users@gnu.org
+>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users
+>
+>
+

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If so, how can i unlock it? + + +> +> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +> +> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) +> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> alarm(0) = 0 +> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> alarm(15) = 0 + +Process id 6866 is your screen master process. +Please show a trace of this one. + + cheers, + Jw. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 18 00:00:46 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E808D33 + for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48472 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJh99-0006xb-G2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:43 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJh8h-0006wt-La + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:15 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJh8f-0006vW-Gf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:15 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58859 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJh8f-0006vJ-A0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:13 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]:26743) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJh8e-0007bv-S8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:00:13 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so142348wra.14 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=fDEHbCOPsNxm0cpEJbAk10fEhqRmSaxcoSaoS+k5qoQ=; + b=CeKQKcT9NKn7J2jZfaZVceor/DWo15kzvRso7fDySiaLDhFUXFyJ42MoV2fuloXGkV + eBD/pKMBOZZ0t1TXDAy7TfzG0A9BlvoIN0yYrVRMf6BkQcT7HhrIXxbqcT3dY14v4Iuh + ie5Hrya2Otc+7sXLBeCAKjmCxBXoDgTEUKmy4= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=jYivfLnCSf9viOINsX/Zr2DcrbdROkTXTsC540zQKzLXIHXQdM+Y+rvztU6Z5QwxZg + uc4s13L6wmCydGD2igpSniDzqFSun9BnsN2MeMbvo+45COCcfyoOv4+m+jzHgEGVhz0Y + 4EiD9zwKgapiY+zzYluUrZe0IJG4j0IIIj8Dg= +Received: by 10.90.72.3 with SMTP id u3mr1748921aga.103.1216353612065; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.119.12 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:00:11 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <5e744e3d0807172100o21e27f84u1cb9f6a01b025890@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:30:11 +0530 +From: "Pandurangan R S" +To: "Samir Unni" +In-Reply-To: <283efb240807171234t706b6e48h844bd40d02e9e866@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807170632o5028925dj80990c5afb85b482@mail.gmail.com> + <5e744e3d0807170643ib7bd4b3v28491f60ddef8f73@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807171234t706b6e48h844bd40d02e9e866@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3302 +Lines: 107 + +No. I never use the locking feature. How can i disable the +corresponding keybinding? + +Thanks +Pandu + +On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Samir Unni wrote: +> Hi, +> +> It seems that you are having a different problem then. Do you ever actually +> use the locking feature? If not, then maybe you could just change the +> keybinding for that to something hard to type so you never accidentally +> activate it? +> +> Thanks, +> +> Samir +> +> +> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Pandurangan R S +> wrote: +>> +>> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +>> > wait +>> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. +>> +>> I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the +>> screen, but that didn't happen :( +>> +>> > The best thing to do would +>> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. +>> +>> My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN. +>> +>> Thanks for the help. +>> +>> -- Pandu +>> +>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni wrote: +>> > Hi, +>> > +>> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +>> > wait +>> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do +>> > would +>> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try +>> > to +>> > prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the +>> > output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution. +>> > +>> > Thanks, +>> > +>> > Samir Unni +>> > +>> > +>> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S +>> > +>> > wrote: +>> >> +>> >> Hi, +>> >> +>> >> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +>> >> +>> >> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +>> >> screen and thinking it is frozen. +>> >> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +>> >> +>> >> +>> >> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +>> >> +>> >> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +>> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +>> >> restarted) +>> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +>> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +>> >> alarm(0) = 0 +>> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +>> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +>> >> alarm(15) = 0 +>> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +>> >> restarted) +>> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +>> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +>> >> alarm(0) = 0 +>> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +>> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +>> >> alarm(15) = 0 +>> >> pause( +>> >> +>> >> Thanks +>> >> Pandu +>> >> +>> >> +>> >> _______________________________________________ +>> >> screen-users mailing list +>> >> screen-users@gnu.org +>> >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>> > +>> > +> +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 18 00:03:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147CE8D33 + for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49021 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJhC2-0000RE-9m + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:42 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJhBj-0000R6-8c + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:23 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJhBh-0000Ql-93 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58963 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJhBh-0000Qi-53 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:21 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.234]:28714) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJhBg-0008Nd-OC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:03:20 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so143181wra.14 + for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:03:20 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=fOsxd+O9Xgj6LFHUQcNtq3zjClXtSWD7lnN81Xj+KNU=; + b=jjWwmVQiwbenWUM3VgF9DMeV96UUJA6PiaxAA6V0CzrusQYNnImzBxvEhTHfobCNuw + SZHvn972KWdIpzcfyH/nS+cXlhGrJAs+/ipkk50dBQIpjctF+8IkmEQKzlHmRliWEIN/ + JrSP87lM5Egxbll1nT26Fzfh5WqSCbnd4hC00= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=TmCBP4kzwT+STNO4c0JeRPl+8bKzeNPEU2yr3SzmKtm1MUpYv2k4CYway78c83TX7B + pUQyZX+KaISiS5qt19X+j/Ax45BdRQ4eG3fhkWklUEwpR3Lmdk2GHdZYYzhx/IEKmqCt + R72sQjjQuWy0VgSHLhGajo8GQXHLH3VVavcyI= +Received: by 10.90.27.5 with SMTP id a5mr4101423aga.85.1216353800143; + Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:03:20 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.119.12 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:03:20 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <5e744e3d0807172103s6eff4cf7n4f8b8809b0e427a7@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:33:20 +0530 +From: "Pandurangan R S" +To: jw@cs.fau.de +In-Reply-To: <20080717215236.GX23749@faui40p> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> + <20080717215236.GX23749@faui40p> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1672 +Lines: 49 + +Unfortunately, I had killed the screen process accidentally. So I +cannot provide the strace now :( + +I will post the related straces if get into the same trouble again. +Thanks for your help. + +-- Pandu + +On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Juergen Weigert wrote: +> On Jul 16, 08 18:59:04 +0530, Pandurangan R S wrote: +>> Hi, +>> +>> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck. +>> +>> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +>> screen and thinking it is frozen. +>> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +> +> +>> +>> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +>> +>> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +>> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be restarted) +>> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +>> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +>> alarm(0) = 0 +>> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +>> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +>> alarm(15) = 0 +> +> Process id 6866 is your screen master process. +> Please show a trace of this one. +> +> cheers, +> Jw. +> +> -- +> o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ +> | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ +> \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +> (/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 21 08:56:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7F81E7A95 + for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38190 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KKuwS-0003WS-Fn + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KKuw0-0003WC-Vy + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:13 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KKuvy-0003Uf-MH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:12 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38909 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KKuvy-0003UX-HY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:10 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.242]:12124) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KKuvw-0001xj-Pm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:56:10 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1275381rvb.6 + for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=GJSvYw0zSuS+5ZtixB2CmsWVAA12YVsrOzta5pUI+wk=; + b=I63fo7xJj6jtBLh/u8nF1Nu+LQm21EQ/9r2mTxylJuxM2bAM9nqyxChlH/59Ljr2gm + mDs93VdumrHYyS8PPOIWc+QijhAGAflarcLfNmkJ4OL4P042HkCREKVD0BXHeWgSEsP3 + tssVvJTFtuh9VeMOzS83+5tJQK3cmAPvLRzyQ= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=MF4e8X5CRv4WnU3aB+SHSMAJy5TsaEl5RYMCqc3DOj+epKgh3y7UxAIGEt5j6LiAqw + g9sC+qfendUUoTLNDe9PeYUMjL5heOt8u19170DvnjCbXhlUJImYEuz25vcqHvMVNcx+ + IYoflTbIsx31YlLTRVGdOVfrgEvJp9FSAhAgU= +Received: by 10.141.83.15 with SMTP id k15mr1821814rvl.289.1216644962779; + Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.141.205.6 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <283efb240807210556u3d70e1e2jfa64460d4ac0dc61@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:56:02 -0500 +From: "Samir Unni" +To: "Pandurangan R S" +In-Reply-To: <5e744e3d0807172100o21e27f84u1cb9f6a01b025890@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <5e744e3d0807160629t2d695644g998f4c1b18cd3d27@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807170632o5028925dj80990c5afb85b482@mail.gmail.com> + <5e744e3d0807170643ib7bd4b3v28491f60ddef8f73@mail.gmail.com> + <283efb240807171234t706b6e48h844bd40d02e9e866@mail.gmail.com> + <5e744e3d0807172100o21e27f84u1cb9f6a01b025890@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Frozen or locked screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0475659757==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 10730 +Lines: 259 + +--===============0475659757== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_19949_18856213.1216644962777" + +------=_Part_19949_18856213.1216644962777 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hi, + +Sorry, but I don't know how to do that. I do know that the general syntax is +'bind ', which you would place in your .screenrc file. I'm not +sure what the key is for locking, or what the syntax for locking would be. +Perhaps someone else can help out? + +Thanks, + +Samir + + +On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Pandurangan R S +wrote: + +> No. I never use the locking feature. How can i disable the +> corresponding keybinding? +> +> Thanks +> Pandu +> +> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Samir Unni wrote: +> > Hi, +> > +> > It seems that you are having a different problem then. Do you ever +> actually +> > use the locking feature? If not, then maybe you could just change the +> > keybinding for that to something hard to type so you never accidentally +> > activate it? +> > +> > Thanks, +> > +> > Samir +> > +> > +> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Pandurangan R S < +> pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> +> > wrote: +> >> +> >> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +> >> > wait +> >> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. +> >> +> >> I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the +> >> screen, but that didn't happen :( +> >> +> >> > The best thing to do would +> >> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. +> >> +> >> My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN. +> >> +> >> Thanks for the help. +> >> +> >> -- Pandu +> >> +> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni wrote: +> >> > Hi, +> >> > +> >> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x ' and +> >> > wait +> >> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do +> >> > would +> >> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I +> try +> >> > to +> >> > prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter +> the +> >> > output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution. +> >> > +> >> > Thanks, +> >> > +> >> > Samir Unni +> >> > +> >> > +> >> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S +> >> > +> >> > wrote: +> >> >> +> >> >> Hi, +> >> >> +> >> >> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets +> stuck. +> >> >> +> >> >> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the +> >> >> screen and thinking it is frozen. +> >> >> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it? +> >> >> +> >> >> +> >> >> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints? +> >> >> +> >> >> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit +> >> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> >> >> restarted) +> >> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> >> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> >> >> alarm(0) = 0 +> >> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> >> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> >> >> alarm(15) = 0 +> >> >> pause() = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be +> >> >> restarted) +> >> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) --- +> >> >> sigreturn() = ? (mask now []) +> >> >> alarm(0) = 0 +> >> >> kill(6866, SIG_0) = 0 +> >> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0 +> >> >> alarm(15) = 0 +> >> >> pause( +> >> >> +> >> >> Thanks +> >> >> Pandu +> >> >> +> >> >> +> >> >> _______________________________________________ +> >> >> screen-users mailing list +> >> >> screen-users@gnu.org +> >> >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> >> > +> >> > +> > +> > +> + +------=_Part_19949_18856213.1216644962777 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Hi,

Sorry, but I don't know how to do that. I do know that the general syntax is 'bind <key> <action>', which you would place in your .screenrc file. I'm not sure what the key is for locking, or what the syntax for locking would be. Perhaps someone else can help out?
+
Thanks,

Samir


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Pandurangan R S <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> wrote:
+No. I never use the locking feature. How can i disable the
+corresponding keybinding?
+
+Thanks
+Pandu
+

+On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+> Hi,
+>
+> It seems that you are having a different problem then. Do you ever actually
+> use the locking feature? If not, then maybe you could just change the
+> keybinding for that to something hard to type so you never accidentally
+> activate it?
+>
+> Thanks,
+>
+> Samir
+>
+>
+> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Pandurangan R S <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+>>
+>> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x <session name>' and
+>> > wait
+>> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect.
+>>
+>> I waited for around 30 mins hoping that i will get attached to the
+>> screen, but that didn't happen :(
+>>
+>> > The best thing to do would
+>> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection.
+>>
+>> My desktop and the host on which i run screen are within a LAN.
+>>
+>> Thanks for the help.
+>>
+>> -- Pandu
+>>
+>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Samir Unni <srunni@gmail.com> wrote:
+>> > Hi,
+>> >
+>> > Whenever this happens to me, I just run 'screen -x <session name>' and
+>> > wait
+>> > for 10-15 minutes for it to successfully connect. The best thing to do
+>> > would
+>> > be to avoid sending too much data over a low bandwidth connection. I try
+>> > to
+>> > prevent this as often as possible, but sometimes I forget to filter the
+>> > output or something. I don't know of any permanent solution.
+>> >
+>> > Thanks,
+>> >
+>> > Samir Unni
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Pandurangan R S
+>> > <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com>
+>> > wrote:
+>> >>
+>> >> Hi,
+>> >>
+>> >> My screen looks to be frozen. screen -x (or screen -d) also gets stuck.
+>> >>
+>> >> I recently saw a thread which talks about accidentally locking the
+>> >> screen and thinking it is frozen.
+>> >> Is the case with my screen now? If so, how can i unlock it?
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> If I strace the screen process, I observe the following. Any hints?
+>> >>
+>> >> Process 15342 attached - interrupt to quit
+>> >> pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be
+>> >> restarted)
+>> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+>> >> sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+>> >> alarm(0)                                = 0
+>> >> kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+>> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+>> >> alarm(15)                               = 0
+>> >> pause()                                 = ? ERESTARTNOHAND (To be
+>> >> restarted)
+>> >> --- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) @ 0 (0) ---
+>> >> sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
+>> >> alarm(0)                                = 0
+>> >> kill(6866, SIG_0)                       = 0
+>> >> rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {0x806a540, [], 0}, {0x806a540, [], 0}, 8) = 0
+>> >> alarm(15)                               = 0
+>> >> pause(
+>> >>
+>> >> Thanks
+>> >> Pandu
+>> >>
+>> >>
+>> >> _______________________________________________
+>> >> screen-users mailing list
+>> >> screen-users@gnu.org
+>> >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users
+>> >
+>> >
+>
+>
+

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I basically +want to write a script, like: + +new-screen-window ls +new-screen-window du / +new-screen-window my-script + +Where the new-screen-window utility opens new screen windows without +jumping to them. 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I basicall= +y +> want to write a script, like: +>=20 +> new-screen-window ls +> new-screen-window du / +> new-screen-window my-script +>=20 +> Where the new-screen-window utility opens new screen windows without +> jumping to them. I'd also like to specify the title of the individual +> windows. +>=20 +>=20 +>=20 +> -----------------------------------------------------------------------= +- +>=20 +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 09:48:38 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8CEB4D2 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:48:38 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40110 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLehm-0004cU-K8 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:48:34 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJydM-0005rW-8V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:04 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KJydL-0005rK-R4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:03 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48286 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KJydL-0005rH-LV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:03 -0400 +Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.157]:7079) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KJydL-0003JT-3A + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:03 -0400 +Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so156555ywk.66 + for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type; + bh=AU4sTbnKjly2FpKQm53g+b9F9tOkk3udvuG65v6BBMY=; + b=VlFl+0OUYYYFFeu1Rt55i8UtA9hk06wagicIifOifIhwdIc+oXMsK0CeYgfC7g26Kz + tV811hjWa7XlOh2+S2pIY/UTWTLDYBF8z7EoytgqhDUr3e9vC91RccNrW9nOniafb0ud + aHFfJzUP24PSDmFQCeug592F8UI6hh/AqSzEg= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; + b=pth49LBOoSgzLfdS/FH6cMskzUUeMBKepmONo0AzAhO+dB0HGordufe2iH6HLhAWbg + WelLKmGKIrgA6HDyh3fSi0pVlM8AwlC14WARgFe54JZNtlqmEEsJ4oHQzRbsXUAXlSTl + PQ3Z/xRT73UD6G6+j0Q523/q2ieoBMng5KASE= +Received: by 10.150.227.14 with SMTP id z14mr705335ybg.145.1216420862051; + Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.150.122.18 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:41:01 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <38d8db240807181541k386c6eebn15531c2895735728@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:41:01 +0300 +From: "roi h" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:48:15 -0400 +Subject: Opening a window in the background? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0111921225==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1308 +Lines: 43 + +--===============0111921225== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_13356_27945338.1216420862051" + +------=_Part_13356_27945338.1216420862051 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hi, + +Is there a way to open a new window without switching to it? + +I often would like to start a command in a background window, and only +switch to it later, but I haven't found anything in the manual about it. + +Thanks, Roi + +------=_Part_13356_27945338.1216420862051 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Hi,

Is there a way to open a new window without switching to it?

I often would like to start a command in a background window, and only switch to it later, but I haven't found anything in the manual about it.
+
Thanks, Roi



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I imagine that +you could use it to script screen for what you want with: open window, +execute prog, select prev window. + +You can execute it with C-a : then type exec screen-utils + +It is on the internet somewhere, and possibly on the mailing list too, +but I am not too sure where it was a while ago I looked for it. + +David + +------=_Part_60101_12500352.1216822354903 +Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=screen-utils +Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 +X-Attachment-Id: file0 +Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=screen-utils + +IyEvYmluL2Jhc2gKCiMgVGhpcyBzY3JpcHQgaXMgaW50ZW5kZWQgdG8gYmUgcnVuIHdpdGhpbiBh +IHNjcmVlbiBzZXNzaW9uCgoKCiMgRmluZCB0aGUgUFdEIG9mIHRoZSB3aW5kb3cgcHJvY2Vzcywg +ZnJvbSB3aGljaCB0aGlzIHNjcmlwdCBpcyBjYWxsZWQKZnVuY3Rpb24gZ2V0U2FtZURpciAoKSB7 +CgogICBsb2NhbCBXSU5OQiBwaWQgCgogICAjIGZpbmQgdGhlIGN1cnJlbnQgd2luZG93IHByb2Nl +c3MgcGlkCiAgIHdoaWxlIHJlYWQgcGlkOyBkbwoKICAgICAgW1sgJCQgPT0gJHBpZCBdXSAmJiBj +b250aW51ZQogICAgICBXSU5OQj0kKHRyICdcMDAwJyAnXG4nIDwvcHJvYy8ke3BpZH0vZW52aXJv +biB8IFwKCSAgc2VkIC1uICcvXldJTkRPVz0vcy8vL3AnIDI+L2Rldi9udWxsKQoKICAgICAgW1sg +LXogIiR7V0lOTkJ9IiBdXSAmJiBjb250aW51ZQogICAgICBbWyAke1dJTkRPV30gLWVxICR7V0lO +TkJ9IF1dICYmIGJyZWFrCgogICBkb25lIDwgPChwcyAtLXBwaWQgJHtQUElEfSAtLW5vaGVhZGVy +IC1vICVwIHwgc2VkICdzL15bWzpzcGFjZTpdXSovLycpCgoKICAgIyBjaGVjayBpZiB3ZSByZWFs +bHkgZm91bmQgc29tZXRoaW5nLCBvciBpZiAKICAgIyB3ZSd2ZSBqdXN0IHJlYWNoZWQgdGhlIGVu +ZCBvZiB0aGUgbG9vcAogICBbWyAke1dJTkRPV30gLWVxICR7V0lOTkJ9IF1dIHx8IGV4aXQgMgoK +ICAgZWNobyAkKHJlYWRsaW5rIC9wcm9jLyR7cGlkfS9jd2QpCgoKIyAgICAgbG9jYWwgd2lubmIK +CiMgICAgIHdpbm5iPSQoY2F0ICRIT01FLy5zY3JlZW4vd2luLiRXSU5ET1cucHdkKQoKIyAgICAg +aWYgW1sgLW4gJHdpbm5iIF1dOyB0aGVuCiMgCWVjaG8gJHdpbm5iCiMgICAgIGVsc2UKIyAJZWNo +byAkSE9NRQojICAgICBmaQp9CgoKCiMgT3BlbihpbiB0aGUgYmFja2dyb3VuZD8pIGEgbmV3IHdp +bmRvdyBpbiB0aGUgc2FtZQojIGRpciBhcyB0aGUgKGxvY2FsKSBwcm9jZXNzIG9uIHRoZSBjdXJy +ZW50IHdpbmRvdwpmdW5jdGlvbiBuZXdXaW5kb3cgKCkgewoKICAgbG9jYWwgZGlyPSIkKGdldFNh +bWVEaXIpIgoKICAgIyBzY3JlZW4gLVggZXZhbCBzY3JlZW4gInN0dWZmICdjZCBcIiRESVJcIl5N +XkwnIiBvdGhlcgogICBzY3JlZW4gLVggZXZhbCBzY3JlZW4gInN0dWZmICdjZCBcIiRkaXJcIiAN +DCciCn0KCgogICAgICAKCiMgaWYgV0lORE9XIGlzIG5vdCBzZXQsIG5vIG5lZWQgdG8gZ28gZnVy +dGhlciwKIyB3ZSdyZSBub3QgaW4gYSBzY3JlZW4gc2Vzc2lvbgpbWyAgLXogJHtXSU5ET1d9IF1d +ICYmIGV4aXQgMQoKCgojY2FzZSAiJHsxfSIgaW4KY2FzZSAibnciIGluCgogICBudykKICAgICAg +bmV3V2luZG93CiAgICAgIDs7Cgplc2FjCg== +------=_Part_60101_12500352.1216822354903 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +------=_Part_60101_12500352.1216822354903-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 17:36:59 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D4C1E7A95 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:59 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56701 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm12-0003w7-C6 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:56 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm0j-0003w0-8E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:37 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm0h-0003vl-MH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:35 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48053 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLm0h-0003vi-Es + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:35 -0400 +Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.156]:44818) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KLm0g-0004cX-Pr + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:35 -0400 +Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1257688fgb.30 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:36:31 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.86.4.2 with SMTP id 2mr150400fgd.38.1216848991710; + Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:36:31 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [84.0.34.71]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm10599960fgg.9.2008.07.23.14.36.30 + (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) +From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3?= Monda +To: davidcollins001@gmail.com +In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140807220110g29a73cd9h75e605c502cc028d@mail.gmail.com> +References: <1216209006.20329.2.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> + + <1216686035.2923.17.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> + <1b30fd140807220110g29a73cd9h75e605c502cc028d@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:36:29 +0200 +Message-Id: <1216848989.2923.57.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users +Subject: Re: Spawning commands inside interactive shells in new windows in + a scriptable fashion +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1233530857==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2687 +Lines: 96 + + +--===============1233530857== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-EB8D5Ua/Ba4iMMOPBm2A" + + +--=-EB8D5Ua/Ba4iMMOPBm2A +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hi David, + +(David has allowed me to reply to his email publicly.) + +I think this is almost exactly what I need, but "^M" gets literally +quoted for me, just like as "\^M" or "\015". + +How can I put new line characters in there? + +Thanks! + +On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 09:10 +0100, davidcollins001@gmail.com wrote: +> I don't know if this will help you but I have a small script that will +> start up folding at home in a running screen session. Here is the +> basis of it +>=20 +> $ cat screen.scpt +> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t1 +> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'cd /^M' +> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'ls ^M' +> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t2 +> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'cd programming^M' +> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'file *^M' +>=20 +> It will open a new screen called 't1', select it, cd to / and ls it, +> then another called 't2' move into my programming folder and do a +> 'file' on the content. +>=20 +> It seems like this might be the basis for what you need? +>=20 +> On 22/07/2008, L=E1szl=F3 Monda wrote: +> > On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 12:40 -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: +> >> looks like you might want to use "stuff" to push the commands at a +> >> normal screen that has a shell open (so that it runs them, and stays +> >> interactive.) +> > +> > I don't think that "stuff" is capable of what I want to do. I basicall= +y +> > want to write a script, like: +> > +> > new-screen-window ls +> > new-screen-window du / +> > new-screen-window my-script +> > +> > Where the new-screen-window utility opens new screen windows without +> > jumping to them. I'd also like to specify the title of the individual +> > windows. +> > +> > -- +> > Laci +> > +> > +--=20 +Laci + + +--=-EB8D5Ua/Ba4iMMOPBm2A +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc +Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) + +iD8DBQBIh6Rd5t2qLX5n7ZgRAvM6AKDrIUp5887u3eiCT1/jhQCf2XikaACg5cLx +yHji/ExJTyBFbob+J/cFwEw= +=u3oS +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--=-EB8D5Ua/Ba4iMMOPBm2A-- + + + + +--===============1233530857== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1233530857==-- + + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 17:44:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1871B1E7A95 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53342 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm8a-0000kZ-W5 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:45 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm8G-0000ie-Sj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLm8E-0000hK-C0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33495 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLm8E-0000hH-19 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:22 -0400 +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([144.122.71.113]:54367) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KLm8D-0005iH-Gd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:21 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08B252D2D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:44:18 +0300 (EEST) +X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cclub.metu.edu.tr +Received: from tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id ykvq-BgytMqv for ; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:44:10 +0300 (EEST) +Received: from [10.0.0.6] (unknown [88.232.10.96]) + by tapir.cclub.metu.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E5A40839 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:44:10 +0300 (EEST) +Message-ID: <4887A629.5030505@gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:44:09 +0300 +From: Gokdeniz Karadag +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; + rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080512 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users +References: <1216209006.20329.2.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> <1216686035.2923.17.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> <1b30fd140807220110g29a73cd9h75e605c502cc028d@mail.gmail.com> + <1216848989.2923.57.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> +In-Reply-To: <1216848989.2923.57.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Spawning commands inside interactive shells in new windows in + a scriptable fashion +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2481 +Lines: 82 + +In a console based text editor( I use vim) you can press on following thr= +ee keys; +ctrl v enter + +This will embed a literal newline into the file, tested with the given sc= +ript.=20 +I'm not sure about embedding newlines with GUI editors. + +By the way, David's suggestion was very helpful, I realized I did not kno= +w=20 +about -p + +:) + + +L=E1szl=F3 Monda demis ki:: +> Hi David, +>=20 +> (David has allowed me to reply to his email publicly.) +>=20 +> I think this is almost exactly what I need, but "^M" gets literally +> quoted for me, just like as "\^M" or "\015". +>=20 +> How can I put new line characters in there? +>=20 +> Thanks! +>=20 +> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 09:10 +0100, davidcollins001@gmail.com wrote: +>> I don't know if this will help you but I have a small script that will +>> start up folding at home in a running screen session. Here is the +>> basis of it +>> +>> $ cat screen.scpt +>> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t1 +>> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'cd /^M' +>> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'ls ^M' +>> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t2 +>> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'cd programming^M' +>> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'file *^M' +>> +>> It will open a new screen called 't1', select it, cd to / and ls it, +>> then another called 't2' move into my programming folder and do a +>> 'file' on the content. +>> +>> It seems like this might be the basis for what you need? +>> +>> On 22/07/2008, L=E1szl=F3 Monda wrote: +>>> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 12:40 -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: +>>>> looks like you might want to use "stuff" to push the commands at a +>>>> normal screen that has a shell open (so that it runs them, and stays +>>>> interactive.) +>>> I don't think that "stuff" is capable of what I want to do. I basica= +lly +>>> want to write a script, like: +>>> +>>> new-screen-window ls +>>> new-screen-window du / +>>> new-screen-window my-script +>>> +>>> Where the new-screen-window utility opens new screen windows without +>>> jumping to them. I'd also like to specify the title of the individua= +l +>>> windows. +>>> +>>> -- +>>> Laci +>>> +>>> +>>> +>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= +--- +>>> +>>> _______________________________________________ +>>> screen-users mailing list +>>> screen-users@gnu.org +>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 19:12:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09CF1E7A95 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57940 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLnVm-0003ZH-Oz + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLnVC-0003Tf-VD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:10 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KLnVB-0003Sz-AE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:10 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58515 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLnVA-0003Su-UP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:09 -0400 +Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:3015) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KLnVA-0002Cm-Gc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:08 -0400 +Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1276164fgb.30 + for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.86.4.14 with SMTP id 14mr245867fgd.20.1216854726531; + Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [84.0.34.71]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm6737762fgb.6.2008.07.23.16.12.05 + (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:12:05 -0700 (PDT) +From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E1szl=F3?= Monda +To: Gokdeniz Karadag , + davidcollins001 +In-Reply-To: <4887A629.5030505@gmail.com> +References: <1216209006.20329.2.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> + + <1216686035.2923.17.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> + <1b30fd140807220110g29a73cd9h75e605c502cc028d@mail.gmail.com> + <1216848989.2923.57.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> + <4887A629.5030505@gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:12:04 +0200 +Message-Id: <1216854724.2923.74.camel@whisper.dnsalias.net> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users +Subject: Re: Spawning commands inside interactive shells in new windows in + a scriptable fashion +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1808730701==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4892 +Lines: 160 + + +--===============1808730701== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-rs/E7RVL3Il+cZx9/8w7" + + +--=-rs/E7RVL3Il+cZx9/8w7 +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-QBj9lBQRIvLPmUIvWzuU" + + +--=-QBj9lBQRIvLPmUIvWzuU +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Seems like I'm just ready with new-screen-window which I've just +attached. + +=46rom now on we can easily do things, like: +new-screen-window new-window-title 'du -h /' + +Thanks for David for kicking ass with his way of doing this and for +Gokdeniz for explaining me the newline issue. + +Possible improvements that are encouraged by me, since I suck at bash: + +* Make specifying the window title optional by using a -t option. +* Jump back to the original window where new-screen-window ran. +* Provide a -j option for jumping to the new window. +* Interpret the rest of the command line as $command without quoting. + +On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 00:44 +0300, Gokdeniz Karadag wrote: +> In a console based text editor( I use vim) you can press on following thr= +ee keys; +> ctrl v enter +>=20 +> This will embed a literal newline into the file, tested with the given sc= +ript.=20 +> I'm not sure about embedding newlines with GUI editors. +>=20 +> By the way, David's suggestion was very helpful, I realized I did not kno= +w=20 +> about -p +>=20 +> :) +>=20 +>=20 +> L=E1szl=F3 Monda demis ki:: +> > Hi David, +> >=20 +> > (David has allowed me to reply to his email publicly.) +> >=20 +> > I think this is almost exactly what I need, but "^M" gets literally +> > quoted for me, just like as "\^M" or "\015". +> >=20 +> > How can I put new line characters in there? +> >=20 +> > Thanks! +> >=20 +> > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 09:10 +0100, davidcollins001@gmail.com wrote: +> >> I don't know if this will help you but I have a small script that will +> >> start up folding at home in a running screen session. Here is the +> >> basis of it +> >> +> >> $ cat screen.scpt +> >> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t1 +> >> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'cd /^M' +> >> screen -S desktop4 -p t1 -X stuff 'ls ^M' +> >> screen -S desktop4 -X screen -t t2 +> >> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'cd programming^M' +> >> screen -S desktop4 -p t2 -X stuff 'file *^M' +> >> +> >> It will open a new screen called 't1', select it, cd to / and ls it, +> >> then another called 't2' move into my programming folder and do a +> >> 'file' on the content. +> >> +> >> It seems like this might be the basis for what you need? +> >> +> >> On 22/07/2008, L=E1szl=F3 Monda wrote: +> >>> On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 12:40 -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: +> >>>> looks like you might want to use "stuff" to push the commands at a +> >>>> normal screen that has a shell open (so that it runs them, and stays +> >>>> interactive.) +> >>> I don't think that "stuff" is capable of what I want to do. I basica= +lly +> >>> want to write a script, like: +> >>> +> >>> new-screen-window ls +> >>> new-screen-window du / +> >>> new-screen-window my-script +> >>> +> >>> Where the new-screen-window utility opens new screen windows without +> >>> jumping to them. I'd also like to specify the title of the individua= +l +> >>> windows. +> >>> +> >>> -- +> >>> Laci +> >>> +> >>> +> >>> +> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= +--- +> >>> +> >>> _______________________________________________ +> >>> screen-users mailing list +> >>> screen-users@gnu.org +> >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>=20 +>=20 +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +--=20 +Laci + + +--=-QBj9lBQRIvLPmUIvWzuU +Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=new-screen-window +Content-Type: application/x-shellscript; name=new-screen-window +Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 + +IyEvYmluL2Jhc2gKCmlmIFtbICIkIyIgLW5lICIyIiBdXTsgdGhlbgogICAgZWNobyAiVXNhZ2U6 +IG5ldy1zY3JlZW4td2luZG93IHdpbmRvdy10aXRsZSBjb21tYW5kIgogICAgZXhpdApmaQoKdGl0 +bGU9JDEKY29tbWFuZD0kMgoKc2NyZWVuIC1YIHNjcmVlbiAtdCAkdGl0bGUKc2NyZWVuIC1wICR0 +aXRsZSAtWCBzdHVmZiAiJGNvbW1hbmQNIgo= + + +--=-QBj9lBQRIvLPmUIvWzuU-- + +--=-rs/E7RVL3Il+cZx9/8w7 +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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+ Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:00:04 -0400 +From: Sadrul Habib Chowdhury +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> +Mail-Followup-To: Sadrul Habib Chowdhury , + screen-users@gnu.org, screen-devel@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-devel@gnu.org +Subject: Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3424 +Lines: 79 + +Hi. I started working on a lua script loader for screen last night. I am +quite happy with the progress so far. I would like to know what people +think about this kind of work. I discussed about this briefly with Micah +last night, and he also thought discussing this in the list would be +useful. + +I will try to answer a few questions that might come up in advance: + +* Where is the patchset? +- The current patchset is available at + http://www.pidgin.im/~sadrul/pp/scripting-lua/. The patches are against + the development version of screen + (http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=screen.git) + +* What's the goal? +- The goal right now is to allow executing some user-defined function + on specific events, e.g. when a window is closed, opened, + title/position changed, a display is detached etc. etc. easily, i.e. + without requiring a recompilation/reinstallation. + + I started working on this mostly out of curiosity, to see where it + goes, and what cool things it might allow users to do. One use I have + in mind is to send some signal to the process in a window when it's not + visible in any of the displays, (and send another one when it becomes + visible for the first time). It doesn't make all that much sense to + implement such highly personalized features in screen itself. + + I am sure people will find a lot of other interesting things to do. + +* Why Lua? +- Because I like it! + To be perfectly honest, there was no compelling technical reason for me + to choose lua. I hadn't worked with lua bindings before, but I was told + it's much easier to work with than with some other scripting languages + (e.g. python!). I thought I would give it a try and find out. + +* Why not guile? +- Because I haven't seen it before, and I wasn't aware of it until Micah + told me about it last night on IRC! + + Note: with the patchset, it is possible to support multiple scripting + languages, either built-in at compile time (current), or dynamically + loaded on demand (not yet implemented, but possible semi-trivially. + [1] for details). So in theory, it will be possible to have none, + either or both lua and guile support. (and any other language someone + cares to write bindings for) + +* What about the bloat? +- I would refer to the commit message at [1] + +* Is there a sample script? +- Yes! http://www.pidgin.im/~sadrul/pp/scripting-lua/sc.lua + The 'fore_changed' function towards the end is the one that gets + executed when the foreground window for a display is changed. It prints + the list of windows (# and title), a message explaining the switch from + the previous window to the current one, and finally prints detailed + information about each display and its foreground window. The display + information includes the term, tty, user and the canvases. + +* What are the current triggers/hooks? +- Right now, only changing the foreground window in a display will + trigger a function named 'fore_changed' in the lua script. I don't have + a complete list of hooks in mind yet. I plan on adding new hooks as the + need arises. Suggestions are very welcome! + +I would love to know if people have any opinions, suggestions etc. about +this. + +[1] http://www.pidgin.im/~sadrul/pp/scripting-lua/0003-Add-a-layer-of-abstraction-for-the-script-bindings.patch + +Cheers, +Sadrul + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 15:08:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DB73DD9A + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:08:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37146 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM6Ag-0002ZR-K1 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:08:14 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM6AB-0002SS-6j + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:07:43 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM6AA-0002S0-9W + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:07:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43035 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM6A8-0002Rb-Sv; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:07:40 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:47729) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KM6A8-0000GM-I6; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:07:40 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEED3C8A932; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:07:38 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen development +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> +In-Reply-To: <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3740 +Lines: 82 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Johannes Weiner wrote: +> The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a +> powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this +> language. Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was +> probably written to this design from the beginning, I assume). +> +> Because the more you do in extension language, the more powerful +> commands you can provide to the scripting interface. +> +> And the more your configuration file becomes a program on its own, +> written for the screen library :) + +I agree with all of this. + +I mentioned to Sadrul that I find Guile preferable (which would make +Screen decidedly Emacs-like); mainly because everything is an expression +(everything's a list), so you can use for-loops inside the dynamic value +for hardstatus, etc. As I've looked at our current String Escapes +support and the sorts of features people have been requesting in String +Escapes, it's becoming clear that the current state, and any additions +we make atop it, are an ugly hack that really wants to be full +expressive support. Rather than using %w and %W and adding flags to +change their behavior, and then being dissatisfied when we can't do what +we want (restrict to specific window flags, doing "odd/even" coloring of +window titles, add "blink" rendition to windows with the alert flag), we +should be looping over the windows and examining the attributes we want, +to generate the appropriate string. + +Supplying "hooks" to screen as a C API would make it possible to tack on +any scripting lanuguage we choose, which is worth considering. However, +I'd like to see direct support for some scripting language within +screen; Guile looks like a good choice to me. + +Your comments regarding "reducing C" are appropriate; though I'm not +sure I agree with it literally, as it might impede Screen's efficiency, +and adding as little crawl beyond the "real" terminal's processing time +is a worthwhile value. But having pretty much everything be +accomplishable via the scripting language seems desirable. + +> Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was probably +> written to this design from the beginning, I assume). + +GNU Emacs was designed this way from the beginning. But this was based +on the community's past experience with Emacs; the original Emacs +was not built around a Lisp engine. Instead, it was based on a very +clunky language, that was sort of incrementally hacked to support the +various whims of its users. It was a similar situation to our String +Escapes, in that the original language lacked looping constructs (it +looks like it may have been roughly similar to the "ed" set of line +editing commands) until loops were hacked in (as the < and > commands). +It was the experience of the user community trying to hack +programming-like applications in a non-programmer-friendly language that +led to the conclusion that the best way to go was to make an +Emacs with a full-fledged programming language at its heart. Bernie +Greenberg's Emacs for Multics was the first Lisp-based Emacs (it was +written entirely in Lisp). + +(http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html was the primary reference I used +for this information.) + +- -- +Micah J. 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Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was +> > probably written to this design from the beginning, I assume). +> > +> > Because the more you do in extension language, the more powerful +> > commands you can provide to the scripting interface. +> > +> > And the more your configuration file becomes a program on its own, +> > written for the screen library :) +> +> I agree with all of this. +> +> I mentioned to Sadrul that I find Guile preferable (which would make +> Screen decidedly Emacs-like); mainly because everything is an expression +> (everything's a list), so you can use for-loops inside the dynamic value +> for hardstatus, etc. As I've looked at our current String Escapes +> support and the sorts of features people have been requesting in String +> Escapes, it's becoming clear that the current state, and any additions +> we make atop it, are an ugly hack that really wants to be full +> expressive support. Rather than using %w and %W and adding flags to +> change their behavior, and then being dissatisfied when we can't do what +> we want (restrict to specific window flags, doing "odd/even" coloring of +> window titles, add "blink" rendition to windows with the alert flag), we +> should be looping over the windows and examining the attributes we want, +> to generate the appropriate string. +> +> Supplying "hooks" to screen as a C API would make it possible to tack on +> any scripting lanuguage we choose, which is worth considering. However, +> I'd like to see direct support for some scripting language within +> screen; Guile looks like a good choice to me. +> +> Your comments regarding "reducing C" are appropriate; though I'm not +> sure I agree with it literally, as it might impede Screen's efficiency, +> and adding as little crawl beyond the "real" terminal's processing time +> is a worthwhile value. But having pretty much everything be +> accomplishable via the scripting language seems desirable. +> +While I'm relatively new here I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the +matter. Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it should be +a situation where something is only done in scripting if you want to replace +the default so as to reduce the overhead for the people that just want to +use the defaults. Or as Micah pointed out, things that currently are handled +poorly, and would significantly benefit from scripting without adding too +much overhead (string escapes etc.). + +As far as what language to use, I know lisp and guile and the like are +classic choices, but might it be a good idea to make it a language people +are likely to know outside of the context of scripting? I'm not saying it +has to be, but something in the python/perl/ruby/haskell family might be a +good idea if only because people know them well already. It's like the +experience with vim, it has a primary scripting language, which is different +from what most people know, which people used because it's what was there, +but finally python support went in and several complex extensions came into +existance which could not have otherwise. Just something to consider. +(NOTE: I'm not a python user personally, just used as an example) + + +> > Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was probably +> > written to this design from the beginning, I assume). +> +> GNU Emacs was designed this way from the beginning. But this was based +> on the community's past experience with Emacs; the original Emacs +> was not built around a Lisp engine. Instead, it was based on a very +> clunky language, that was sort of incrementally hacked to support the +> various whims of its users. It was a similar situation to our String +> Escapes, in that the original language lacked looping constructs (it +> looks like it may have been roughly similar to the "ed" set of line +> editing commands) until loops were hacked in (as the < and > commands). +> It was the experience of the user community trying to hack +> programming-like applications in a non-programmer-friendly language that +> led to the conclusion that the best way to go was to make an +> Emacs with a full-fledged programming language at its heart. Bernie +> Greenberg's Emacs for Multics was the first Lisp-based Emacs (it was +> written entirely in Lisp). +> +> (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html was the primary reference I used +> for this information.) + + +All of this is pretty correct, except that the gnu emacs we know was lisp +with a C core for a long time because redraw was impossible to write +efficiently enough in lisp for some reason. As such, when the program +entered that state, everything changed, and that's something that should +probably be avoided. Either have it be all scripted, or have it be a C core +which can be extended and modified from outside, but avoiding a situation +where most of the program is one way and certain parts are another, that +will just generate frustration and maintenance problems. + +A final word here, bloat=bad. + +I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like +distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a program +which does everything well except what it was designed for, then the point +has been missed. + + +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIiNL57M8hyUobTrERArJfAJ9Bc912lIxVfB1HGE8jtcDsCiI8jgCfZjyn +> dIALgW9PktXYelZlfluLVgo= +> =+PBO +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> +> +> + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_81787_20156685.1216932459782 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +


On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> wrote:
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+Johannes Weiner wrote:
+> The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a
+> powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this
+> language.  Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was
+> probably written to this design from the beginning, I assume).
+>
+> Because the more you do in extension language, the more powerful
+> commands you can provide to the scripting interface.
+>
+> And the more your configuration file becomes a program on its own,
+> written for the screen library :)
+
+
I agree with all of this.
+
+I mentioned to Sadrul that I find Guile preferable (which would make
+Screen decidedly Emacs-like); mainly because everything is an expression
+(everything's a list), so you can use for-loops inside the dynamic value
+for hardstatus, etc. As I've looked at our current String Escapes
+support and the sorts of features people have been requesting in String
+Escapes, it's becoming clear that the current state, and any additions
+we make atop it, are an ugly hack that really wants to be full
+expressive support. Rather than using %w and %W and adding flags to
+change their behavior, and then being dissatisfied when we can't do what
+we want (restrict to specific window flags, doing "odd/even" coloring of
+window titles, add "blink" rendition to windows with the alert flag), we
+should be looping over the windows and examining the attributes we want,
+to generate the appropriate string.
+
+Supplying "hooks" to screen as a C API would make it possible to tack on
+any scripting lanuguage we choose, which is worth considering. However,
+I'd like to see direct support for some scripting language within
+screen; Guile looks like a good choice to me.
+
+Your comments regarding "reducing C" are appropriate; though I'm not
+sure I agree with it literally, as it might impede Screen's efficiency,
+and adding as little crawl beyond the "real" terminal's processing time
+is a worthwhile value. But having pretty much everything be
+accomplishable via the scripting language seems desirable.
+
While I'm relatively new here I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the matter. Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it should be a situation where something is only done in scripting if you want to replace the default so as to reduce the overhead for the people that just want to use the defaults. Or as Micah pointed out, things that currently are handled poorly, and would significantly benefit from scripting without adding too much overhead (string escapes etc.).
+

As far as what language to use, I know lisp and guile and the like are classic choices, but might it be a good idea to make it a language people are likely to know outside of the context of scripting? I'm not saying it has to be, but something in the python/perl/ruby/haskell family might be a good idea if only because people know them well already.  It's like the experience with vim, it has a primary scripting language, which is different from what most people know, which people used because it's what was there, but finally python support went in and several complex extensions came into existance which could not have otherwise.  Just something to consider. (NOTE: I'm not a python user personally, just used as an example)
+


+> Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was probably
+> written to this design from the beginning, I assume).
+
+
GNU Emacs was designed this way from the beginning. But this was based
+on the community's past experience with Emacs; the original Emacs
+was not built around a Lisp engine. Instead, it was based on a very
+clunky language, that was sort of incrementally hacked to support the
+various whims of its users. It was a similar situation to our String
+Escapes, in that the original language lacked looping constructs (it
+looks like it may have been roughly similar to the "ed" set of line
+editing commands) until loops were hacked in (as the < and > commands).
+It was the experience of the user community trying to hack
+programming-like applications in a non-programmer-friendly language that
+led to the conclusion that the best way to go was to make an
+Emacs with a full-fledged programming language at its heart. Bernie
+Greenberg's Emacs for Multics was the first Lisp-based Emacs (it was
+written entirely in Lisp).
+
+(http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html was the primary reference I used
+for this information.)
 
All of this is pretty correct, except that the gnu emacs we know was lisp with a C core for a long time because redraw was impossible to write efficiently enough in lisp for some reason.  As such, when the program entered that state, everything changed, and that's something that should probably be avoided.  Either have it be all scripted, or have it be a C core which can be extended and modified from outside, but avoiding a situation where most of the program is one way and certain parts are another, that will just generate frustration and maintenance problems.
+

A final word here, bloat=bad.

I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a program which does everything well except what it was designed for, then the point has been missed.
+

+
+- --
+Micah J. Cowan
+Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer,
+and GNU Wget Project Maintainer.
+http://micah.cowan.name/
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Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it +>> should be a situation where something is only done in scripting if you +>> want to replace the default so as to reduce the overhead for the people +>> that just want to use the defaults. Or as Micah pointed out, things that +>> currently are handled poorly, and would significantly benefit from +>> scripting without adding too much overhead (string escapes etc.). + +Right. That's essentially what Emacs does: use C implementations where +efficiency is important, but allow users to override with Lisp + +>> As far as what language to use, I know lisp and guile and the like are +>> classic choices, but might it be a good idea to make it a language +>> people are likely to know outside of the context of scripting? I'm not +>> saying it has to be, but something in the python/perl/ruby/haskell +>> family might be a good idea if only because people know them well +>> already. + +I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme +/Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. + +The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more +straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an +expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in +GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood"). + +What I mean about complex constructs in expressions, is that in many +other languages, iterative constructs such as for-loops are statements, +not expressions. So, for instance, setting "hardstatus" to an expression +that dynamically generates a string by iterating over the window-list is +straightforward. In some of other languages, it might be impossible. +Perl could do it, probably with grep and map; Python could probably do +something similar. It wouldn't be a problem in Haskell. I don't know +about Ruby. But I suspect only in Guile and Haskell would it look like +something other than a bit of a hack. + +>> It's like the experience with vim, it has a primary scripting +>> language, which is different from what most people know, which people +>> used because it's what was there, but finally python support went in and +>> several complex extensions came into existance which could not have +>> otherwise. Just something to consider. (NOTE: I'm not a python user +>> personally, just used as an example) + +AFAICT, that's more an argument for using a full-featured language, than +any particular language. + +Part of the philosophy that went into creating Guile was that by +providing a powerful language, people could implement their favorite +languages in Scheme, and so people could work in whichever language they +like best. That sounds nice in theory, but as far as I know no one has +actually implemented their favorite languages in Guile, probably because +it wasn't worth the effort, so that's not much of a boon. :) + +>> A final word here, bloat=bad. +> +>> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like +>> distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a +>> program which does everything well except what it was designed for, then +>> the point has been missed. + +I disagree that Emacs doesn't excel at what it was designed for; but it +obviously excels at many things that are entirely unrelated to editing, +as well. + +I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but +part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the +Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why +we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart +from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example +scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could +write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that +doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to +do that when they could just do it in Emacs? + +To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much +sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has already +duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and such, some of +it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I doubt anyone's +interested in seeing that happen. :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiPEu7M8hyUobTrERAmTKAJ0fEk04Ir9HJCxpzBxH3JFAim+wiwCfd/vm +OWOFmVvTHGDk9PXhhbeEz8A= +=el6F +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 17:25:39 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0866973E393 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:38 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34251 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8Ja-00023H-DI + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:34 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8J8-0001u8-BU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8J7-0001tn-On + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60066 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8J5-0001tI-V7; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:04 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:33358) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KM8J5-0007ze-Lv; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:25:03 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA223C8A932; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4888F32D.8070701@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:25:01 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen development +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> +In-Reply-To: <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 841 +Lines: 29 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Micah Cowan wrote: +> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much +> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability + +Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; +"M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits the bill. + +- -- +Micah J. 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Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it +> >> should be a situation where something is only done in scripting if you +> >> want to replace the default so as to reduce the overhead for the people +> >> that just want to use the defaults. Or as Micah pointed out, things that +> >> currently are handled poorly, and would significantly benefit from +> >> scripting without adding too much overhead (string escapes etc.). +> +> Right. That's essentially what Emacs does: use C implementations where +> efficiency is important, but allow users to override with Lisp +> +> >> As far as what language to use, I know lisp and guile and the like are +> >> classic choices, but might it be a good idea to make it a language +> >> people are likely to know outside of the context of scripting? I'm not +> >> saying it has to be, but something in the python/perl/ruby/haskell +> >> family might be a good idea if only because people know them well +> >> already. +> +> I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme +> /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. + +Very true, haskell was a bad example, but the point remains the same. + +> +> +> The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more +> straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an +> expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in +> GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood"). +> +> What I mean about complex constructs in expressions, is that in many +> other languages, iterative constructs such as for-loops are statements, +> not expressions. So, for instance, setting "hardstatus" to an expression +> that dynamically generates a string by iterating over the window-list is +> straightforward. In some of other languages, it might be impossible. +> Perl could do it, probably with grep and map; Python could probably do +> something similar. It wouldn't be a problem in Haskell. I don't know +> about Ruby. But I suspect only in Guile and Haskell would it look like +> something other than a bit of a hack. + +Generally that might be true, but there are lambdas and the like as well as +'map' in perl and python. If the consensus is guile, that's fine, and +you're absolutely right about it making sense for a gnu project, it's just +that there are many people who are uncomfortable with, or even militantly +opposed to, lisp based languages. + +> +> +> >> It's like the experience with vim, it has a primary scripting +> >> language, which is different from what most people know, which people +> >> used because it's what was there, but finally python support went in and +> >> several complex extensions came into existance which could not have +> >> otherwise. Just something to consider. (NOTE: I'm not a python user +> >> personally, just used as an example) +> +> AFAICT, that's more an argument for using a full-featured language, than +> any particular language. + + +> Part of the philosophy that went into creating Guile was that by +> providing a powerful language, people could implement their favorite +> languages in Scheme, and so people could work in whichever language they +> like best. That sounds nice in theory, but as far as I know no one has +> actually implemented their favorite languages in Guile, probably because +> it wasn't worth the effort, so that's not much of a boon. :) + +Agreed. + +> +> +> >> A final word here, bloat=bad. +> > +> >> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like +> >> distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a +> >> program which does everything well except what it was designed for, then +> >> the point has been missed. +> +> I disagree that Emacs doesn't excel at what it was designed for; but it +> obviously excels at many things that are entirely unrelated to editing, +> as well. + +To clarify, I don't think emacs is necessarily bad at what it's meant for, +but it's easy to fall into that trap when you can do anything in the +program. For that matter it's easy to get into a pattern of adding more +features instead of improving the existing ones, something of which many +projects are guilty but it's best to avoid if possible. + +> +> +> I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but +> part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the +> Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why +> we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart +> from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example +> scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could +> write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that +> doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to +> do that when they could just do it in Emacs? +> +> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much +> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has already +> duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and such, some of +> it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I doubt anyone's +> interested in seeing that happen. :) +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIiPEu7M8hyUobTrERAmTKAJ0fEk04Ir9HJCxpzBxH3JFAim+wiwCfd/vm +> OWOFmVvTHGDk9PXhhbeEz8A= +> =el6F +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + +One way or another, I think any way this gets done will put the project +ahead of where it is. For that matter I'm glad to see so much life back in +this list. =) + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. 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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> wrote:
+
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+
Tom Scogland wrote:
+>> While I'm relatively new here I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the
+>> matter. Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it
+>> should be a situation where something is only done in scripting if you
+>> want to replace the default so as to reduce the overhead for the people
+>> that just want to use the defaults. Or as Micah pointed out, things that
+>> currently are handled poorly, and would significantly benefit from
+>> scripting without adding too much overhead (string escapes etc.).
+
+
Right. That's essentially what Emacs does: use C implementations where
+efficiency is important, but allow users to override with Lisp
+

+>> As far as what language to use, I know lisp and guile and the like are
+>> classic choices, but might it be a good idea to make it a language
+>> people are likely to know outside of the context of scripting? I'm not
+>> saying it has to be, but something in the python/perl/ruby/haskell
+>> family might be a good idea if only because people know them well
+>> already.
+
+
I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme
+/Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does.
Very true, haskell was a bad example, but the point remains the same.  
+
+
+The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more
+straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an
+expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in
+GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood").
+
+What I mean about complex constructs in expressions, is that in many
+other languages, iterative constructs such as for-loops are statements,
+not expressions. So, for instance, setting "hardstatus" to an expression
+that dynamically generates a string by iterating over the window-list is
+straightforward. In some of other languages, it might be impossible.
+Perl could do it, probably with grep and map; Python could probably do
+something similar. It wouldn't be a problem in Haskell. I don't know
+about Ruby. But I suspect only in Guile and Haskell would it look like
+something other than a bit of a hack.
Generally that might be true, but there are lambdas and the like as well as 'map' in perl and python.  If the consensus is guile, that's fine, and you're absolutely right about it making sense for a gnu project, it's just that there are many people who are uncomfortable with, or even militantly opposed to, lisp based languages.
+

+

+>> It's like the experience with vim, it has a primary scripting
+>> language, which is different from what most people know, which people
+>> used because it's what was there, but finally python support went in and
+>> several complex extensions came into existance which could not have
+>> otherwise.  Just something to consider. (NOTE: I'm not a python user
+>> personally, just used as an example)
+
+
AFAICT, that's more an argument for using a full-featured language, than
+any particular language.
+
+Part of the philosophy that went into creating Guile was that by
+providing a powerful language, people could implement their favorite
+languages in Scheme, and so people could work in whichever language they
+like best. That sounds nice in theory, but as far as I know no one has
+actually implemented their favorite languages in Guile, probably because
+it wasn't worth the effort, so that's not much of a boon. :)
Agreed. 

+

+>> A final word here, bloat=bad.
+>
+>> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like
+>> distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a
+>> program which does everything well except what it was designed for, then
+>> the point has been missed.
+
+
I disagree that Emacs doesn't excel at what it was designed for; but it
+obviously excels at many things that are entirely unrelated to editing,
+as well.
To clarify, I don't think emacs is necessarily bad at what it's meant for, but it's easy to fall into that trap when you can do anything in the program. For that matter it's easy to get into a pattern of adding more features instead of improving the existing ones, something of which many projects are guilty but it's best to avoid if possible.
+

+
+I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but
+part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the
+Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why
+we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart
+from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example
+scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could
+write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that
+doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to
+do that when they could just do it in Emacs?
+
+To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much
+sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has already
+duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and such, some of
+it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I doubt anyone's
+interested in seeing that happen. :)
+

+- --
+Micah J. Cowan
+Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer,
+and GNU Wget Project Maintainer.
+http://micah.cowan.name/
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One way or another, I think any way this gets done will put the project ahead of where it is.  For that matter I'm glad to see so much life back in this list. =)

+--
-N
AKA:Tom Scogland
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-Albert Einstein +
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The thing +you probably don't get is talks-to-serial-ports :-) + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 18:40:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3A073FC3F + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48023 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9UQ-0008E5-Ef + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:50 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9Tt-00080M-RQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:17 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9Ts-0007zR-Jj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:17 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60154 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM9Ts-0007zJ-8s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:16 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:59582) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KM9Tr-0004Gv-Rh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:40:16 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6OMdrEv013462 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:39:55 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216922818; bh=sbfBEDdY3BFH9FAZf0GgSBEX7B4=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:User-Agent: + MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=egekmeDVxhG8EqUhJreIGlDONMdoIVkZbDROy + oUk8m24/xhhjAmVH9o+rYx1bHYvDJ2S4k1p9xkp42y1mxYWHg== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent: + mime-version:content-type; + b=j7w5Q920aYnCgoDYVf4pTETr/z6EPHjKHMQqDibcLGuX4kVJ0D04ZwlgTVDe36La4 + 9EbbmNzBstjzlO6uIvRFw== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6OMdniu013453; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:39:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:39:47 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Subject: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1065 +Lines: 40 + +Hey all, + +I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can (and +have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these features +justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I don't believe they +work at this time. + +1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it would +work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of printer +stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH applications +interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. + +2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. + +I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers who +can look at this and make it happen. + +Any takers? + +-Dan Mahoney + +-- + +"It would be bad." + +-Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters" + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 18:43:06 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EACE73F967 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:43:05 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48815 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9WW-00014w-VE + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:43:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9WA-000146-J6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:42:38 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM9W6-00011Y-U4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:42:38 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60205 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM9W6-00011V-QH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:42:34 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]:24304) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KM9W5-0004lT-Ji + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:42:34 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2486762wfc.24 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:42:30 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=dBnu510uuGtgX/nh9c8g8aX9bGKgcx0Ez0TycrPqeaI=; + b=WUB8yzslxG/vV9Df6o6aaiZEDlQcQzrpXcjOkwKrjtELqwDnM+Pf3iO42zz4QkE2Gp + QzCaD7de/P4PYPEBstwFFn3fmOFtFtn8psejUl8LAktAHUoRO8GUlnXVX0AhV67lfkfQ + 3gif3/EKM5L019mn6rw6fbpxGCKOqQwgJ2UNI= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=l+NxeBv8ScoZ0ReA4Erg5MPmOoxwV6fF52iyUtI0/SAy7MZEoigeuNy0LoRcn4CnPh + kmRmEn4eoAaWMCGEQiNLQFifGjUyU/ZMA6QoXPNeT74J+b/IPO18BdpUj5cvi8FuH7ve + RvvNh0j4GP+n4olJxklpdY/L0EO5QpdLOxdd0= +Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr282621wff.306.1216939349886; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:42:29 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.174.12 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:42:29 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:29 -0500 +From: "Tom Scogland" +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1458581350==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4423 +Lines: 129 + +--===============1458581350== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_82407_11159301.1216939349882" + +------=_Part_82407_11159301.1216939349882 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +What do you mean about the mouse? It already sends mouse codes through from +a terminal... + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin < +danm@prime.gushi.org> wrote: + +> Hey all, +> +> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can (and have) +> discussed on this list, as well as having seen these features justified and +> explained on mailing lists before, but I don't believe they work at this +> time. +> +> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it would +> work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of printer +> stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH applications interpret +> that stop sequence as a page feed. +> +> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +> +> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers who can +> look at this and make it happen. +> +> Any takers? +> +> -Dan Mahoney +> +> -- +> +> "It would be bad." +> +> -Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters" +> +> --------Dan Mahoney-------- +> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +> Site: http://www.gushi.org +> --------------------------- +> +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_82407_11159301.1216939349882 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
What do you mean about the mouse? It already sends mouse codes through from a terminal...

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin <danm@prime.gushi.org> wrote:
+
Hey all,
+
+I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder.  I can (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I don't believe they work at this time.
+ +
+1) Make printing work.  And by that I mean make it work JUST as it would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed.
+ +
+2) Make mouse work.  I haven't seen much with this.
+
+I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers who can look at this and make it happen.
+
+Any takers?
+
+-Dan Mahoney
+
+--
+
+"It would be bad."
+
+-Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters"
+
+--------Dan Mahoney--------
+Techie,  Sysadmin,  WebGeek
+Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC
+ICQ: 13735144   AIM: LarpGM
+Site:  http://www.gushi.org
+---------------------------
+
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+screen-users mailing list
+screen-users@gnu.org
+http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users
+



--
-N
AKA:Tom Scogland
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
+-Albert Einstein +
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I assume +we're talking about the Print Window / Redirect to Printer feature Xterm +has, that's tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17310. I don't +know enough to even know whether it's even practical to "fix" screen for +use with that, but a monetary incentive for fixing it would at least +motivate me to dig in a bit more (TBH, without that incentive it drops +to the bottom of my to-do list: not enough demand AFAICT). + +- -Micah + +Tom Scogland wrote: +> What do you mean about the mouse? It already sends mouse codes through +> from a terminal... +> +> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin +> > wrote: +> +> Hey all, +> +> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can +> (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these +> features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I +> don't believe they work at this time. +> +> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. +> +> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +> +> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers +> who can look at this and make it happen. +> +> Any takers? +> +> -Dan Mahoney +> +> -- +> +> "It would be bad." +> +> -Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters" +> +> --------Dan Mahoney-------- +> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +> Site: http://www.gushi.org +> --------------------------- +> +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> +> +> +> -- +> -N +> AKA:Tom Scogland +> I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination +> is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination +> encircles the world. +> -Albert Einstein +> +> +> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +- -- +Micah J. 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M-x terminal is the dumb terminal. M-x term gives a fully-emulated +terminal ("eterm"). + +- -- +Micah J. 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The first part should be readable text, + while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. + +--0-914270223-1216941967=:74296 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed + +On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Tom Scogland wrote: + +> What do you mean about the mouse? It already sends mouse codes through from a terminal... + +Using gnome-terminal under linux, to a FreeBSD 6.2 system. Mouse works. + +I fire up screen (with screen 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03 built from ports) and +it doesn't in either Alpine or Nano, both of which otherwise support it. + +Unlike printing, I don't know what terminal codes to look for to know if +the mouse is supported. + +-Dan + +> +> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> Hey all, +> +> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these features justified +> and explained on mailing lists before, but I don't believe they work at this time. +> +> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of printer +> stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. +> +> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +> +> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers who can look at this and make it happen. +> +> Any takers? +> +> -Dan Mahoney +> +> -- +> +> "It would be bad." +> +> -Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters" +> +> --------Dan Mahoney-------- +> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +> Site: http://www.gushi.org +> --------------------------- +> +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> +> +> +> -- +> -N +> AKA:Tom Scogland +> I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the +> world. +> -Albert Einstein +> +> + +-- + +"I am a professional drinker, and I know that that was NOT Jose Cuervo!" + +"Well, what was it then?" + +"I think it was some mixture of Rubbing Alcohol, and Desenex(TM) Foot +Powder, because my feet feel okay, and my back doesn't hurt, but my +stomach is killing me!" + +-Dan Mahoney, Costa Rica, August 12th, 1994 + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + +--0-914270223-1216941967=:74296 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--0-914270223-1216941967=:74296-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 19:44:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF24733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:44:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42716 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMATV-0008VW-VQ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:58 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAT5-0008TS-PY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:31 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAT4-0008Pq-12 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:31 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33407 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAT3-0008Pk-Oz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:29 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:45675) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMAT3-0005QK-B2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:29 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45103C8A932; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:43:24 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4889139C.1010804@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:43:24 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1857 +Lines: 53 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Tom Scogland wrote: +> +>> What do you mean about the mouse? It already sends mouse codes through +>> from a terminal... +> +> Using gnome-terminal under linux, to a FreeBSD 6.2 system. Mouse works. +> +> I fire up screen (with screen 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03 built from ports) +> and it doesn't in either Alpine or Nano, both of which otherwise support +> it. + +Nano works for me, at least after I type M-m. It doesn't work outside of +screen unless I type M-m, either. + +I don't have Alpine. + +But as previously mentioned, the problem isn't that screen doesn't +support terminal mouse codes; the problem is that there is no mechanism +for screen to advertise to applications that it supports it, and so many +applications won't send the codes to request that support. + +This is a terminfo issue, and I hope at some point to get together with +the ncurses folks and whoever else it might concern, to work towards +resolution of this problem, and some others. However, it's not going to +happen overnight, and every mouse-capable application will need to +adjust to that mechanism, once it exists. + +I have been successfully using both Emacs and Vim under screen with +mouse support. Both required configuration adjustments to make it happen. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiROb7M8hyUobTrERAtveAJ9ebDZvNpbCAc4BVBg24YQHCyDtXQCeJiiF +A8oZEkqCa+j6IZDuc5mqHeI= +=ZEyL +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 19:45:05 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AE3733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43173 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAUW-0001TW-5e + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:00 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMATm-00010m-2f + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:44:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMATk-0000yI-GY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:44:13 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33443 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMATk-0000xp-8R + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:44:12 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:60051) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMATj-0005WR-EQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:44:12 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6ONhmJ0046399 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:53 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216926659; bh=ayZRwUUfOi8VTGivLCcNuwEgMfQ=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: + Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=14GU + U/pJQcOV6okU+LGLEZYOXa80QmNO2/vM1EwDdmMRR0fzxnHBq1VRkUFi9++6s5iujTK + ZtpbpH5HLOkCJSg== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: + references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; + b=P5uoGoRsaGhI2wfAdbY7TZnac7TbPxyLqa15dnu+v2/Tqh48GAoS6v69r0VFF91Qw + R4aHQL1E7X5ihKLpNtP0w== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6ONhmf5046398; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: Micah Cowan +In-Reply-To: <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> +Message-ID: +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:10:59 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4718 +Lines: 143 + +On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Perhaps he's referring to the fact that it won't work until the +> application requests mouse tracking, and several applications don't +> request mouse tracking from screen. + +Is there a way to trace if this is happening? I've given you the +applications I use. Micah, I've been a user and advocate of wget for many +years. If you would like a shell, please let me know. + +> If that's the case, there's really nothing we can do until terminfo +> supports a way of advertising DEC/xterm mouse capabilities (kmous +> doesn't really cut it). + +..if (windowtitle =~ /^nano/) { set sendmouseevents = 1; } would suffice +just fine. Or just give us an option to toggle mouse events on or off by +default. Or a ctrl-a :mouseon! My xterm doesn't know what on the other +end of an SSH session is requesting or not, it just happily sends the +click events down the pipe. Aware applications use them. Unaware apps +discard them. + +> I'd need more info on the printing stuff, as I never use it. I assume +> we're talking about the Print Window / Redirect to Printer feature Xterm +> has, that's tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17310. I don't +> know enough to even know whether it's even practical to "fix" screen for +> use with that, but a monetary incentive for fixing it would at least +> motivate me to dig in a bit more (TBH, without that incentive it drops +> to the bottom of my to-do list: not enough demand AFAICT). + +http://www.mail-archive.com/screen-users@gnu.org/msg01387.html + +Additionally to the requests I've made there -- a possible option is to +disable the window-switching commands (in fact, disable ctrl-a entirely so +the screen switching doesn't hose the print job -- but in reality the +print comes over the wire so fast it's done in a second, on any modern +connection). + +Contact me out of band to discuss further if you want to pursue this +route. + +-Dan Mahoney + +>> Hey all, +>> +>> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can +>> (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these +>> features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I +>> don't believe they work at this time. +>> +>> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +>> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +>> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +>> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. +>> +>> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +>> +>> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers +>> who can look at this and make it happen. +>> +>> Any takers? +>> +>> -Dan Mahoney +>> +>> -- +>> +>> "It would be bad." +>> +>> -Egon Spengler, "Ghostbusters" +>> +>> --------Dan Mahoney-------- +>> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +>> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +>> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +>> Site: http://www.gushi.org +>> --------------------------- +>> +>> +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>> +>> +>> +>> +>> -- +>> -N +>> AKA:Tom Scogland +>> I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination +>> is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination +>> encircles the world. +>> -Albert Einstein +>> +>> +>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIiQko7M8hyUobTrERAlVSAKCEitiPt8GnjcZi3kMC1fF1sNi2RgCfZ8Ej +> zbV+wJGwShYvItmMt7K0nso= +> =6noM +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> + +-- + +"When I'm lost, and confused, and trying to make a U-turn, nothing annoys +me more than someone telling me to watch out for the tombstone!" + +"How often does that happen, Fab?" + +-David Feld & Tom Fabry, sometime in High School. + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 20:06:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14378733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51094 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMApS-0001yH-R1 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMApA-0001xX-Bi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:20 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAp8-0001we-GU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:19 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58761 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAp8-0001wW-9l + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:18 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:47598) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMAp7-0000DN-A6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:06:17 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FDD3C8A932; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:06:15 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:06:14 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3467 +Lines: 81 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +(My Thunderbird screws up the quoting, yours appear "deeper" than mine.) + +Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: +> +> Perhaps he's referring to the fact that it won't work until the +> application requests mouse tracking, and several applications don't +> request mouse tracking from screen. +> +>> Is there a way to trace if this is happening? I've given you the +>> applications I use. Micah, I've been a user and advocate of wget for +>> many years. If you would like a shell, please let me know. + +Well, if you activate logging in the screen window, you can check for +the presence of the "send mouse codes" request sequence. It'll be one of +\E9h, \E1000h, or \E1001h. + +> If that's the case, there's really nothing we can do until terminfo +> supports a way of advertising DEC/xterm mouse capabilities (kmous +> doesn't really cut it). +> +>> ..if (windowtitle =~ /^nano/) { set sendmouseevents = 1; } would suffice +>> just fine. Or just give us an option to toggle mouse events on or off +>> by default. Or a ctrl-a :mouseon! My xterm doesn't know what on the +>> other end of an SSH session is requesting or not, it just happily sends +>> the click events down the pipe. Aware applications use them. Unaware +>> apps discard them. + +That's unlikely to be true. The applications on the other end of the SSH +tunnel requested the click events, first (based on the TERM env var +having something like "xterm" in it: they check for that value +explicitly, but usually don't recognize "screen" as a mouse-capable term +name). Try running your ssh session under script, and check for the +\E1001h, etc, sequences, in the resulting typescript. + +You've mentioned Nano, but that actually works for me (it uses ncurses, +which assumes decent mouse support if kmous is advertised, which screen +does), so long as mouse support has been enabled ("nano -m" or typing +M-m). I know that Vim and some other apps do an explicit check for the +value of TERM, though, which is why they can't be resolved without +configuration adjustments. + +Blanket sending of mouse codes without them being requested is bad +behavior, and would result in spewing codes to the screen in some cases +(say, when you suspend nano to work in your shell). The application has +to be expecting them. + +> I'd need more info on the printing stuff, as I never use it. I assume +> we're talking about the Print Window / Redirect to Printer feature Xterm +> has, that's tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17310. I don't +> know enough to even know whether it's even practical to "fix" screen for +> use with that, but a monetary incentive for fixing it would at least +> motivate me to dig in a bit more (TBH, without that incentive it drops +> to the bottom of my to-do list: not enough demand AFAICT). +> +>> http://www.mail-archive.com/screen-users@gnu.org/msg01387.html + +Hm, that doesn't look unachievable. :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiRj17M8hyUobTrERAnkXAJ0Zl2eZ2riZrMKiCrLXP/qW10IcpACcDtwj +4q6/VUHPu3zGh2egslncZqM= +=tq/b +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 20:09:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDEA733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50836 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAsA-0006vE-H3 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:26 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMArt-0006ts-Oe + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:09 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMArr-0006sb-TK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:09 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41688 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMArr-0006sY-Qc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:07 -0400 +Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.230]:48558) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMArq-0000Yf-OA + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:07 -0400 +Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so159630hud.1 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:09:01 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject + :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; + bh=XoZbSCGlk1/VYOFrNJkhAM59VUs6TJYBwaGNuopPziE=; + b=cblH6VrshtaN0xET0WUgSpbrVjbiGQz7ZJcuGGrugV+DnLP7sZ+nvrzXVspvmyUPKg + Qa4QkxxWgKgG3PXr9W2n/cyskX7wgIt0vqw8rT6jn2cj7b9isvZQTe8/3D0M5D2POeb0 + qWC7UilWyFEKtg8GB9evip7EXEYbBMgLB/FXw= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer + :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; + b=F1x1jvjmtRG3k5EZtnSisg3n3muajkZ780Pum/aRKfRVW5vVMNa3aVxR/mUCK0vqBw + K46AC0iWh3IaZxoD6nvYZmxtiaolBQj/32GwkRT8whjOuNUSohItH9aCvzmjmPtYB5tc + aVnMsadoEj0yLKwdwyTrsrGjYd9S5qatel6Hs= +Received: by 10.210.123.2 with SMTP id v2mr1119357ebc.74.1216944540993; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from shuttle.home ( [86.146.37.86]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t12sm1616421gvd.10.2008.07.24.17.08.59 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:08:54 +0100 +From: Thomas Adam +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080725010854.0bbad84a@shuttle.home> +In-Reply-To: <4889139C.1010804@cowan.name> +References: + + + <4889139C.1010804@cowan.name> +X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 577 +Lines: 19 + +On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:43:24 -0700 +Micah Cowan wrote: +> I have been successfully using both Emacs and Vim under screen with +> mouse support. Both required configuration adjustments to make it +> happen. + +Can you share this information, please? Sounds interesting. :) + +-- Thomas Adam + +-- +"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my +head." -- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 20:15:55 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F45733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:54 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53227 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAyK-0002so-Tg + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:48 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAy2-0002sW-8J + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:30 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMAxy-0002s3-PG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:28 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32945 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMAxy-0002ry-LL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:26 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:48388) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMAxx-0001If-Rb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:26 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF05D3C8A932; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:15:19 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48891B15.2080306@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:15:17 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Thomas Adam +References: <4889139C.1010804@cowan.name> + <20080725010854.0bbad84a@shuttle.home> +In-Reply-To: <20080725010854.0bbad84a@shuttle.home> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1422 +Lines: 52 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Thomas Adam wrote: +> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:43:24 -0700 +> Micah Cowan wrote: +>> I have been successfully using both Emacs and Vim under screen with +>> mouse support. Both required configuration adjustments to make it +>> happen. +> +> Can you share this information, please? Sounds interesting. :) + +FWIW, I submitted a patch against Vim at one point to enable it +automatically. Bram said it looked good, but hasn't applied it yet +AFAIK. However, it has been applied against Vim in recent Ubuntu releases. + +https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/screen/+bug/113227 + +In my .vimrc for other Vims, I have: + +if &term == 'screen' + set mouse=nic + set ttymouse=xterm2 +endif + +(you might want "set mouse=a", or some other setting, above). + +In my .emacs, I have: + +(require 'xt-mouse) +(xterm-mouse-mode t) +(mouse-wheel-mode t) + +- -- +Micah J. 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Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080725012207.GA2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3941 +Lines: 80 + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:16:30PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme +> /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. + +Last time I looked, on Freenode, #haskell has around double the number +of people that #scheme has. While I think more people know *of* +Scheme and Lisp and understand the basics, my impression is that there +is a lot more people actively writing Haskell every day than there are +people actively writing Scheme every day. + +However, I wouldn't recommend Haskell as an extension language for an +existing C-based application -- Haskell isn't designed for that role. +(cf. Lua was designed for *exactly* that role.) + +> The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more +> straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an +> expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in +> GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood"). + +How many *active* projects use guile as an extension language, and +aren't trying to get rid of it? How large is the guile user community +(people writing code and libraries in guile)? How active is the guile +developer community (people improving guile itself)? + +My impression is that *nobody* likes Guile. At all. Over the years, +I've met *one* guile user who actively advocated it, and about twelve +months ago he learned CL and admitted that he liked that much better. + +>>> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an +>>> emacs-like distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the +>>> generation of a program which does everything well except what it +>>> was designed for, then the point has been missed. + +$ printf '%s\t%s\n' `grep-aptavail -sInstalled-Size,Package -S --regex ^emacs22 | cut -d: -f 2` +412 emacs22-bin-common +4032 emacs22-common-non-dfsg +7120 emacs22-nox +7548 emacs22 +7548 emacs22-gtk +13264 emacs22-el +51780 emacs22-common + +emacs22, emacs22-nox and emacs22-gtk are alternative front-ends, so +the smaller two can be ignored in the count. The emacs22-el package +is not used (since emacs22-common contains the byte-compiled +versions), so it can also be ignored. Arguably most of emacs22-common +should also be ignored, since it mostly constitutes applications that +are written on top of Emacs and aren't needed by Emacs itself. Even +if you count it, that's a total of (+ 412 4032 7548 51780) ==> 64MB, +not "100+ MB". + +There's no real reason emacs22-common couldn't be split up into the +"core" files needed to run Emacs itself, plus a separate package for +applications. This isn't done because in general, nobody really cares +about wasting 50MB of disk space. + +> I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but +> part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the +> Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why +> we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart +> from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example +> scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could +> write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that +> doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to +> do that when they could just do it in Emacs? +> +> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as +> much sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has +> already duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and +> such, some of it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I +> doubt anyone's interested in seeing that happen. :) + +ElScreen is an Emacs window session manager modeled after GNU screen +by NaotoMorishima, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ElScreen + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 21:29:19 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D8A733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:29:17 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33912 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMC7M-0008C1-Mu + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:29:12 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMC71-00089t-IS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:28:51 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMC6z-000889-UE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:28:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59946 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMC6z-00087z-QX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:28:49 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]:51806) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMC6y-0002KZ-Cw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:28:49 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2539411wfc.24 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:28:45 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=DaybSC6WXHYJ9QFLglTCY7N1f841BvaCBqFX3uEWx8E=; + b=nYkjX+MEBOxHLXgp1ZZf9u3Psi6//qYlNMcRBB7+IBuNHp4n1Du3144f7kmi79fC8S + CtyEZdgjwQR5GHQhSQCOxNOlNymPsGmunwK1+7503WlqbiqnMSrOoWkVZDcYPLqCKfAD + 1ir5PMWDOXwfHkr5gLoacMOjVMEP2aPFzFLOo= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=QHHP+5Fed9cYrL4FfpseUc6/GP4gFI3Q3HVrZbfhAN8XHEIUyF6JSDzQUd0LP4anaY + fN0tff0KVksuI9FSaQ7TNi3X2E1qjOFv7VJr3LP4XBQ+BSdZWasNLN18tLHmkdkO/uSG + vkt57YNbr7LMyhJkqSG9uroBHfvoB+xASN4lQ= +Received: by 10.142.89.9 with SMTP id m9mr339003wfb.71.1216949325694; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:28:45 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.174.12 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:28:45 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:28:45 -0500 +From: "Tom Scogland" +To: "Trent W. Buck" +In-Reply-To: <20080725012207.GA2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> <20080725012207.GA2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1807823708==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 11357 +Lines: 219 + +--===============1807823708== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_82735_29179557.1216949325660" + +------=_Part_82735_29179557.1216949325660 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Trent W. Buck wrote: + +> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:16:30PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> > I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme +> > /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. +> +> Last time I looked, on Freenode, #haskell has around double the number +> of people that #scheme has. While I think more people know *of* +> Scheme and Lisp and understand the basics, my impression is that there +> is a lot more people actively writing Haskell every day than there are +> people actively writing Scheme every day. +> +> However, I wouldn't recommend Haskell as an extension language for an +> existing C-based application -- Haskell isn't designed for that role. +> (cf. Lua was designed for *exactly* that role.) +> +> > The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more +> > straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an +> > expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in +> > GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood"). +> +> How many *active* projects use guile as an extension language, and +> aren't trying to get rid of it? How large is the guile user community +> (people writing code and libraries in guile)? How active is the guile +> developer community (people improving guile itself)? +> +> My impression is that *nobody* likes Guile. At all. Over the years, +> I've met *one* guile user who actively advocated it, and about twelve +> months ago he learned CL and admitted that he liked that much better. +> +> >>> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an +> >>> emacs-like distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the +> >>> generation of a program which does everything well except what it +> >>> was designed for, then the point has been missed. +> +> $ printf '%s\t%s\n' `grep-aptavail -sInstalled-Size,Package -S --regex +> ^emacs22 | cut -d: -f 2` +> 412 emacs22-bin-common +> 4032 emacs22-common-non-dfsg +> 7120 emacs22-nox +> 7548 emacs22 +> 7548 emacs22-gtk +> 13264 emacs22-el +> 51780 emacs22-common +> +> emacs22, emacs22-nox and emacs22-gtk are alternative front-ends, so +> the smaller two can be ignored in the count. The emacs22-el package +> is not used (since emacs22-common contains the byte-compiled +> versions), so it can also be ignored. Arguably most of emacs22-common +> should also be ignored, since it mostly constitutes applications that +> are written on top of Emacs and aren't needed by Emacs itself. Even +> if you count it, that's a total of (+ 412 4032 7548 51780) ==> 64MB, +> not "100+ MB". + +Comment withdrawn, the number was drawn from the last time I installed +emacs, which was back when I used windows several years ago, and the emacs +package for cygwin was 105mb and the native install was 120mb. Evidently it +has been streamlined significantly in the meantime. + +> +> +> There's no real reason emacs22-common couldn't be split up into the +> "core" files needed to run Emacs itself, plus a separate package for +> applications. This isn't done because in general, nobody really cares +> about wasting 50MB of disk space. +> +> > I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but +> > part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the +> > Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why +> > we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart +> > from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example +> > scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could +> > write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that +> > doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to +> > do that when they could just do it in Emacs? +> > +> > To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as +> > much sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has +> > already duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and +> > such, some of it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I +> > doubt anyone's interested in seeing that happen. :) +> +> ElScreen is an Emacs window session manager modeled after GNU screen +> by NaotoMorishima, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ElScreen +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_82735_29179557.1216949325660 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +


On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Trent W. Buck <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
+
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:16:30PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote:
+> I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme
+> /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does.
+
+
Last time I looked, on Freenode, #haskell has around double the number
+of people that #scheme has.  While I think more people know *of*
+Scheme and Lisp and understand the basics, my impression is that there
+is a lot more people actively writing Haskell every day than there are
+people actively writing Scheme every day.
+
+However, I wouldn't recommend Haskell as an extension language for an
+existing C-based application -- Haskell isn't designed for that role.
+(cf. Lua was designed for *exactly* that role.)
+

+> The only reasons I prefer Guile over those, is (1) it's much more
+> straightforward to use complex constructs, such as loops, within an
+> expression, and (2) GNU recommends it as first choice for scripting in
+> GNU projects (it's a GNU project, so would be "eating our own dogfood").
+
+
How many *active* projects use guile as an extension language, and
+aren't trying to get rid of it?  How large is the guile user community
+(people writing code and libraries in guile)?  How active is the guile
+developer community (people improving guile itself)?
+
+My impression is that *nobody* likes Guile.  At all.  Over the years,
+I've met *one* guile user who actively advocated it, and about twelve
+months ago he learned CL and admitted that he liked that much better.
+

+>>> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an
+>>> emacs-like distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the
+>>> generation of a program which does everything well except what it
+>>> was designed for, then the point has been missed.
+
+
$ printf '%s\t%s\n' `grep-aptavail -sInstalled-Size,Package -S --regex ^emacs22 | cut -d: -f 2`
+412     emacs22-bin-common
+4032    emacs22-common-non-dfsg
+7120    emacs22-nox
+7548    emacs22
+7548    emacs22-gtk
+13264   emacs22-el
+51780   emacs22-common
+
+emacs22, emacs22-nox and emacs22-gtk are alternative front-ends, so
+the smaller two can be ignored in the count.  The emacs22-el package
+is not used (since emacs22-common contains the byte-compiled
+versions), so it can also be ignored.  Arguably most of emacs22-common
+should also be ignored, since it mostly constitutes applications that
+are written on top of Emacs and aren't needed by Emacs itself.  Even
+if you count it, that's a total of (+ 412 4032 7548 51780) ==> 64MB,
+not "100+ MB".
Comment withdrawn, the number was drawn from the last time I installed emacs, which was back when I used windows several years ago, and the emacs package for cygwin was 105mb and the native install was 120mb.  Evidently it has been streamlined significantly in the meantime. 
+

+
+There's no real reason emacs22-common couldn't be split up into the
+"core" files needed to run Emacs itself, plus a separate package for
+applications.  This isn't done because in general, nobody really cares
+about wasting 50MB of disk space.
+

+> I suspect we don't have to worry too much about that for Screen; but
+> part of that may depend on how choosy we are about what we let into the
+> Screen distribution. For my part, I don't currently see any reason why
+> we would need to provide any Scheme code with Screen whatsoever, apart
+> from probably a sample ~/.screenrc.scm, and perhaps other example
+> scripts. Sure, a powerful programming language means that folks could
+> write "Towers of Hanoi" or an email client within Screen; but that
+> doesn't mean we have to include it. And anyway, why would they want to
+> do that when they could just do it in Emacs?
+>
+> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as
+> much sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability; Screen has
+> already duplicated quite a bit of Emacs' layout functionality and
+> such, some of it not yet as well as Emacs itself does it. But I
+> doubt anyone's interested in seeing that happen. :)
+
+
ElScreen is an Emacs window session manager modeled after GNU screen
+by NaotoMorishima, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ElScreen
+

+
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+ +------=_Part_82735_29179557.1216949325660-- + + + +--===============1807823708== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1807823708==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 21:36:59 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DB0733F0D + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:58 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49652 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMCEo-0005de-Vo + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:55 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMCEW-0005bq-Mv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:36 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMCEU-0005aH-Cf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:35 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59938 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMCEU-0005a3-6p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:34 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail07.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.71]:59139 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMCES-0003DR-UP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:36:33 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 39445293-1849793 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:06:22 +0930 (CST) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:36:21 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080725013619.GB2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1745 +Lines: 44 + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 06:39:47PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can +> (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these +> features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I +> don't believe they work at this time. +> +> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. + +I don't know what you're talking about. Can you provide step-by-step +instructions to reproduce this bug? + +> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +> +> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers +> who can look at this and make it happen. + +Mouse works for me within screen: + + xterm -e screen emacs -nw -Q -f xterm-mouse-mode + +Note that this requires Emacs to be compiled with X enabled (i.e. it +doesn't work in emacs22-nox). The scroll wheel also works, but +requires bindings. From my .emacs: + + (when (and (fboundp 'xterm-mouse-mode) + (not window-system) + (featurep 'mouse)) + (xterm-mouse-mode +1) + (when (fboundp 'mwheel-scroll) + (global-set-key (kbd "") 'mwheel-scroll) + (global-set-key (kbd "") 'mwheel-scroll))) + +PS: note that (not window-system) has the wrong semantics in CVS Emacs +with mtty, e.g. if your first Emacs window is a native X window but +then you start an mtty emacsclient inside screen. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 00:11:25 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189473DD9A + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:11:25 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35475 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEeF-0005vH-T7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:11:19 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEdx-0005ug-IO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:11:01 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEdw-0005uT-3B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:11:00 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59193 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMEdv-0005uQ-TU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:59 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:64320) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMEdv-0005mM-KE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:59 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6P4AjjB096746 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:47 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216942674; bh=fCF5ONGQMQNTlFLWY3Anw708tkg=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: + Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EOAQ + POGH7WQvAC5nMrS9BRj35c06p7lKHVHOtw/dBlHa1xlzr/hG0KYf53TIPR0+nJvhxNr + Gk8+AHheu9cMpXA== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: + references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; + b=gLeywN82gRK2wVwS/7VUULVMWzrLdDhJ+E/6uKiOnllOeY787Eo8QSMeOeD6UjFvV + fkHaKZjBlbPvOS6lmmjsg== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6P4AbYm096711; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:10:36 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: "Trent W. Buck" +In-Reply-To: <20080725013619.GB2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +Message-ID: +References: + <20080725013619.GB2506@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:54 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4430 +Lines: 116 + +On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: + +> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 06:39:47PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +>> I need two features added to screen, but I'm not a coder. I can +>> (and have) discussed on this list, as well as having seen these +>> features justified and explained on mailing lists before, but I +>> don't believe they work at this time. +>> +>> 1) Make printing work. And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +>> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +>> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +>> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. +> +> I don't know what you're talking about. Can you provide step-by-step +> instructions to reproduce this bug? + +It's right in the gnu screen man page. Without screen, if you're in (say) +pine, or use a program such as ansiprint to print a file, it will send, +literally, to the screen: + +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[your file] +[possibly a formfeed] +[printer off] + +Now, what screen does, is the following: + +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[small chunk of your file] +[printer off] +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[another small chunk of your file] +[printer off] +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[yet another small chunk of your file] +[printer off] +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[even another small chunk of your file] +[printer off] +[printer on code as described in termcap/terminfo] +[and another small chunk of your file] +[printer off] + +And so on. And it thinks it's doing you a favor. + +Screen's manpage sums this logic up: + +When the `po' and `pf' capabilities are present in the terminal's term- +cap entry, applications running in a screen window can send output to +the printer port of the terminal. This allows a user to have an appli- +cation in one window sending output to a printer connected to the ter- +minal, while all other windows are still active (the printer port is +enabled and disabled again for each chunk of output). As a side- +effect, programs running in different windows can send output to the +printer simultaneously. Data sent to the printer is not displayed in +the window. The info command displays a line starting `PRIN' while the +printer is active. + +---End Manpage Section--- + +All the above makes a whole lot of sense on, say, a line printer over +300BPS with a 20 page document. + +On programs like secureCRT (my terminal of choice), all this +buffer/unbuffer crap causes my laser printer to eject a page because it +sees every printer-stop sequence as the end of the sequence. Thus I get +one PAGE per Chunk. + +SecureCRT has a workaround for this -- which basically causes me to have +to print from my terminal, then say "eject page" in SecureCRT -- so as a +result of Screen's buffering behavior, SecureCRT also has to buffer, and +it causes me an extra level of necessary interaction. Whereas, if screen +had just passed the sequences along as-is, everything would be fine. + +This is a kludge to "background printing" which only makes sense with a +lot of data, over a slow link. Any other time, the data is out faster +than I can possibly even switch windows. If I don't want my keyboard and +screen sequences messing up the print job, then I could just have screen +block my ability to use ctrl-a until the print is done, or I send an abort +sequence. That would prevent me from switching windows (and possibly +MISSING the "printer off" sequence.) + +>> 2) Make mouse work. I haven't seen much with this. +>> +>> I'm willing to toss something monetary at a developer or developers +>> who can look at this and make it happen. +> +> Mouse works for me within screen: + +Then there's likely something wrong with my system or my shell, or my +termcap, and it is best filed as an OS bug. Please contact me out of band +and I can arrange a shell. It's a public server and has been used to +test several other pieces of opensource. Tell me if it works for you on +my end. + +-Dan + +-- + +"One...plus two...plus one...plus one." + +-Tim Curry, Clue + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 00:29:43 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DA873DD9A + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:42 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54610 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEvz-00051w-L6 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:39 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEvh-00051f-Sg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:21 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMEvg-00051T-Cu + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:20 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54607 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMEvg-00051Q-7Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:20 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:58613) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMEvf-0007xb-Ub + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:20 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6P4T54S007301 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:07 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216943774; bh=uMyxp32++6p7cB5jgj2Cm1ga414=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: + Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1mHj + +cM/82UsRnml5AytyjRt5qa71qzdNeYGXCSNm7PH8nZnZgqC8s4hvP7QjAEgnbhmHz8 + voHQw/nTbWd7i9w== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: + references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; + b=w7g1VEuxtGhdImoBe52f2K6FMJV28t6I4c9t6s1i0dlFqAiTkwdOxVhxqXi4xsAB0 + PxxgtnjvY9+pEUWLubPSQ== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6P4T5xl007293; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:29:02 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: Micah Cowan +In-Reply-To: <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> +Message-ID: +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:56:14 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3966 +Lines: 98 + +On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: + +>>> Is there a way to trace if this is happening? I've given you the +>>> applications I use. Micah, I've been a user and advocate of wget for +>>> many years. If you would like a shell, please let me know. +> +> Well, if you activate logging in the screen window, you can check for +> the presence of the "send mouse codes" request sequence. It'll be one of +> \E9h, \E1000h, or \E1001h. +> +>> If that's the case, there's really nothing we can do until terminfo +>> supports a way of advertising DEC/xterm mouse capabilities (kmous +>> doesn't really cut it). +>> +>>> ..if (windowtitle =~ /^nano/) { set sendmouseevents = 1; } would suffice +>>> just fine. Or just give us an option to toggle mouse events on or off +>>> by default. Or a ctrl-a :mouseon! My xterm doesn't know what on the +>>> other end of an SSH session is requesting or not, it just happily sends +>>> the click events down the pipe. Aware applications use them. Unaware +>>> apps discard them. +> +> That's unlikely to be true. The applications on the other end of the SSH +> tunnel requested the click events, first (based on the TERM env var +> having something like "xterm" in it: they check for that value +> explicitly, but usually don't recognize "screen" as a mouse-capable term +> name). Try running your ssh session under script, and check for the +> \E1001h, etc, sequences, in the resulting typescript. + +This is wrong. Setting the $TERM to "xterm" within screen does not +cause nano -m to work for me. + +As far as I know, once a terminal session is negotiated, settings don't +change. Screen is particularly obnoxious about intercepting and not +passing down the pipe things it doesn't understand. + +You're telling me that in the following chain... + +[1 local window mananger] -- [2 xterm] -- [3 ssh] -- [4 sshd] -- [5 shell] +-- [6 application] + +That somehow #6 can tell #2 or even #1 not to send their events? I think +the "local" terminal is far dumber than that. + +> You've mentioned Nano, but that actually works for me (it uses ncurses, +> which assumes decent mouse support if kmous is advertised, which screen +> does), so long as mouse support has been enabled ("nano -m" or typing +> M-m). I know that Vim and some other apps do an explicit check for the +> value of TERM, though, which is why they can't be resolved without +> configuration adjustments. + +My current environment: Mac with Xterm (terminal.app doesn't send mouse +events). Also, windows machine with putty, or Linux machine with +gnome-terminal. + +All have the same issue. Before I start screen -q, nano -m works fine. + +> Blanket sending of mouse codes without them being requested is bad +> behavior, and would result in spewing codes to the screen in some cases +> (say, when you suspend nano to work in your shell). The application has +> to be expecting them. + +Yes, and nano is expecting them when I start it with -m (within screen or +not). + +..why would I suspend nano to work in my shell. That would KINDA defeat +the purpose of running screen :) + +>> I'd need more info on the printing stuff, as I never use it. I assume +>> we're talking about the Print Window / Redirect to Printer feature Xterm +>> has, that's tracked at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?17310. I don't +>> know enough to even know whether it's even practical to "fix" screen for +>> use with that, but a monetary incentive for fixing it would at least +>> motivate me to dig in a bit more (TBH, without that incentive it drops +>> to the bottom of my to-do list: not enough demand AFAICT). + +Expanded on in a different response. Perhaps to be forked. + +-Dan + +-- + +"Station!" + +-Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 01:39:36 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7D973EF47 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:39:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39396 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMG1c-0002SZ-5W + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:39:32 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMFyM-0000Uh-8z + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:10 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMFyK-0000Si-Ek + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:09 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46474 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMFyJ-0000SR-KI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:07 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:48568) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMFyJ-0000PW-8h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:36:07 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-193-219-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.193.219.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF773CC8060; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:36:05 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:36:02 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2369 +Lines: 59 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +>> That's unlikely to be true. The applications on the other end of the SSH +>> tunnel requested the click events, first (based on the TERM env var +>> having something like "xterm" in it: they check for that value +>> explicitly, but usually don't recognize "screen" as a mouse-capable term +>> name). Try running your ssh session under script, and check for the +>> \E1001h, etc, sequences, in the resulting typescript. +> +> This is wrong. Setting the $TERM to "xterm" within screen does not +> cause nano -m to work for me. + +It does for me, over your provided ssh access. I'll provide the full +details when I'm done exploring. + +> As far as I know, once a terminal session is negotiated, settings don't +> change. Screen is particularly obnoxious about intercepting and not +> passing down the pipe things it doesn't understand. +> +> You're telling me that in the following chain... +> +> [1 local window mananger] -- [2 xterm] -- [3 ssh] -- [4 sshd] -- [5 +> shell] -- [6 application] +> +> That somehow #6 can tell #2 or even #1 not to send their events? I +> think the "local" terminal is far dumber than that. + +The question is whether it can tell them _to_ send their events. And +yes, that's accurate: a program that sends the "send mouse events" +sequence to screen will have them passed along to other terms - provided +that screen itself detects that it is being run in a mouse-capable +display (determined by checking for the presence of either "xterm" or +"rxvt" in the TERM value). (This is _exactly_ why terminfo needs to be +extended to allow advertising this feature.) That list ought to be +expanded to include "screen" itself. I thought I remembered patching +that once, but maybe it was a distro-specific patch that didn't make it +upstream, or something. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiWZC7M8hyUobTrERAnGiAJ9zY+YiHDxWfc0gWAoEyYUOoOHJaACfShN+ ++BE7X3/FIP0zx8gmrWtYgC8= +=B7V2 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 01:49:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF6311D50 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50554 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGBS-00088T-DS + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:42 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGAw-00086v-O7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:10 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGAu-00085H-S9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:09 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33280 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMGAu-00084z-Fx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:08 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:56175) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMGAt-0002no-VM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:49:08 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6P5msud060056 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:48:56 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216948563; bh=GEOTG+rSMwpe/HuRLRsyFpH0px4=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: + Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1Td6 + P4AWBqIbE/TV9fC+/8YlPggsesbCaYSr2OeMGD7k3q5Hn3adV6uv4FZOSCbOw+STGhS + jhQLB3GS1iCOf8w== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: + references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; + b=g4/CcHRreowx8CSazBmGxkOP33OXVXceFrNIz7TyJgxejzHOyaFAOev5FcvotwfQW + aNxSCNiv3xmwE/2rdckCg== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6P5ms81060055; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:48:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:48:53 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: Micah Cowan +In-Reply-To: <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> +Message-ID: +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:16:04 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3190 +Lines: 90 + +On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +>>> That's unlikely to be true. The applications on the other end of the SSH +>>> tunnel requested the click events, first (based on the TERM env var +>>> having something like "xterm" in it: they check for that value +>>> explicitly, but usually don't recognize "screen" as a mouse-capable term +>>> name). Try running your ssh session under script, and check for the +>>> \E1001h, etc, sequences, in the resulting typescript. +>> +>> This is wrong. Setting the $TERM to "xterm" within screen does not +>> cause nano -m to work for me. +> +> It does for me, over your provided ssh access. I'll provide the full +> details when I'm done exploring. + +Wait, where are you running screen? My assumption was that you be running +it ON prime.gushi.org, not before you ssh in. + +When I ssh from my mac to prime, nano -m works. + +When I ssh from my mac to prime and start screen -q, nano -m doesn't. + +I haven't tried it with screen on the LOCAL end of the SSH connection +(kinda defeats the point of being able to detach, eh?) + +-Dan + +> +>> As far as I know, once a terminal session is negotiated, settings don't +>> change. Screen is particularly obnoxious about intercepting and not +>> passing down the pipe things it doesn't understand. +>> +>> You're telling me that in the following chain... +>> +>> [1 local window mananger] -- [2 xterm] -- [3 ssh] -- [4 sshd] -- [5 +>> shell] -- [6 application] +>> +>> That somehow #6 can tell #2 or even #1 not to send their events? I +>> think the "local" terminal is far dumber than that. +> +> The question is whether it can tell them _to_ send their events. And +> yes, that's accurate: a program that sends the "send mouse events" +> sequence to screen will have them passed along to other terms - provided +> that screen itself detects that it is being run in a mouse-capable +> display (determined by checking for the presence of either "xterm" or +> "rxvt" in the TERM value). (This is _exactly_ why terminfo needs to be +> extended to allow advertising this feature.) That list ought to be +> expanded to include "screen" itself. I thought I remembered patching +> that once, but maybe it was a distro-specific patch that didn't make it +> upstream, or something. +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIiWZC7M8hyUobTrERAnGiAJ9zY+YiHDxWfc0gWAoEyYUOoOHJaACfShN+ +> +BE7X3/FIP0zx8gmrWtYgC8= +> =B7V2 +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> + +-- + +"Don't try to out-wierd me. I get stranger things than you free with my +breakfast cereal." + +-Button seen at I-CON XVII (and subsequently purchased) + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 01:56:11 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BB211D50 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:56:11 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55376 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGHg-0003km-J2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:56:08 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGHK-0003kM-O0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:55:46 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGHI-0003jv-Nq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:55:46 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57898 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMGHI-0003jr-HC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:55:44 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50270) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMGHI-0003zm-91 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:55:44 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-193-219-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.193.219.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF9D3CC8060; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:55:43 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48896ADE.6010004@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:55:42 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1870 +Lines: 56 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: +> +> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +>>>>> That's unlikely to be true. The applications on the other end of the +>>>>> SSH +>>>>> tunnel requested the click events, first (based on the TERM env var +>>>>> having something like "xterm" in it: they check for that value +>>>>> explicitly, but usually don't recognize "screen" as a mouse-capable +>>>>> term +>>>>> name). Try running your ssh session under script, and check for the +>>>>> \E1001h, etc, sequences, in the resulting typescript. +>>>> +>>>> This is wrong. Setting the $TERM to "xterm" within screen does not +>>>> cause nano -m to work for me. +> +> It does for me, over your provided ssh access. I'll provide the full +> details when I'm done exploring. +> +>> Wait, where are you running screen? My assumption was that you be +>> running it ON prime.gushi.org, not before you ssh in. + +Right. I'm doing both. + +>> When I ssh from my mac to prime, nano -m works. +> +>> When I ssh from my mac to prime and start screen -q, nano -m doesn't. + +When you set TERM=xterm? (That was what we were talking about) + +Within screen running on gushi, "TERM=xterm nano -m" gives me mouse +capabilities (but isn't a great idea long-term, as it may well screw up +other things subtly). + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiWre7M8hyUobTrERAsf3AJ4wQ1wDKjchlCS8LgnypR31IxCIEwCfVHP4 +JyRlzpdnhHeEuBKUdx7hrfI= +=AnOa +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 03:08:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DBA439BB0 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:08:17 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54192 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHPQ-0000FA-Iu + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:08:12 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHP5-0000Cv-SC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:51 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHP3-0000Cj-Gb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:50 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59834 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMHP3-0000Cg-Bo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:49 -0400 +Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:37672) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KMHP2-0002Ny-SL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:49 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]) + by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMHP2-0001OZ-B7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:48 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-193-219-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.193.219.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575233CC8060; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48897BC1.9090903@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:07:45 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1727 +Lines: 56 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Okay, so here's what I've found. + +I confirmed that nano and alpine get mouse events outside screen (duh). + +I confirmed that alpine _works_ with mouse inside screen, no problems. I +have to set DISPLAY to a fake value, but I had to do that to make it +work outside of screen, too. + +I confirmed that nano does _not_ work by default inside of screen. It +doesn't send the "send mouse events" sequence (it sends the \E[?1000h +sequence outside of screen). If I tell screen to send mouse events +anyway, nano -m doesn't process them correctly (clicking in the editor +pane brings up the help screen, instead of just moving the cursor). To +get screen to send mouse events, I did: + + $ printf '\033[?1000h'; nano -m + +You'll want to do a + + $ printf '\033[?1000l' + +Sometime afterwards to disable the mouse events again. + +BTW, I confirmed that, on my home system, nano under screen doesn't work +for me either. However, when I was at work, it worked fine. I just ssh'd +in and verified it works fine. The version for the one that worked is +1.3. on RedHat, yours is 2.0.7, and mine is 2.0.6. + +Running + + $ TERM=xterm nano -m + +works fine for me in screen. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiXvA7M8hyUobTrERAiGEAJ0SD/WQYhtJXFNKH3rHKv+fWWqelgCfeTyY +8ZRQh4JTWHzuTEmT9F7wzK0= +=EDbP +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 03:33:03 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1A973EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:33:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48477 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHnQ-0000aG-KF + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:33:00 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHn9-0000Zr-Ay + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:32:43 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHn7-0000Zf-Q9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:32:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34414 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMHn7-0000Zc-JE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:32:41 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail08.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.72]:58970 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMHn6-0004ra-Ob + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:32:41 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 23332671-1927428 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:02:34 +0930 (CST) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:32:33 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080725073231.GB7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1322 +Lines: 29 + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:36:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> The question is whether it can tell them _to_ send their events. And +> yes, that's accurate: a program that sends the "send mouse events" +> sequence to screen will have them passed along to other terms - +> provided that screen itself detects that it is being run in a +> mouse-capable display (determined by checking for the presence of +> either "xterm" or "rxvt" in the TERM value). + +Please clarify: what are the semantics when using screen -x, say with +one TERM=xterm and one TERM=linux ? + +Also, does this work correctly with xterm -e screen ssh fooserv screen +emacs -nw -- that is, when the "inner" screen sees TERM=screen rather +than TERM=xterm? It seems to me that TERM=screen should be included +in the list of term types that screen expects to support mouse inputs. + +> (This is _exactly_ why terminfo needs to be extended to allow +> advertising this feature.) That list ought to be expanded to include +> "screen" itself. I thought I remembered patching that once, but +> maybe it was a distro-specific patch that didn't make it upstream, +> or something. + +Oops, I guess that answers my second question :-) + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 03:44:32 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D5573EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:44:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53380 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHyX-00020u-Cs + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:44:29 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHwf-00017U-Ki + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:42:33 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMHwd-00013a-Cp + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:42:32 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33198 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMHwc-00013S-3h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:42:30 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:60065) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMHwZ-0006e9-6l + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:42:27 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-193-219-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.193.219.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276203CC8060; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:42:25 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <488983E1.1050708@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:42:25 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Trent W. Buck" +References: <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + <20080725073231.GB7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +In-Reply-To: <20080725073231.GB7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1337 +Lines: 38 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Trent W. Buck wrote: +> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:36:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +>> The question is whether it can tell them _to_ send their events. And +>> yes, that's accurate: a program that sends the "send mouse events" +>> sequence to screen will have them passed along to other terms - +>> provided that screen itself detects that it is being run in a +>> mouse-capable display (determined by checking for the presence of +>> either "xterm" or "rxvt" in the TERM value). +> +> Please clarify: what are the semantics when using screen -x, say with +> one TERM=xterm and one TERM=linux ? + +The one with TERM=xterm will get the mouse-enable sequence passed +through to it (assuming it was attached at the time that sequence was +sent); the TERM=linux one won't. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiYPg7M8hyUobTrERAhS/AJsFyHJr1sWiBZllh41qZ7bYdy2JdgCdGQuZ +C1jtezbveG6RvvXliyZTpUg= +=FWOO +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 03:53:27 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CAD73EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:26 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59378 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMI79-0004cW-Kg + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:23 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMI6q-0004bt-1G + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:04 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMI6o-0004bG-Aj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:03 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38395 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMI6o-0004b4-2G + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:02 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail10.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.74]:57943 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMI6m-0008UQ-Nh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:53:01 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 23787567-1927428 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:22:53 +0930 (CST) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:52:51 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080725075249.GG7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + <20080725073231.GB7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> + <488983E1.1050708@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <488983E1.1050708@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1310 +Lines: 33 + +On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:42:25AM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Trent W. Buck wrote: +> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:36:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> >> The question is whether it can tell them _to_ send their events. And +> >> yes, that's accurate: a program that sends the "send mouse events" +> >> sequence to screen will have them passed along to other terms - +> >> provided that screen itself detects that it is being run in a +> >> mouse-capable display (determined by checking for the presence of +> >> either "xterm" or "rxvt" in the TERM value). +> > +> > Please clarify: what are the semantics when using screen -x, say with +> > one TERM=xterm and one TERM=linux ? +> +> The one with TERM=xterm will get the mouse-enable sequence passed +> through to it (assuming it was attached at the time that sequence was +> sent); the TERM=linux one won't. + +Would it be better to have screen "remember" if an enable sequence was +sent, so that if I *later* do + + xterm -e screen -xRR + +the *new* xterm will also know about mousiness? (IIUC, currently the +xterm has to be connected when you do M-x xterm-mouse-mode.) + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 03:58:31 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC6473EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:58:30 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51058 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMIC3-0008Lk-T0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:58:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMIBU-00086L-2P + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:57:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMIBS-000858-BU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:57:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32955 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMIBS-000854-3C + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:57:50 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:33133) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMIBR-0000oU-MG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:57:49 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-193-219-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.193.219.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4353CC8060; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:57:48 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4889877C.9020708@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:57:48 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Trent W. Buck" +References: <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> <20080725073231.GB7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> <488983E1.1050708@cowan.name> + <20080725075249.GG7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +In-Reply-To: <20080725075249.GG7119@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1032 +Lines: 35 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Trent W. Buck wrote: +> Would it be better to have screen "remember" if an enable sequence was +> sent, so that if I *later* do +> +> xterm -e screen -xRR +> +> the *new* xterm will also know about mousiness? (IIUC, currently the +> xterm has to be connected when you do M-x xterm-mouse-mode.) + +That's what I thought. However, I just tried it, and I was surprised to +find that it worked fine, even though the xterm connected after Vim had +been started. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIiYd87M8hyUobTrERArPTAJ4oUjmB46gfL9aYqdYEFWdeNJ1gGgCeMUNy +lh4enS/LI0UqY6LWdzv5Wow= +=VbOy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 13:51:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FD173EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:51:04 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48440 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRRT-00026i-5S + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRRB-00026b-Qe + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:41 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRRA-000268-QI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45913 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMRRA-00025z-J0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:40 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org ([72.9.101.130]:60431) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMRR9-0003Sz-Ve + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:40 -0400 +Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6PHoOgC031329 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:26 -0400 (EDT) + (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; + s=primegushiorg; t=1216991860; bh=smzb5YSEK/mutN5QhrQOp40LW44=; + h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: + Message-ID:References:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EsWn + uP8iThz0OAcl1zarTKXzv7yrCc3nmc0rCSqCcXuUbn8xMwf9bhLgDF32ZyqiaRFEPTc + OSRVmQqdToSOrew== +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; + q=dns; + h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: + references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; + b=VNAyY7zT5iRxpadXgYq+YQg5eKlwXk5XfZa6mtTiaMWMlgxK9p48VzNDiGERp59gx + NlasmuXTZksK64XNLhgQQ== +Received: (from danm@localhost) + by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m6PHoOju031323; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:50:24 -0400 (EDT) +From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +To: Micah Cowan +In-Reply-To: <48897BC1.9090903@cowan.name> +Message-ID: +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + + <48897BC1.9090903@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:17:40 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3307 +Lines: 102 + +On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: + +Yes, I'm top-posting...but it's relevant. + +So from Micah's findings, it would almost appear that based on the +application, there's a number of things that one needs to do to make this +work. (xterm value, fake display, manually send the escape sequence, +etc). + +This is definitely something that fits well into some kind of +documentation grid as to what-setup-requires-what... + +I'm not sure if there's anything in screen that can fix it (although I +think the window-title hack is a neat answer). I am also not sure if this +should be brought to the nano/alpine/whatnot developers -- there are at +LEAST a couple situations where you want a mouse without a display, i.e. +console-access, where screen is ideal (but then, you have multiple virtual +consoles). + +Let me think on this a bit more -- there's GOT to be a clean way to handle +this -- Micah, do you think it's relevant to open bugs with the +appropriate projects? + +Or better still, can we come up with a way to define a "test case" for +mouse under screenable events? + +(I had a coworker tell me I should run gpm in my ssh session, to fix +this...I wonder how right he might have been...other than that I'm under +freeBSD). + + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Okay, so here's what I've found. +> +> I confirmed that nano and alpine get mouse events outside screen (duh). +> +> I confirmed that alpine _works_ with mouse inside screen, no problems. I +> have to set DISPLAY to a fake value, but I had to do that to make it +> work outside of screen, too. +> +> I confirmed that nano does _not_ work by default inside of screen. It +> doesn't send the "send mouse events" sequence (it sends the \E[?1000h +> sequence outside of screen). If I tell screen to send mouse events +> anyway, nano -m doesn't process them correctly (clicking in the editor +> pane brings up the help screen, instead of just moving the cursor). To +> get screen to send mouse events, I did: +> +> $ printf '\033[?1000h'; nano -m +> +> You'll want to do a +> +> $ printf '\033[?1000l' +> +> Sometime afterwards to disable the mouse events again. +> +> BTW, I confirmed that, on my home system, nano under screen doesn't work +> for me either. However, when I was at work, it worked fine. I just ssh'd +> in and verified it works fine. The version for the one that worked is +> 1.3. on RedHat, yours is 2.0.7, and mine is 2.0.6. +> +> Running +> +> $ TERM=xterm nano -m +> +> works fine for me in screen. +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIiXvA7M8hyUobTrERAiGEAJ0SD/WQYhtJXFNKH3rHKv+fWWqelgCfeTyY +> 8ZRQh4JTWHzuTEmT9F7wzK0= +> =EDbP +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> + +-- + +"You're a thucking reyer!" + +-Richard Bozzello, who believed tongue piercing was painless. + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Jul 25 13:59:52 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE93873EF93 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:51 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36921 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRa0-0005C5-Sa + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:48 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRZY-00058G-3H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:20 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMRZX-00057l-K7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:19 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51178 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMRZX-00057i-9k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:19 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:60580) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMRZW-0004pY-Sk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:59:19 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91543CC8060; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:59:17 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <488A1474.2090609@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:59:16 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +References: + + <48890928.7060205@cowan.name> + + <488918F6.5060104@cowan.name> + + <48896642.8050507@cowan.name> + + <48897BC1.9090903@cowan.name> + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3036 +Lines: 82 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> So from Micah's findings, it would almost appear that based on the +> application, there's a number of things that one needs to do to make +> this work. (xterm value, fake display, manually send the escape +> sequence, etc). + +No; to my knowledge, the only program I've ever seen require DISPLAY to +be set is alpine, which is kind of retarded. + +Manually sending the escape sequence will _not_ work, as I mentioned +previously. It will get screen to send the sequences, to be sure, but it +will not put the application into an accepting state (nano -m would not +accept them properly, despite being in "mouse enabled" mode, unless the +term was "xterm"). + +> This is definitely something that fits well into some kind of +> documentation grid as to what-setup-requires-what... + +Probably should go on the wiki. http://aperiodic.net/screen/ + +> I'm not sure if there's anything in screen that can fix it (although I +> think the window-title hack is a neat answer). + +Won't work: that'll be equivalent to what I did with "sending the escape +sequence first"; nano still doesn't interpret them. + +Even if it did work, it'd be a bad idea, except for your own personal +use. Even if you never suspend nano to work in the shell, other people +certainly may. + +> I am also not sure if +> this should be brought to the nano/alpine/whatnot developers -- there +> are at LEAST a couple situations where you want a mouse without a +> display, i.e. console-access, where screen is ideal (but then, you have +> multiple virtual consoles). + +AFAICT, nano doesn't explicitly look for xterm; it may well be an +ncurses issue, rather than nano. + +> Let me think on this a bit more -- there's GOT to be a clean way to +> handle this -- Micah, do you think it's relevant to open bugs with the +> appropriate projects? + +It can't hurt; I had some success with that in Vim. But adding "screen" +to the list of approved terminals is not a good general solution; it +really needs to be addressed in ncurses/terminfo. + +> Or better still, can we come up with a way to define a "test case" for +> mouse under screenable events? +> +> (I had a coworker tell me I should run gpm in my ssh session, to fix +> this...I wonder how right he might have been...other than that I'm under +> freeBSD). + +Does gpm work that way? I wouldn't have thought so, but I don't really +know that much about gpm. + +I thought it's intended to work on the actual console terms, though, +with the local mouse. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIihR07M8hyUobTrERApJTAJ4/QI0rfcHTRvVv1Hl/Qo/eI5bo5gCeNCt4 ++ji1+8OfmFUov9sJhJoARLI= +=Hy2p +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:02:07 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B3E43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:02:07 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39090 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMn9f-000713-OP + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:02:03 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM3QB-000550-Fk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:12:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM3QA-00054i-Gv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:12:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55988 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM3Q8-00054D-UE; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:12:01 -0400 +Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:43275) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KM3Q8-00084x-HJ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:12:00 -0400 +Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) + id 2DB772F0048; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:59 +0200 (CEST) +Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) + by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5644B2F0006; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:58 +0200 (CEST) +From: Johannes Weiner +To: Sadrul Habib Chowdhury +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:11:33 +0200 +In-Reply-To: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> (Sadrul Habib Chowdhury's + message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:00:04 -0400") +Message-ID: <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:28 -0400 +Cc: screen-devel@gnu.org, screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4302 +Lines: 100 + +Hi, + +Sadrul Habib Chowdhury writes: + +> Hi. I started working on a lua script loader for screen last night. I am +> quite happy with the progress so far. I would like to know what people +> think about this kind of work. I discussed about this briefly with Micah +> last night, and he also thought discussing this in the list would be +> useful. +> +> I will try to answer a few questions that might come up in advance: +> +> * Where is the patchset? +> - The current patchset is available at +> http://www.pidgin.im/~sadrul/pp/scripting-lua/. The patches are against +> the development version of screen +> (http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=screen.git) +> +> * What's the goal? +> - The goal right now is to allow executing some user-defined function +> on specific events, e.g. when a window is closed, opened, +> title/position changed, a display is detached etc. etc. easily, i.e. +> without requiring a recompilation/reinstallation. +> +> I started working on this mostly out of curiosity, to see where it +> goes, and what cool things it might allow users to do. One use I have +> in mind is to send some signal to the process in a window when it's not +> visible in any of the displays, (and send another one when it becomes +> visible for the first time). It doesn't make all that much sense to +> implement such highly personalized features in screen itself. +> +> I am sure people will find a lot of other interesting things to do. +> +> * Why Lua? +> - Because I like it! +> To be perfectly honest, there was no compelling technical reason for me +> to choose lua. I hadn't worked with lua bindings before, but I was told +> it's much easier to work with than with some other scripting languages +> (e.g. python!). I thought I would give it a try and find out. +> +> * Why not guile? +> - Because I haven't seen it before, and I wasn't aware of it until Micah +> told me about it last night on IRC! +> +> Note: with the patchset, it is possible to support multiple scripting +> languages, either built-in at compile time (current), or dynamically +> loaded on demand (not yet implemented, but possible semi-trivially. +> [1] for details). So in theory, it will be possible to have none, +> either or both lua and guile support. (and any other language someone +> cares to write bindings for) + +I once hacked something together that was based on guile but I ran into +problems with user input, IIRC. I will try to look at the problem again +in the near future, hopefully. + +I really like the idea. Thanks for doing this! + +By the way, Python is also embeddable :) + +> * What about the bloat? +> - I would refer to the commit message at [1] + +Screw the bloat, there are larger full-blown window managers around :-) + +> * Is there a sample script? +> - Yes! http://www.pidgin.im/~sadrul/pp/scripting-lua/sc.lua +> The 'fore_changed' function towards the end is the one that gets +> executed when the foreground window for a display is changed. It prints +> the list of windows (# and title), a message explaining the switch from +> the previous window to the current one, and finally prints detailed +> information about each display and its foreground window. The display +> information includes the term, tty, user and the canvases. +> +> * What are the current triggers/hooks? +> - Right now, only changing the foreground window in a display will +> trigger a function named 'fore_changed' in the lua script. I don't have +> a complete list of hooks in mind yet. I plan on adding new hooks as the +> need arises. Suggestions are very welcome! +> +> I would love to know if people have any opinions, suggestions etc. about +> this. + +The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a +powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this +language. Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was +probably written to this design from the beginning, I assume). + +Because the more you do in extension language, the more powerful +commands you can provide to the scripting interface. + +And the more your configuration file becomes a program on its own, +written for the screen library :) + + Hannes + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:02:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8BF43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:02:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39488 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnAP-0007R4-T7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:02:49 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8aK-0002PR-6D + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8aJ-0002Oz-Hb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58826 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KM8aI-0002Nt-6a; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:50 -0400 +Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:45786) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KM8aH-0002Jt-Pk; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:42:50 -0400 +Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) + id A84BB2F0048; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:42:47 +0200 (CEST) +Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) + by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BBA2F0006; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:42:47 +0200 (CEST) +From: Johannes Weiner +To: Screen development +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + +Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:42:23 +0200 +In-Reply-To: + (Tom Scogland's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:39 -0500") +Message-ID: <87y73r3qo0.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:28 -0400 +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1382 +Lines: 32 + +Hi Tom, + +"Tom Scogland" writes: + +> All of this is pretty correct, except that the gnu emacs we know was lisp +> with a C core for a long time because redraw was impossible to write +> efficiently enough in lisp for some reason. As such, when the program +> entered that state, everything changed, and that's something that should +> probably be avoided. Either have it be all scripted, or have it be a C +> core which can be extended and modified from outside, but avoiding a +> situation where most of the program is one way and certain parts are +> another, that will just generate frustration and maintenance problems. +> A final word here, bloat=bad. +> I would really like to see scripting, but if it means an emacs-like +> distribution of 100+ MB of scripting files and the generation of a program +> which does everything well except what it was designed for, then the point +> has been missed. + +This is just because the Emacs developers chose to include 2+ +mailclients and 2+ irc clients into the standard distribution. + +That is no must, I think. I hope that having screen scriptable will +lead to a lot of cool scripts being published and shared, but the screen +distribution can still be kept at a minimum. + + Hannes + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:03:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7680143BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:03:37 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39887 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnB8-0007ub-HD + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; 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+ Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:34:35 +0200 (CEST) +From: Johannes Weiner +To: Screen development +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> <4888F32D.8070701@cowan.name> + <87tzee51l5.fsf@saeurebad.de> <48890B9B.3010907@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:34:11 +0200 +In-Reply-To: <48890B9B.3010907@cowan.name> (Micah Cowan's message of "Thu, 24 + Jul 2008 16:09:15 -0700") +Message-ID: <87bq0mg5to.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:28 -0400 +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 756 +Lines: 29 + +Hi, + +Micah Cowan writes: + +> Johannes Weiner wrote: +>> Hi, +>> +>> Micah Cowan writes: +>> +>>> Micah Cowan wrote: +>>>> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much +>>>> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability +>>> Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; +>>> "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits the bill. +>> +>> Only a dumb terminal, though :( +> +> Nope. M-x terminal is the dumb terminal. M-x term gives a fully-emulated +> terminal ("eterm"). + +Awesome, did not know at all! Thanks for the hinter! + + Hannes + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:05:07 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FFB43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:05:07 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35449 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnCZ-0000OA-3F + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:05:03 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGSD-00080g-L9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:07:01 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGSB-0007zw-V5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:07:01 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56751 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMGSB-0007zY-QQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:06:59 -0400 +Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]:15592) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMGS9-0005l7-Li + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:06:58 -0400 +Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so5135706mue.6 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:06:56 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type; + bh=b/6JPojKbPzFTMBJqfOMKeHgeWYSlfW4UdT6RtECEbA=; + b=hxgjBzwY4mVbJC3qIntzBCVzkhp/Lflfix6KckST8Jn2IV3J2/Crh44QdU/9UhAQdw + qZ8Pv1MwRaACngCNIC5/rEW1y5MhIqicFm6Spq5MP6Igpieq78c1L+y0KYcmxiyYt9L/ + jC97WnDxFyPu6VeatJ0nclNlizza5gGJYA3Wk= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; + b=tOatY4xU7DumcheaXb4KUWVNwo3unTR7tOZpKP9UA0HQRRWY24ILhhfdsR2nhTjIqj + GMu/2ACgCS+1kQR7z8w/wRPA9iZXMkHCT3zBXvOpX8dvCYohfssrYj/f5MOYVLSyGQJ9 + J/kKY17e+k4h+XG7eMxkAscYW37/ahA5YS/b4= +Received: by 10.103.40.5 with SMTP id s5mr731867muj.133.1216966015742; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:06:55 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.102.247.9 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:06:55 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <75586370807242306p452f77e8m9201306dc73bf37@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:06:55 -0500 +From: "Joe Zbiciak" +To: "Micah Cowan" , screen-users@gnu.org, + "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:29 -0400 +Cc: +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1854995847==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3993 +Lines: 123 + +--===============1854995847== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_10854_14533524.1216966015710" + +------=_Part_10854_14533524.1216966015710 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +This is the point of the conversation where I butt my head in and +look stupid. :-) + + +----- Original Message ---- +Micah Cowan wrote: +> >> Wait, where are you running screen? My assumption was that you be +> >> running it ON prime.gushi.org, not before you ssh in. +> +> Right. I'm doing both. +> +> >> When I ssh from my mac to prime, nano -m works. +> > +> >> When I ssh from my mac to prime and start screen -q, nano -m doesn't. +> +> When you set TERM=xterm? (That was what we were talking about) +> +> Within screen running on gushi, "TERM=xterm nano -m" gives me mouse +> capabilities (but isn't a great idea long-term, as it may well screw up +> other things subtly). + + +Micah, + +This may be a silly question, but how does "screen" decide that the +attaching terminal supports capturing mouse events? It could be that +nano says it's interested, but screen thinks they're not available. + +I'm no expert in the screen code base, but is this where? + + if (InStr(D_termname, "xterm") || InStr(D_termname, "rxvt")) + D_CXT = 1; + +Dan, + +What do you have TERM set to when you launch screen? If you say +"TERM=xterm screen" to start screen, does that change things? + +Regards, + +--Joe + + +-- +We sell spatulas, and that's all! +http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/ +http://spacepatrol.info/ + +------=_Part_10854_14533524.1216966015710 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
This is the point of the conversation where I butt my head in and
+look stupid.  :-)
+
+
+----- Original Message ----
+Micah Cowan wrote:
+> >> Wait, where are you running screen?  My assumption was that you be
+> >> running it ON prime.gushi.org, not before you ssh in.
+>
+> Right. I'm doing both.
+>
+> >> When I ssh from my mac to prime, nano -m works.
+> >
+> >> When I ssh from my mac to prime and start screen -q, nano -m doesn't.
+>
+> When you set TERM=xterm? (That was what we were talking about)
+>
+> Within screen running on gushi, "TERM=xterm nano -m" gives me mouse
+> capabilities (but isn't a great idea long-term, as it may well screw up
+> other things subtly).
+
+
+Micah,
+   
+This may be a silly question, but how does "screen" decide that the
+attaching terminal supports capturing mouse events?  It could be that
+nano says it's interested, but screen thinks they're not available.
+
+I'm no expert in the screen code base, but is this where?
+
+  if (InStr(D_termname, "xterm") || InStr(D_termname, "rxvt"))
+      D_CXT = 1;
+             
+Dan, 
+   
+What do you have TERM set to when you launch screen?  If you say
+"TERM=xterm screen" to start screen, does that change things?
+
+Regards,
+
+--Joe
+

--
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+ +------=_Part_10854_14533524.1216966015710-- + + + +--===============1854995847== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1854995847==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:05:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8B43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:05:56 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35842 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnDN-000115-Eu + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:05:53 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGUm-0000ud-2Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:09:40 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMGUk-0000tX-0Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:09:39 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44704 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMGUj-0000t4-Kn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:09:37 -0400 +Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.191]:16407) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMGUi-0006Cp-Jn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:09:36 -0400 +Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so5136937mue.6 + for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:09:34 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=DjBGwLkVOGwkdZdFMAdnqUU3KPRUt3Ddb2XsF6oB0Bg=; + b=dZCO860yAvh3Ur4vARY1OJ5uKgbau8xqSdkmqIb5BdRGsOOShXWFbNrmqGYh/JZWO0 + EmoPP8qe2QXLQIoLHvmwdWdwcyQGXGRQgdGcCqlhICFuU9bP0jMM2ZnFO1VGtdBSmM9u + mbqOsXH0NqLbemGoc0osmPG+kn0BndEjOHM6I= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=LKF171v9/EII4BX5Dyx354CW1Ky8bU/c4RwQfZhF8bDh9ZrtozufQnZ/jx2uE9bBYE + bbLbN5urcrOsyuhjFGrsiWVEBJpoJx+oe3cPUw6Wnew6MVTRIAjc1jlVebY+ipIJd1MW + VNZrap2SBK2Cutx3oR6oAIh6LEtnyvI37Ki5c= +Received: by 10.103.214.8 with SMTP id r8mr738139muq.64.1216966174185; + Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:09:34 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.102.247.9 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:09:34 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <75586370807242309y5e6712b2v486fe448fe7e3c0e@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:09:34 -0500 +From: "Joe Zbiciak" +To: "Micah Cowan" , screen-users@gnu.org, + "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" +In-Reply-To: <75586370807242306p452f77e8m9201306dc73bf37@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <75586370807242306p452f77e8m9201306dc73bf37@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:29 -0400 +Cc: +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1131 +Lines: 47 + +On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Joe Zbiciak wrote: +> +> This may be a silly question, but how does "screen" decide that the +> attaching terminal supports capturing mouse events? It could be that +> nano says it's interested, but screen thinks they're not available. +> +> I'm no expert in the screen code base, but is this where? +> +> if (InStr(D_termname, "xterm") || InStr(D_termname, "rxvt")) +> D_CXT = 1; + +I should add that I say this due to this code elsewhere: + +void +MouseMode(mode) +int mode; +{ + if (display && D_mouse != mode) + { + char mousebuf[20]; + if (!D_CXT) + return; + if (D_mouse) + { + sprintf(mousebuf, "\033[?%dl", D_mouse); + AddStr(mousebuf); + } + if (mode) + { + sprintf(mousebuf, "\033[?%dh", mode); + AddStr(mousebuf); + } + D_mouse = mode; + } +} + + +-- +We sell spatulas, and that's all! +http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/ +http://spacepatrol.info/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:06:43 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A643BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:06:42 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36239 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnE7-0001eI-Vs + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:06:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMNnW-00015Q-K3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:30 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMNnV-00014u-Jc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:29 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39562 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMNnT-00014J-Sd; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:27 -0400 +Received: from saeurebad.de ([85.214.36.134]:52126) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMNnS-0003BT-IO; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:57:27 -0400 +Received: by saeurebad.de (Postfix, from userid 107) + id 168612F0046; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:57:25 +0200 (CEST) +Received: from localhost (83-221-69-159.dynamic.primacom.net [83.221.69.159]) + by saeurebad.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ECFA2F0006; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:57:24 +0200 (CEST) +From: Johannes Weiner +To: Screen development +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> <4888F32D.8070701@cowan.name> + +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:57:01 +0200 +In-Reply-To: (Mark Eichin's + message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:54:45 -0400") +Message-ID: <87zlo612z6.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.3 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:29 -0400 +Cc: Micah Cowan , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 739 +Lines: 24 + +Mark Eichin writes: + +> Micah Cowan writes: +> +>> Micah Cowan wrote: +>>> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much +>>> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability +>> +>> Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; +>> "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits the bill. +> +> Combined with wicos.el (or one of the more modern versions, escreen I +> think?) you get the switch-screens-in-this-window part too. The thing +> you probably don't get is talks-to-serial-ports :-) + +M-x serial-term + + Hannes + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:07:26 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E8243BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:07:26 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36632 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnEp-0002Tb-7Q + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:07:23 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMSnV-0000GE-T3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMSnU-0000Fk-IU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48473 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMSnU-0000Ff-7u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:48 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.238]:63714) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMSnT-0003Hb-5D + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:47 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so2556186wra.14 + for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=bCdjVVXJSAW1/HtT/yTZT5+XluZgeLIlrqW2RnSI6jY=; + b=UA7/oY2MTclqJ+tsVioAS9OU1BewlS1g+k7X2jbS/VwfNSGNg7chtVq9jlQQSKtWkm + 5rtbRsFZviHzeiGbmNZkTVhodAGc7mu89s+/+meYRxP2AtY1HCxmQ54mubwkJLeCNsmD + s/NvvKq55keX1BrDQIiitydTXutJkBEa8InxQ= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=elf5pRympeHVwyJyhR4fg9Fo1j+mVZr3+s+7XVlRKsO5goDZSsg/61+KP2tyeKr27q + iK4mgG/QKHInd4+yORpRRRo8AtM6WfrNjNt1d3eNI3XgCZ5QiJuTK3dLkNyEpUnp7epp + bpQWFu3b6a8cia4llXXTrsPNUVoWI/BQxDbzw= +Received: by 10.90.115.6 with SMTP id n6mr2640667agc.3.1217013465489; + Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.92.9 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:17:45 -0400 +From: James +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:01:28 -0400 +Subject: order of flags +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 603 +Lines: 25 + +hello, +just wanted to know why the following command gives: + +$ screen -RRx +There is no screen to be attached. + +whereas typing: + +$ screen -xRR + +gives a new screen session. (or attaches to an existing one with multiuser mode) + +at the moment i'm using the second command as my "always run screen +like this" favorite... + +wasn't sure if this was a bug or a weirdism of screen. +let me know your thoughts or i should be doing something differently, thanks. + +_J + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:34:24 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C973343BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:34:24 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49095 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnev-0005ho-Kh + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:34:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMndz-0005Iq-1V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:33:23 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMndv-0005Dz-Ca + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:33:22 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33592 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMndv-0005Di-5n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:33:19 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail06.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.70]:33536 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMndu-00020s-8q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:33:18 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.85.206]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 23408865-1927428 + for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:03:11 +0930 (CST) +Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:33:09 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080726173302.GA16310@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> + <4888D2FA.7040702@cowan.name> + + <4888F12E.3020209@cowan.name> <4888F32D.8070701@cowan.name> + <87tzee51l5.fsf@saeurebad.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <87tzee51l5.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 653 +Lines: 18 + +On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:01:10AM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote: +>> "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits the bill. +> Only a dumb terminal, though :( +> http://hannes.saeurebad.de/images/no-recursive-emacs.png + +M-x term is not the same as M-x shell. The former provides VT220 (or +thereabouts) emulation; the latter provides dumb terminal emulator (on +top of which is layered the standard Emacs buffer interaction +mechanisms). + +Emacs is off-topic for this list, let's all go back to focusing on +Screen. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:46:58 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A18743BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:58 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48040 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnr5-0004cN-9Q + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:55 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnqm-0004bn-13 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:36 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnqj-0004bb-NC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:34 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48958 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMnqj-0004bY-G5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:33 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail08.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.72]:35802 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KMnqi-0004SQ-OG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:46:33 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.85.206]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 23437872-1927428 + for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:16:26 +0930 (CST) +Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:46:24 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080726174622.GB16310@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080724160004.GC26150@localdomain> <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <87r69j5kju.fsf@saeurebad.de> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1452 +Lines: 32 + +On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 06:11:33PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote: +>> * What about the bloat? +> Screw the bloat, there are larger full-blown window managers around :-) + +I don't think that the existence of bloat in *some* solutions for an +unrelated problem domain is an excuse to add bloat to Screen. Or are +you specifically referring to bloated window managers for the tty? + +Note that I don't believe replacing the existing, limited +domain-specific language (DSL) used in ^A: and .screenrc with an +embedded general-purpose language will *necessarily* add bloat. + +Using a third-party language would (hopefully) reduce the amount of +code that the Screen developers need to maintain, as well as the +obvious benefit to users of having more customizability. + +> The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a +> powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this +> language. + +I'd certainly like the *core* of Screen to remain in C, or some other +language for which an efficient optimizing compiler exists. I don't +mind if extra bits (for example, the code to turn the window data into +a string for %w) was converted to a language that's interpreted +on-the-fly. Separation of "core" from "extra wank that users insist +on" might also reduce the burden on the Screen maintainers. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 13:54:17 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D3F43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:54:16 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51174 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMny8-0007BT-T7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:54:12 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnxs-0007BE-3D + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMnxq-0007B2-Fz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45905 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMnxq-0007Az-D6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:54 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50977) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMnxq-0005eE-2E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:53:54 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-227-16-233.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.227.16.233]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EEB3C8A932; + Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:53:52 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <488B64B4.9060100@cowan.name> +Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:53:56 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Joe Zbiciak +References: <75586370807242306p452f77e8m9201306dc73bf37@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <75586370807242306p452f77e8m9201306dc73bf37@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Two little features (and a bounty?) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 988 +Lines: 36 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Joe Zbiciak wrote: +> Micah, +> +> This may be a silly question, but how does "screen" decide that the +> attaching terminal supports capturing mouse events? It could be that +> nano says it's interested, but screen thinks they're not available. +> +> I'm no expert in the screen code base, but is this where? +> +> if (InStr(D_termname, "xterm") || InStr(D_termname, "rxvt")) +> D_CXT = 1; + +Yes indeed. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIi2S07M8hyUobTrERAvzbAKCKIeCN6j/zCE7TS6Bd2B5D3pFGvgCfaNEi +1ErIMI4HvKzRMslUEZxX2Dg= +=EtcN +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 14:34:05 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D0D43BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:34:04 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56650 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMoad-0005OF-EN + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMoaM-0005O1-Gg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:42 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMoaK-0005NY-AQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42152 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMoaK-0005NV-5N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:40 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:54677) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMoaJ-0002Xo-SU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:33:39 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-227-16-233.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.227.16.233]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09763C8A932; + Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:33:38 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <488B6E07.6050409@cowan.name> +Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:33:43 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: James +References: +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: order of flags +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1979 +Lines: 80 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +James wrote: +> hello, +> just wanted to know why the following command gives: +> +> $ screen -RRx +> There is no screen to be attached. +> +> whereas typing: +> +> $ screen -xRR +> +> gives a new screen session. (or attaches to an existing one with multiuser mode) +> +> at the moment i'm using the second command as my "always run screen +> like this" favorite... +> +> wasn't sure if this was a bug or a weirdism of screen. +> let me know your thoughts or i should be doing something differently, thanks. + +Looking at the code: + +... + case 'r': + case 'R': +#ifdef MULTI + case 'x': +#endif + if (ac > 1 && *av[1] != '-' && !SockMatch) + { + SockMatch = *++av; + ac--; + debug2("rflag=%d, SockMatch=%s\n", dflag, SockMatch); + } +#ifdef MULTI + if (*ap == 'x') + xflag = 1; +#endif + if (rflag) + rflag = 2; + rflag += (*ap == 'R') ? 2 : 1; + break; +... + +It appears that -x always includes the functionality of specifying -r; so + screen -RRx +is the same as + screen -xRr +In both versions, rflag ends up at 3, whereas with + screen -xRR +rflag ends up at 4, just like -RR. + +I don't know enough about rflag to know the full meaning of this. I'm +not certain what was intended, but I'm guessing -x was intended to imply +- -r on its own, but messing with existing -r/-R combos wasn't intentional. + +I've filed an issue for this at +https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?23939 + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIi24H7M8hyUobTrERAlfaAKCFdjjpUZDL9XIXWH6YhZCDYm6wawCdHqvD +udn1TmlzNmeOrACvyRyAAhs= +=LAb8 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 15:05:15 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10C243BCDD + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:05:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45752 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMp4q-0000dj-Mo + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:05:12 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMp4P-0000Zn-8z + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:04:45 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KMp4N-0000Z8-Qw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:04:44 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48810 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KMp4N-0000Z4-Iq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:04:43 -0400 +Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.226]:64406) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KMp4N-0006sP-64 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:04:43 -0400 +Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c30so3168710wra.14 + for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:04:42 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=JA7iZmGP9j8U6dAZXKNiCvNWcWfhe25FE4FBXrxLQqA=; + b=iic/NcAZhQb0fLBLz8AcPyfAFxpN5K1zEoXcpgHyJfD4Mn8H0bPhFSS7js0ad0ee1M + OP9Is0/1K7gt5FIhHJ9kTH3NaBXkKEyveXGZtNTrRoO7jgH5xcIJHD8TIliDR1FZ3ZUh + 222AeHcIFa1Q4DlQ3wvcn14N6e1AVW2sdp9nI= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=DlHQntoZ6gEGNlhqEv8Q2JtS/741WkXN6E4qrM9NKqNpjrstkV0PiBwW8xWlRbVazp + C2Yv8kGN5Z1Ee9wqzVwMneVTfr6PWlJg4mSuCJk5ICgnda/DCyo7N8mmreA5U8JnKJBA + lvUbYN+heLiGedE4qps9RRzaY+mgrf3lKnoGQ= +Received: by 10.90.56.5 with SMTP id e5mr4388000aga.80.1217099082332; + Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:04:42 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.90.92.9 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:04:42 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:04:42 -0400 +From: James +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <488B6E07.6050409@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: + <488B6E07.6050409@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: order of flags +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2535 +Lines: 89 + +cool! thanks for the research-- it's the best reply i've gotten in a while! +cheers, + +_J + +On 7/26/08, Micah Cowan wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> +> James wrote: +> > hello, +> > just wanted to know why the following command gives: +> > +> > $ screen -RRx +> > There is no screen to be attached. +> > +> > whereas typing: +> > +> > $ screen -xRR +> > +> > gives a new screen session. (or attaches to an existing one with multiuser mode) +> > +> > at the moment i'm using the second command as my "always run screen +> > like this" favorite... +> > +> > wasn't sure if this was a bug or a weirdism of screen. +> > let me know your thoughts or i should be doing something differently, thanks. +> +> +> Looking at the code: +> +> ... +> case 'r': +> case 'R': +> #ifdef MULTI +> case 'x': +> #endif +> if (ac > 1 && *av[1] != '-' && !SockMatch) +> { +> SockMatch = *++av; +> ac--; +> debug2("rflag=%d, SockMatch=%s\n", dflag, SockMatch); +> } +> #ifdef MULTI +> if (*ap == 'x') +> xflag = 1; +> #endif +> if (rflag) +> rflag = 2; +> rflag += (*ap == 'R') ? 2 : 1; +> break; +> ... +> +> It appears that -x always includes the functionality of specifying -r; so +> screen -RRx +> is the same as +> screen -xRr +> In both versions, rflag ends up at 3, whereas with +> screen -xRR +> rflag ends up at 4, just like -RR. +> +> I don't know enough about rflag to know the full meaning of this. I'm +> not certain what was intended, but I'm guessing -x was intended to imply +> - -r on its own, but messing with existing -r/-R combos wasn't intentional. +> +> I've filed an issue for this at +> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?23939 +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer, +> and GNU Wget Project Maintainer. +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFIi24H7M8hyUobTrERAlfaAKCFdjjpUZDL9XIXWH6YhZCDYm6wawCdHqvD +> udn1TmlzNmeOrACvyRyAAhs= +> =LAb8 +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Jul 27 16:21:06 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81DB733F0D + for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:21:06 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45266 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNCjk-0000qa-V9 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:21:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNCeW-0001aw-OC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:15:36 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNCeV-0001Yr-FV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:15:36 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48691 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNCeV-0001YS-7w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:15:35 -0400 +Received: from lakepoint.domeneshop.no ([194.63.248.54]:50143) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KNCeV-0002XZ-5v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:15:35 -0400 +Received: from sunbase.org (98.84-49-225.nextgentel.com [84.49.225.98]) + (authenticated bits=0) + by lakepoint.domeneshop.no (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6RIw8oM028623 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) + for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:58:11 +0200 +Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:58:08 +0200 +From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=98yvind_A=2E?= Holm +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080727185808.GM2203@sunbase.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +OpenPGP: id=94A506E5; url=http://www.sunbase.org/pubkey.asc +X-Request-PGP: http://www.sunbase.org/pubkey.asc +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 +Subject: Read-only windows +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1349677913==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1760 +Lines: 61 + + +--===============1349677913== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6THr7QwYWIbrk6Kt" +Content-Disposition: inline + + +--6THr7QwYWIbrk6Kt +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Is there any way to make a certain window "read only", i.e. display=20 +output, but ignore any keystrokes? A farfetched example of this use is=20 +windows containing long-running jobs I won=E2=80=99t interrupt if I happen = +to=20 +accidentally press CTRL-C. The closest thing I=E2=80=99ve found is [cmd]-x,= + but=20 +I=E2=80=99m not interested in password protection of the whole thing, only = +make=20 +certain windows ignore any keyboard input. + +Regards, +=C3=98yvind + ++-| =C3=98yvind A. 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I have = +the=20 +same problem that Dan Mahoney has. + +Prints one line of text +Form feed (Page feed) +Prints one line of text +Form feed......... + +Please help! + +Dan Mahoney wrote: +>> 1) Make printing work. =A0And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +>> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +>> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +>> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. + + +--Boundary-00=_iHajINU6ccu/icU +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--Boundary-00=_iHajINU6ccu/icU-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 28 07:08:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF88439BB0 + for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53046 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNQam-0006FI-IA + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNQaW-0006F1-By + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNQaU-0006Eb-Sh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42028 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNQaU-0006EY-PH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:22 -0400 +Received: from [196.15.201.201] (port=35331 helo=relay.gwk.co.za) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KNQaQ-0000MC-93 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:08:22 -0400 +Received: from [192.9.200.67] (pc-9-200-67 [192.9.200.67]) + by relay.gwk.co.za (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m6SAFPI5005030 + for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:15:30 +0200 +From: Albert van Zyl +Organization: GWK +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:16:31 +0200 +User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="iso-8859-1" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline +Message-Id: <200807281216.31143.albert@gwk.co.za> +X-MXID: m6SAFPI5005030 +X-Scanned-By: MailXServer-v4.5a on 192.168.1.20 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Two little features (printing) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 659 +Lines: 25 + +It would be GREAT if printing (print through) in Screen could work. I have = +the=20 +same problem that Dan Mahoney has. + +Prints one line of text +Form feed (Page feed) +Prints one line of text +Form feed......... + +Please help! + +Dan Mahoney wrote: +>> 1) Make printing work. =A0And by that I mean make it work JUST as it +>> would work without screen, i.e. not "buffer" and send a bunch of +>> printer stop/start sequences every 30 characters -- many SSH +>> applications interpret that stop sequence as a page feed. + + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 28 07:46:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD7D4395BA + for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43757 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNRBW-0001kf-1F + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNRBE-0001kO-PL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:20 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNRBD-0001kC-8p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:19 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38284 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNRBD-0001k9-3J + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:19 -0400 +Received: from nwmailserver.hsbc.co.uk ([193.108.75.62]:25914 + helo=04.mail.hsbc.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KNRBC-0006XD-HH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:19 -0400 +Received: from ([172.20.32.105]) + by 04.mail.hsbc.co.uk with ESMTP id KP-ARHGZ.64373310; + Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:44:19 0100 +In-Reply-To: +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.0.1CF3 July 29, 2003 +Message-ID: +From: asvin.dattani@hsbcib.com +Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:21:23 +0100 +X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEA-SMTP-03/SERVERS/HSBC at 28/07/2008 + 12:45:23, Serialize complete at 28/07/2008 12:45:23 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +Subject: Re: Fwd: Two little features (printing) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1070009074==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 13023 +Lines: 269 + +This is a multipart message in MIME format. + +--===============1070009074== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="=_alternative 003E624780257494_=" + +This is a multipart message in MIME format. + +--=_alternative 003E624780257494_= +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="US-ASCII" + +Hi, + +I've been hesitating in replying to this point, because I am no C +programmer. But I faced the same problem with printing and made these +changes to the ansi.c module (I have version 4.0.2 so your line numbering +may be different), which seems to have fixed the issue: + + +0429: case 'i': +0430: if (!printcmd) <---- added this line + +0431: AddCStr(D_PF); <---- added this line +0432: curr->w_state = LIT; +0433: PrintFlush(); +0434: if (curr->w_pdisplay && curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd >= 0) +0435: { +0436: close(curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd); +0437: curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd = -1; +0438: } +0439: curr->w_pdisplay = 0; +0440: break; + + +1601: curr->w_pdisplay = display; +1602: curr->w_stringp = curr->w_string; +1603: curr->w_state = PRIN; +1604: if (printcmd && curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd < 0) +1605: curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd = printpipe(curr, printcmd); +1606: else <---- added this line + +1607: AddCStr(D_PO); <---- added this line + +1608: } +1609: + +1642: else if (display && curr->w_stringp > curr->w_string) +1643: { +1644: /* AddCStr(D_PO); */ <---- commented out this line + +1645: AddStrn(curr->w_string, curr->w_stringp - curr->w_string); +1646: /* AddCStr(D_PF); */ <----- commented out this +line +1647: Flush(); +1648: } + + +hth, + +asvin + + +p.s. + +Sorry Albert - I inadvertently sent this mail to you when I wanted to send +it to the whole list.... + +************************************************************ +HSBC Bank plc may be solicited in the course of its placement efforts for +a new issue, by investment clients of the firm for whom the Bank as a firm +already provides other services. 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Hi, +
+
I've been hesitating in replying to this point, because +I am no C programmer. But I faced the same problem with printing and made +these changes to the ansi.c module (I have version 4.0.2 so your line numbering +may be different), which seems to have fixed the issue: +
+
+
0429:       case 'i':     +                      +                      +  +
0430: if (!printcmd)           +                +        <---- added this line   +                      +                      +  +
0431:  AddCStr(D_PF);         +            <---- added this line   +                      +      +
0432:         curr->w_state += LIT;                     +                  +
0433:         PrintFlush();   +                      +                    +
0434:         if (curr->w_pdisplay +&& curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd >= 0) +
0435:           {   +                      +                      +        +
0436:             close(curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd); +                  +
0437:             curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd += -1;                     + +
0438:           }   +                      +                      +        +
0439:         curr->w_pdisplay += 0;                     +                +
0440:         break;     +                      +                +
+
+
1601:   curr->w_pdisplay = display;   +                      +            +
1602:   curr->w_stringp = curr->w_string; +                      +        +
1603:   curr->w_state = PRIN;     +                      +                +
1604:   if (printcmd && curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd +< 0)                 +
1605:     curr->w_pdisplay->d_printfd += printpipe(curr, printcmd);       +
1606:  else           +                  +            <---- added +this line                   +                      +    +
1607:  AddCStr(D_PO);         +                +   <---- added this line         +                      +                +
1608: }             +                      +                      +        +
1609:               +                      +                      +        +
+
1642:   else if (display && curr->w_stringp +> curr->w_string)               +  +
1643:     {         +                      +                      +              +
1644: /*      AddCStr(D_PO); */   +          <---- commented out this +line                     +                    +
1645:       AddStrn(curr->w_string, +curr->w_stringp - curr->w_string);       +
1646: /*      AddCStr(D_PF); */   +                <----- +commented out this line               +                      +      +
1647:       Flush();     +                      +                      +        +
1648:     }         +              +
+
+
hth, +
+
asvin +
+
+
p.s. +
+
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+X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 862 +Lines: 33 + +Hey all, + +Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under +screen, for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to view +an attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file in MC)... + +I'm not asking if this functionality exists in those programs, but if +there's a simple way of implementing it (i.e. if the calls exist, etc). + +-Dan Mahoney + +-- + +"If you aren't going to try something, then we might as well just be +friends." + +"We can't have that now, can we?" + +-SK & Dan Mahoney, December 9, 1998 + +--------Dan Mahoney-------- +Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek +Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC +ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM +Site: http://www.gushi.org +--------------------------- + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Jul 28 22:36:27 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99573DF73 + for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:27 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45711 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNf4Z-0001FS-4p + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:23 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNf4F-0001F6-VB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:04 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNf4D-0001ES-PD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33891 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNf4D-0001EP-HX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:01 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail06.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.70]:39650 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KNf4C-0003dq-Tz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:36:01 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 23615657-1927428 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:05:53 +0930 (CST) +Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:35:52 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080729023549.GA3723@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1295 +Lines: 29 + +On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:10:18PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under +> screen, for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to +> view an attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file +> in MC)... +> +> I'm not asking if this functionality exists in those programs, but +> if there's a simple way of implementing it (i.e. if the calls exist, +> etc). + +There is: have your program run "screen foo" to start the app "foo" on +a new screen window. Because $STY is set within screen, your +invocation "screen foo" creates a new window instead of a new session. + +Unfortunately, this use case for screen is horribly broken if you want +to create the new window from within a script (e.g. an Emacs key +binding), because "screen foo" still checks if there is a controlling +terminal -- even though in this case it doesn't need one. I get +around this by instead running "xterm -e screen foo", which causes a +second xterm to pop up for a second. This is a really evil and +unpleasant kludge, and it makes me sad. + +Further reading: http://bugs.debian.org/461107 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 29 12:14:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF3343AFF3 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58692 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNrqF-0003Uy-Fz + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNrpu-0003Uj-Vc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNrpt-0003UR-Ff + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35516 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNrpt-0003UN-C9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:05 -0400 +Received: from a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:41986 + helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KNrpt-0003Hz-64 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:05 -0400 +Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2ED4127F + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:35 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from aragorn.aperiodic.net (c-69-250-40-52.hsd1.md.comcast.net + [69.250.40.52]) by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with + ESMTPA id 1A8794127E for ; + Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:34 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from mithrandir.aperiodic.net (mithrandir.aperiodic.net + [192.168.1.192]) by aragorn.aperiodic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id + 59F25182F380 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:34 -0400 + (EDT) +Received: by mithrandir.aperiodic.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id + 4F7A2F01B; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:34 -0400 (EDT) +Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:13:34 -0400 +From: Phil! Gregory +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080729161334.GC32300@aperiodic.net> +Mail-Followup-To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 4BA7FB82-5D89-11DD-9521-3113EBD4C077-55963132!a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 968 +Lines: 24 + +* Dan Mahoney, System Admin [2008-07-28 22:10 -0400]: +> Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under +> screen, for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to view +> an attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file in MC)... + +I believe BitchX can do this, although its multiwindow code is pretty +buggy in its own right. You could probably get some ideas on how to +implement it yourself from looking at the BitchX source code, though. + +-- +...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ +PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 +--- -- +I can just see it now: nomination-terrorism ;-) + -- Manoj +haha! i nominate manoj. + -- seeS +---- --- -- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Jul 29 12:38:51 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DE573E304 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41778 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNsDn-0001Sz-3H + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:47 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNsDQ-0001Rg-LB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KNsDO-0001Mk-5X + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34097 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KNsDO-0001MY-1q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:22 -0400 +Received: from sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com ([192.18.43.25]:35538) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KNsDN-0006c8-Jz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:21 -0400 +Received: from dm-east-01.east.sun.com ([129.148.9.192]) + by sca-ea-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id + m6TGc4gk007510 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:38:14 GMT +Received: from sr1-ubur-06.east.sun.com (sr1-ubur-06.East.Sun.COM + [129.148.9.86]) + by dm-east-01.east.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/ENSMAIL, + v2.2) with ESMTP id m6TGc3Ua017898 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from sr1-ubur-06.east.sun.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by sr1-ubur-06.east.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id + m6TGc3kL018853 + for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: (from em162155@localhost) + by sr1-ubur-06.east.sun.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id + m6TGc3bn018851 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:03 -0400 (EDT) +X-Authentication-Warning: sr1-ubur-06.east.sun.com: em162155 set sender to + ethan.mallove@sun.com using -f +Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:03 -0400 +From: Ethan Mallove +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080729163803.GA47982@sun.com> +Mail-Followup-To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Can a frozen Screen be revived? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1149 +Lines: 36 + +Hi, + +My screen has frozen. Is there a way to defibrillate it? + + $ pstack 31472 + 31472: screen -S mutt -c /home/emallove/.screenrc-temp + ff145f60 write (5, 231a9a8, 9fcf) + 0006238c FinitTerm (8f3f0, 1, 18d40, 30af0, 30800, 0) + 32c + 00016438 Detach (2, 2f31, 8f3f0, 2f313230, 80808080, 4) + 38 + 000306c8 ReceiveMsg (89ee0, 0, 18d40, 30af0, 30800, 8f3f0) + 7e8 + 000695b4 sched (89704, 89000, 74400, f4240, 88800, 88800) + 334 + 0001c0b4 main (0, 8c000, 18c00, fffffff6, 18c00, 89ee0) + 2674 + 00015d1c _start (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 5c + +Based on the above stack trace, does anyone have an idea of +what is going on? + +In this thread, someone advised to do "screen -x ", +and wait 15 minutes. I tried that, but screen -x has been +hanging for about an hour. + + http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-users/2008-07/msg00037.html + + $ screen -v + Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03 + $ uname -a + SunOS ... 5.10 Generic_127111-07 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T200 + +Thanks, +Ethan + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Jul 31 14:14:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565D843AFDC + for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:14:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60321 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOcfe-0001up-LM + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:14:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOcem-0001bx-86 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:13:44 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOcej-0001aG-AK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:13:43 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56299 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOcej-0001Zz-0Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:13:41 -0400 +Received: from ultra.bl.org ([66.219.34.12]:50149) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KOcei-0002iB-SJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:13:41 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by ultra.bl.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m6VIDQDq001469 + for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:13:26 -0500 (CDT) +Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:13:26 -0500 (CDT) +From: Michael Parson +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: +Message-ID: +References: +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (NEB 962 2008-03-14) +X-Marks-The-Spot: --->X +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (ultra.bl.org [0.0.0.0]); Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:13:26 -0500 (CDT) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 851 +Lines: 29 + +On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: + +> Hey all, +> +> Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under screen, +> for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to view an +> attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file in MC)... + +I know the links web browser (not lynx), can open a link in a new screen +window. Looking at ps output, it looks like it runs another instance of +links, so it probably does the equiv of + +:screen links $newurl + +> I'm not asking if this functionality exists in those programs, but if there's +> a simple way of implementing it (i.e. if the calls exist, etc). +> +> -Dan Mahoney + +-- +Michael Parson +mparson@bl.org + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 1 13:46:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EA373DC1A + for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:46:53 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55033 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOyiF-0004SW-U2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:46:47 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOyhx-0004S6-ON + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:46:29 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KOyhu-0004Rs-Th + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:46:29 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53523 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOyhu-0004Rn-NK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:46:26 -0400 +Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.40]:56521) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KOyhu-00076o-8U + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:46:26 -0400 +Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de + (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.77]) + by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C873D5F0E9; + Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:46:18 +0200 (MEST) +Received: (from jnweiger@localhost) + by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.3/8.1.6-FAU) id TAA01564; + Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:46:18 +0200 (MEST) +Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:46:18 +0200 +From: Juergen Weigert +To: Michael Parson +Message-ID: <20080801174618.GC23749@faui40p> +References: + +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D47675A +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: jw@cs.fau.de +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1787 +Lines: 48 + +On Jul 31, 08 13:13:26 -0500, Michael Parson wrote: +> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +> +> >Hey all, +> > +> >Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under +> >screen, for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to view +> >an attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file in MC)... + +man screen says: +[...] new windows can be created by running a command like: + + screen emacs prog.c + +from a shell prompt within a previously created window. This will not run +another copy of screen, but will instead supply the command name and its +arguments to the window manager (specified in the $STY environment +variable) who will use it to create the new window. The above example +would start the emacs editor (editing prog.c) and switch to its window. + + +> I know the links web browser (not lynx), can open a link in a new screen +> window. Looking at ps output, it looks like it runs another instance of +> links, so it probably does the equiv of +> +> :screen links $newurl +> +> >I'm not asking if this functionality exists in those programs, but if +> >there's a simple way of implementing it (i.e. if the calls exist, etc). + +The answer is yes. +Although it is not the API call you may now want to implement, It is +a simple command line call. + + cheers, + Jw. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 5 11:00:02 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57835A60F + for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:00:01 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52354 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQO0z-00045S-I0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:57 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQO0c-00040S-4d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:34 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQO0b-0003yc-7M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:33 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56258 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQO0a-0003yK-Q0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:33 -0400 +Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:53939) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQO0a-0003KD-8u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:59:32 -0400 +Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Aug 2008 14:59:29 -0000 +Received: from p57B7DAAA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO blacktrash.org) + [87.183.218.170] + by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 05 Aug 2008 16:59:29 +0200 +X-Authenticated: #11198714 +X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19GjXMBpClGkZ8uSsH11nzFdHqViOWebjMxGtVjwR + vY2QDrn4zqgiKL +Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:59:21 +0200 +From: Christian Ebert +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080805145921.GB1991@krille.blacktrash.org> +Mail-Followup-To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: + <20080729023549.GA3723@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +In-Reply-To: <20080729023549.GA3723@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +Organization: Black Trash Productions +X-Face: )&#alA:[x"-#%%./(nuC&8n;#gqM;=mfY&ivRz@Gnv|AD_0l1Uz{fnJ^BW~OX[d;/)z! yV +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-07-21) +X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 +X-FuHaFi: 0.61 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1609 +Lines: 38 + +* Trent W. Buck on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 at 12:35:52 +1000 +> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:10:18PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: +>> Is there ANY implementation at all, for when an app is running under +>> screen, for it to be able to launch a "new window" (for example, to +>> view an attachment in pine, to start a /query in irc, to view a file +>> in MC)... +>> +>> I'm not asking if this functionality exists in those programs, but +>> if there's a simple way of implementing it (i.e. if the calls exist, +>> etc). +> +> There is: have your program run "screen foo" to start the app "foo" on +> a new screen window. Because $STY is set within screen, your +> invocation "screen foo" creates a new window instead of a new session. +> +> Unfortunately, this use case for screen is horribly broken if you want +> to create the new window from within a script (e.g. an Emacs key +> binding), because "screen foo" still checks if there is a controlling +> terminal -- even though in this case it doesn't need one. I get +> around this by instead running "xterm -e screen foo", which causes a +> second xterm to pop up for a second. This is a really evil and +> unpleasant kludge, and it makes me sad. + +I might be wrong, but it sounds like you could achieve this with: +"screen -X screen foo". + +c +-- + Was heißt hier Dogma, ich bin Underdogma! +[ What the hell do you mean dogma, I am underdogma. ] + +_F R E E_ _V I D E O S_ -->> http://www.blacktrash.org/underdogma/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 5 11:40:35 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9907B52810A + for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:40:35 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44358 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQOeE-0006B3-Uw + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:40:31 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQOdq-000681-M0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:40:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQOdp-00067T-9T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:40:05 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60972 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQOdp-00067M-4D + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:40:05 -0400 +Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.157]:38494) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQOdo-0002J8-T4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:40:05 -0400 +Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so198192yxf.66 + for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=Vh7KpRFbkB5rhXK+bpYAVdAbhK9ek+dbr0ICs996a6I=; + b=Q4KnQimcSXEOwysFZlFNsF1FjOsvLgpAu90+uGLA9qF0ehHbj1GJEGKqxUy6UvzPvl + XddVclUDixI/3Tgc0P1AfHQoX6hlsXTauzPH26emZe6not+heCwvNXqF6zPnR1RWb2lH + Pg3lQD0TFgJwkvXdr1PVcpvEoIu6Ba8fPUQAE= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=KDo/6m+TBjvo9daQGo3MNRc/l9/pD9Cp4rsAK123Mf66vpktIrRRHFnNHXCD/YjhbI + SCRfBQKDgJh0+3/kJBhsZgy0wtYY04A0w8Dq0kJ+7qpgUn4bD+vHog/dOmX73yVcAHiu + 3YIUP780NicMqIo08ZAmEKP40D4OPk113vbeU= +Received: by 10.150.137.8 with SMTP id k8mr1633917ybd.87.1217950803691; + Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.151.158.10 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <111f7ec40808050840t521e4d9bmcd54353087c81fec@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:40:03 -0400 +From: "Jean-Yves Levesque" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Vertical Split and Window List +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 491 +Lines: 24 + +I do not know if this is an issue with my config +but when I run the vertical split with layouts and +I try to use the windowlist command (Ctrl-a ") I +get the following message: + +Window size too small for window list page + +then + +Width 2 chars too small + +Am i missing something? + +jy + +-- +Je ne parle qu'en mon nom. +I am only speaking for myself. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 5 12:32:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED262804A6 + for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:32:51 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37892 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQPSo-00047D-IJ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:32:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQPSW-000472-2y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:32:28 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQPSU-00046X-IS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:32:27 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43095 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQPSU-00046Q-8h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:32:26 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail11.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.75]:59501 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KQPSS-0002Tp-IG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:32:26 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.145.209]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 25899575-1927428 + for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:02:11 +0930 (CST) +Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:32:19 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080805163216.GA19102@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: + <20080729023549.GA3723@Clio.twb.ath.cx> + <20080805145921.GB1991@krille.blacktrash.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080805145921.GB1991@krille.blacktrash.org> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Apps creating new windows? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 417 +Lines: 12 + +On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 04:59:21PM +0200, Christian Ebert wrote: +> I might be wrong, but it sounds like you could achieve this with: +> "screen -X screen foo". + +The part where -X is incompatible with :password (in the bug report, +but not reproduced in the post itself). + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 5 17:03:12 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC7D5A60F + for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:03:12 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50490 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQTgQ-0007Bl-DN + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:03:06 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQTg9-0007Bg-5k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQTg6-0007BU-QG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:47 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44044 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQTg6-0007BR-K5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:46 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:46762) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQTg6-00067p-9f + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:46 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-195-160-42.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.195.160.42]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3163C9007E + for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:02:45 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <4898BFF8.3040905@cowan.name> +Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:02:48 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen Users +References: <4863D14E.70206@cowan.name> + <486BA876.7050903@cowan.name> +In-Reply-To: <486BA876.7050903@cowan.name> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] couple of mac building issues, patch for one +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2148 +Lines: 56 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Micah Cowan wrote: +> (My mailer is doing the quoting backwards again) +> +> Tom Scogland wrote: +>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Micah Cowan wrote: +>> Tom Scogland wrote: +>>>>> Hi, +>>>>> I've been a screen user for a few years on linux, but when switching +>>>>> to osx as my primary os not too long ago (long story...) I found the +>>>>> current development versions wont build. The issue was just a #ifdef +>>>>> that was checking the wrong item, patch attached. (sorry if this isn't +>>>>> the right place, given recent activity it seemed like the best idea) +>> The patch doesn't look appropriate to me. Perhaps an explicit header +>> check in configure.in would be better? +> +>>> Admittedly it might be, but the patch seemed appropriate as 'SVR4' +>>> rather than 'HAVE_SVR4_PTYS' is used to check all 3 other inclusions +>>> of that header. Thus my assumption was that it was a typo in pty.c +>>> that the wrong define was used, and thus a reasonable solution to make +>>> it match the 3 in process.c, screen.c and tty.c. +> +> You're right, of course: I was informed of this later, and sure enough, +> you're right. +> +> I like the direct check better, but I have to admit that "inappropriate" +> was a poor word to describe it. +> +> At least for the meantime, it's probably preferable to maintain +> consistency; we can always change it later. + +Fedora Core 9 apparently lacks , and of course changing +HAVE_SVR4_PTYS does them no good. So it sounds like we need to go with +the "right" fix for this (explicit check for headers) after all. + +- -- +Micah J. 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Screen appears to +be populating TERMCAP for me (correctly), as it's not defined when +outside of screen, but does exist inside. + +$ echo $TERMCAP|tr : \\n|egrep li\|co +li#62 +co#158 +$ env|grep 62\|158 +$ echo $? +1 + +I'm running screen under cygwin, using the latest version of cygwin, +the cygwin distro of screen, and the latest version of puttycyg as my +terminal. +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Aug 7 02:15:24 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691F9439E0D + for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:15:24 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48548 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQymM-0006Eb-U2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:15:18 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQym4-0006EP-GX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:15:00 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQym2-0006E5-SH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:15:00 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52601 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQym2-0006E1-Ok + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:14:58 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:37305) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQym2-0005HB-Dm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:14:58 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-195-160-42.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.195.160.42]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D383C9007E; + Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:14:56 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:14:56 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Aaron Davies +References: +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Getting screen size into the env? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1348 +Lines: 40 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Aaron Davies wrote: +> How do I get the screen size env vars set properly? Screen appears to +> be populating TERMCAP for me (correctly), as it's not defined when +> outside of screen, but does exist inside. + +There's nothing that ever sets env vars to the screen size. + +However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do + + $ export COLUMNS LINES + +to get them into the environment. Of course, if you're not running bash, +you may not have them at all; in which case you may need to parse them +out of the screen-supplied TERMCAP (which, unlike the bash vars, can't +be kept up-to-date when the window size changes). + +- -- +Micah J. 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Screen appears to +>> be populating TERMCAP for me (correctly), as it's not defined when +>> outside of screen, but does exist inside. +> +> There's nothing that ever sets env vars to the screen size. +> +> However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +> LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +> Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do +> +> $ export COLUMNS LINES +> +> to get them into the environment. Of course, if you're not running bash, +> you may not have them at all; in which case you may need to parse them +> out of the screen-supplied TERMCAP (which, unlike the bash vars, can't +> be kept up-to-date when the window size changes). + +Hmm, OK. I am running bash, at least according to /etc/passwd, though +$SHELL seems to be "sh". In any case, zsh seems to do it correctly on +my setup, and I prefer zsh anyway. +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Aug 7 03:11:24 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63057D89F7 + for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 03:11:24 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56264 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQzea-0006oL-Jk + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:11:20 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQzeJ-0006o6-Dc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:11:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQzeH-0006nu-1w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:11:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43147 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQzeG-0006nr-SW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:11:00 -0400 +Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:45410) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KQzeG-0000xr-Cv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:11:00 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172]) + by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQzeE-0006Oj-Fv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:10:58 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so264851wfc.24 + for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:10:56 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=tqER4QxqkXI36ZjRs+nWC67TWBaMRGcd3UlmmxKo7s8=; + b=jwpiDxrj11D9EkyPtLHJTc1+9y6+HLkFnDXAfno/kU0jSejW5uptfVU6vfoe03cJwV + CpLd+J9eOk5zKNHtbFYVWuKgRUvOHvovB5ZU+EzTiaa7149s0eDQL6KXHuNzt0VMn7HE + 4N4DhbtcGzR1v1c8QkCSsvhIQfF+wlr7DZ35c= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=aPu7Q3GVcAf3nhqtpcCaabgVX+boKiPKk/+WYZsYxjAwIQdStvHPGjPfK7bHkRisqJ + gJuekbde2jK5RbRP4vOGfg5ockz5AT63gJHLqU3N1fz0GRnkrdXXArV9fKDHy4HA2C+e + D6mKdq4M/QRFq5ySn9UtaOabNLIF5uzErRtIg= +Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr353118wfh.85.1218093056606; + Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:10:56 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 00:10:56 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808070010v367c8774yf329f00e4cdf9941@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:10:56 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: + <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Getting screen size into the env? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 498 +Lines: 18 + +2008/8/7 Micah Cowan : +> However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +> LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +> Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do +> +> $ export COLUMNS LINES + +Rather unportably between Unixes: + +eval $(resize) + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Aug 7 12:19:46 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057927D8BDA + for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:19:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44336 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KR8DE-0002Jm-UG + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:19:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KR8CY-0002Ew-3F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:58 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KR8CV-0002Ek-66 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:56 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39570 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KR8CU-0002Eh-VH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:54 -0400 +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]:40880) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KR8CU-00073x-Sd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:54 -0400 +Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4DD14C8086; + Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:18:53 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]) + by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) + with ESMTP id 10050-05; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:18:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from maneki-neko.metacarta.com (maneki-neko.metacarta.com + [208.80.142.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B093D14C808D; + Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:18:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from eichin by maneki-neko.metacarta.com with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KR8CT-0007pT-3u; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:53 -0400 +From: Mark Eichin +To: "Thomas Adam" +References: + <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808070010v367c8774yf329f00e4cdf9941@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:18:53 -0400 +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808070010v367c8774yf329f00e4cdf9941@mail.gmail.com> + (Thomas Adam's message of "Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:10:56 +0100") +Message-ID: +User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen Users +Subject: Re: Getting screen size into the env? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 908 +Lines: 28 + +"Thomas Adam" writes: + +> 2008/8/7 Micah Cowan : +>> However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +>> LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +>> Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do +>> +>> $ export COLUMNS LINES +> +> Rather unportably between Unixes: +> +> eval $(resize) + +resize requires having a terminal type that actually does xterm-style +answerback, which as at best a "maybe". + +What you *really* want is the output of stty: +$ stty -a |grep rows +speed 38400 baud; rows 56; columns 144; line = 0; + +because it's a property of the tty, and changed there - putting the +values in the environment is an old and not-really-workable hack. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Aug 7 15:15:59 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1325D7D8BD0 + for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:15:59 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53254 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRAxl-0003nT-J6 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:15:53 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRAxT-0003nE-Km + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:15:35 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRAxR-0003n2-39 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:15:34 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40402 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRAxQ-0003mz-Tb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:15:32 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:41143) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRAxR-0000vh-3w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:15:33 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010813C9007E + for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:15:31 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:15:31 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 685 +Lines: 25 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +FYI, the 4.0.3 sources are now also available at ftp.gnu.org, in +addition to the uni-erlangen.de site. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIm0nS7M8hyUobTrERAmJNAJ0TRRwbvkL7TdeEWI+1tdEakIMohQCfdlNQ +SVGbpzYmZmSQ9CAZdehVjyU= +=Ayfw +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 10:18:22 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2237427F9 + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:18:21 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36038 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRSnG-0004Ww-Lq + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:18:14 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRSmw-0004W2-7X + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:54 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRSmu-0004Ub-Mw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:53 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35361 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRSmu-0004UR-Ix + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:52 -0400 +Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.156]:32610) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRSmu-0006ro-5H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:17:52 -0400 +Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so198313yxf.66 + for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=rQzB8myKsCrXAG8WMkXbxbX+g+TtXePiUIncVkbA6K0=; + b=shaJRYNd8k/noIWhWiU1FvCEsEsAkkYemHQ2alUfs7sb+b4mhzJFyj6i4jE7IKWu7C + Cg7nd8OeihSrYRuNJ35iRIAdqLQBYmvuE/4IzxJzR1GeG8sh43qYmw1z3Te6MVaWW1EL + xboqRxm4ZtmfACpKPg+72QvAP323pEBGbnSq8= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=GPhJh/FWnzRKHEhJUHx3DeM5tvPsO8G3w1fPsNSnLACIvA9+W0dc5qUdE4LshiO8i6 + gdrQc+kZJ4tPn8C76rnOyZoq3cXbGEZ4YF0Y82wrXD6Z0gepyve76KhE5cRNyuFX23Oa + KvyuJpttG06x1OHtocHwZlSQHZqDcFsv08MeI= +Received: by 10.151.114.6 with SMTP id r6mr7384182ybm.84.1218205066061; + Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.150.138.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:17:46 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:17:46 -0400 +From: "Jean-Yves Levesque" +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 636 +Lines: 28 + +On 8/7/08, Micah Cowan wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> FYI, the 4.0.3 sources are now also available at ftp.gnu.org, in +> addition to the uni-erlangen.de site. +o + + Are they the sources including the vertical split or not? + + jy +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +> GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +> http://micah.cowan.name/ + + +-- +Je ne parle qu'en mon nom. +I am only speaking for myself. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 11:10:43 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900DA73E51A + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:10:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49997 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRTbw-0003B0-R6 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:10:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRTb5-0002O7-4R + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:43 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRTb2-0002KF-8S + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55971 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRTb2-0002K1-2K + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:40 -0400 +Received: from magnus.laznode.com ([72.51.41.93]:51885 helo=leela.laznode.com) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRTb1-0006tV-MK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:39 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by leela.laznode.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333F63805C; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:09:38 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from leela.laznode.com ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (magnus.laznode.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id IjpCAsJIvwYO; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:09:31 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from rai (rai [10.66.66.1]) + by leela.laznode.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F8C38059; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:09:31 +0000 (UTC) +Received: by rai (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id 7E49DDA81D9; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:09:31 +0000 (UTC) +Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:09:31 -0700 +From: Adam Lazur +To: Jean-Yves Levesque +Message-ID: <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Micah Cowan , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 432 +Lines: 16 + +Jean-Yves Levesque (jean.yves.levesque@gmail.com) said: +> Are they the sources including the vertical split or not? + +You could download the tarball and check if you're really interested... + +4.0.3 is the release from 2006, so no, it does not include vertical +split. + +-- +Adam Lazur + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 13:08:47 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A79771A2A + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:08:47 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40691 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRVSD-0001TQ-3C + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:08:41 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRVRv-0001S3-1K + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:08:23 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRVRt-0001P0-G3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52989 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRVRt-0001Or-AX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400 +Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.152]:13185) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRVRt-0007rI-0m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:08:21 -0400 +Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so240215yxf.66 + for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=d+XoZYrNWoKnn03qY+jbytET4D0+OWaJYbYjaQuaAg4=; + b=tELREtJhyma/N7lFQTtGpUW/uZXUDp2LU+8XweQLtdRiH37FeHvSRunTGAzi4lPPIU + VjRb8KIFfEUZUxjLwPxbpWS5q7nQ2GqyKbboB2RthQBx4Z44hUqj41N/QvX7SzpekX60 + UgnRmFfaNBy+DdYve91IsNG4dyBTN9KMrcc+Y= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=TMHvj9LH68/NWb6n1cYUMwl7rObv1VT2r18mKT+3hhzTfq2/J+8zXG1HIbCDFCwjEp + b1/6aOkLyA4xbBatahiT/gW/BdPTgZEn5FiFCS/UA3GdAnrnGdxG5MLdePEUH5pGYK0k + N7E8dMgYKdJpHjYwSw95qob2eO8PlVQxU1oec= +Received: by 10.150.197.8 with SMTP id u8mr2381099ybf.99.1218215300175; + Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.150.138.10 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:08:20 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:08:20 -0400 +From: "Jean-Yves Levesque" +To: "Adam Lazur" +In-Reply-To: <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Micah Cowan , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 719 +Lines: 28 + +I am probably more interested in knowing when the +next release (including the vertical split) would +be officially out (I am using the git version curretnly). + + +On 8/8/08, Adam Lazur wrote: +> Jean-Yves Levesque (jean.yves.levesque@gmail.com) said: +>> Are they the sources including the vertical split or not? +> +> You could download the tarball and check if you're really interested... +> +> 4.0.3 is the release from 2006, so no, it does not include vertical +> split. +> +> -- +> Adam Lazur +> + + +-- +Je ne parle qu'en mon nom. +I am only speaking for myself. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 15:09:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9617CAA1C + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:09:37 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58933 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRXLB-0001ZD-2T + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:09:33 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRXJ6-0008S3-GE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:07:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRXJ5-0008Qf-HB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:07:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48729 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRXJ5-0008QY-9F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:07:23 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50984) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRXJ5-0000we-84 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:07:23 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50413C900F4; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:07:21 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:20 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Jean-Yves Levesque +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> + <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2221 +Lines: 50 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Jean-Yves Levesque wrote: +> I am probably more interested in knowing when the +> next release (including the vertical split) would +> be officially out (I am using the git version curretnly). + +Yeah, that's why this was a very minor note, rather than a major +announcement. It's not so much a release announcement (which would also +have gone to info-gnu@gnu.org), as a note that the ftp.gnu.org (which is +intended to be the primary release site) is now less incomplete than it +was. :) + +I may be wrong, but I think we could be looking at a 4.1.0 release +around the turn of the year. Sadrul (especially) and I have been killing +bugs at a fairly quick rate, and we're down to about 20 bugs currently +being tracked against the 4.1.0 release (with more that have been marked +for later releases): +https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=screen&func=browse&set=custom&msort=1&custom_sb1[]=0&assigned_to[]=0&resolution_id[]=0&priority[]=0&severity[]=0&status_id[]=1&plan_release_id[]=101&release_id[]=0&details[]=&summary[]=&advsrch=1&msort=1&chunksz=50&spamscore=5&report_id=195&sumORdet=0&morder=priority%3C&sumOrdet=0&order=custom_sb1 + +I do expect that there will be more than those 20 bugs to fix before we +can release: layouts and groups need more refinement and +playing-around-with before a 4.1.0 release can be done, and may need +some additional supporting features (though not many, I think). Then +there needs to be a testing period, probably (although a good many +people are happily using the git sources). + +Of course, if you'd like to hurry up the process, feel free to submit +patches against the bugs that are left, so we can finish it up. :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFInJlo7M8hyUobTrERAr+aAJ9BbGrd2pjvNq0i+cOYc1wwUa98hgCcCkLH +kZ8oYrN7pSCRubbaOFtV94c= +=FAMp +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 16:00:50 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0F7768C5 + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:00:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41861 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRY8k-0003Ne-7p + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRY8Q-0003Mn-CO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:26 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRY8N-0003LC-At + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55264 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRY8N-0003L3-24 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:23 -0400 +Received: from yoda.london.02.net ([82.132.130.151]:48550 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRY8M-0000O7-V3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:00:23 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 48987420009D8976; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:00:20 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KRY8J-0004iT-J7; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:00:19 +0100 +Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:00:19 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> + <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> + <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen 4.0.3 @ GNU FTP (existing release) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 815 +Lines: 26 + +On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:07:20PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +[...] +> Of course, if you'd like to hurry up the process, feel free to submit +> patches against the bugs that are left, so we can finish it up. :) +[...] + +Hi Micah, + +it's nice to see activity going on on screen again! Thanks for +the effort! + +I've had a look at a bug report with patch that I had submitted +some time ago: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?11021 +The state says "needs discussion". I'm happy to discuss. Is +there any objection to the fix I'm suggesting? The only +comment on that bug, is about saying that "mouse is +already supported" which is not relevant to the issue. + +Best regards, +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 16:21:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7937D8B85 + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:21:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44434 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRYSV-0002Os-JM + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:21:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRYRW-0001z1-9c + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:20:10 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRYRV-0001xv-8k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:20:09 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54908 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRYRS-0001vN-Gr; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:20:06 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58991) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KRYRS-0003Ny-4Z; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:20:06 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113DD3C900F4; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:20:03 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org, Screen development +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: +Subject: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3060 +Lines: 66 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +So, what would _really_ help me out in getting the documentation ready +for a 4.1.0 release, is if someone would step up to volunteer to +maintain the man page. + +The first step would be to ensure that the man page is in-step with the +Texinfo manual; currently I believe the man page is a couple steps +behind. the content is essentially the same between them, so for the +most part you should actually be able to compare them side-by-side for +differences. Tedious work, obviously. + +The next step would be to watch changes made to the Texinfo document +(which I'll be updating to reflect the current state of things), and +transfer them to the man-page. + +Basically, I'm willing to maintain one big, hulking, autonomous manual; +but I will not maintain two. I need someone else to step up for that. If +no one does, then this release will be issued with a woefully +out-of-date man page (lacking information on all the nifty new stuff), +and future releases might include one of those shell-of-a-manpages that +simply refer the reader to the Texinfo documentation. Surely that's +enough to scare a few of you into volunteering? ;) + +To my mind, unifying on a single source format would be the best +long-term approach, rather than having two manuals maintained. So far, +the approach that makes the most sense to me is to use the Texinfo as +the source document, generating the manpage with texi2pod.pl (see Wget's +Texinfo documentation for an understanding of this; note that, even with +texi2pod.pl, however, Wget's man page is still very much inferior to +their Texinfo counterparts: only a small portion is translated into the +man page). However, for Screen this would require texi2pod.pl to be +modified to allow arbitrary sections to be transmitted (it only allows +the standard ones, currently). + +Actually, though, as it stands, a big-hulking man page strikes me as +remarkably untraditional. It seems to me that, if we're going to do man +pages right for Screen, we should split it apart into separate man pages +by concept. For instance, one dedicated to the invocation options, +another dedicated to commands (screen(5) or screenrc(5)), another +dedicated to screen's mechanisms for hardstatus/caption/autoaka, another +for screen's terminal emulation details... of course, doing such a thing +would also mean that it would be a lot more challenging to generate from +the Texinfo documentation, so would really require a separate maintainer +(or more heavy modifications to texi2pod, or something). + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFInJ8R7M8hyUobTrERArJWAJ9CN1uwQp6MTkgMbKljWpRYmotklwCfe6ae +ELjB+S2tSxHEsovHSKfraTI= +=+qP0 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 17:18:32 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2987D8BC9 + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:18:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49259 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRZLv-0006tn-HD + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRZLa-0006rA-7p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRZLY-0006p5-UL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:05 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50649 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRZLY-0006ov-Nn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:04 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:36841) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRZLY-000470-Fo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:04 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A973C900F4; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:18:02 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Stephane Chazelas +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> + <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> +In-Reply-To: <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Mouse-support with "exec" filters +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2129 +Lines: 59 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Stephane Chazelas wrote: +> On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 12:07:20PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> [...] +>> Of course, if you'd like to hurry up the process, feel free to submit +>> patches against the bugs that are left, so we can finish it up. :) +> [...] +> +> Hi Micah, +> +> it's nice to see activity going on on screen again! Thanks for +> the effort! +> +> I've had a look at a bug report with patch that I had submitted +> some time ago: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?11021 +> The state says "needs discussion". I'm happy to discuss. Is +> there any objection to the fix I'm suggesting? The only +> comment on that bug, is about saying that "mouse is +> already supported" which is not relevant to the issue. + +I think the discussion I wished to have, was whether there was agreement +that in all cases we would wish the mouse sequences to go to the filter, +rather than the application. I would think that in many cases, one would + wish the reverse (say if the application is vim, and the filter doesn't +get mouse sequences). + +In order to be done right, it might be necessary for screen to determine +which tty the mouse-tracking sequence was sent on (app's or filter's). + +OTOH, a case might be made that none of this applies when the filter +spec has "." as the first character. I'm not confident enough in my +knowledge/experience with filters to make such a judgment, which is why +I wanted to discuss it. :) + +BTW, you might want to add yourself to that bug's Cc list (if you lack +an account, you should still be able to add yourself, by filling in a +captcha). + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFInLgK7M8hyUobTrERAsDLAJ9cWyYdPvegEcLMB/SyBc0Gv2VQ9wCfSGbz +84ybtXFduQt6H+D/rhLV1Wc= +=MPO0 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 19:15:02 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07DE7CAA1C + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:15:01 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47084 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRbAc-0000Mj-12 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:14:54 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRbAL-0000Me-7Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:14:37 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRbAJ-0000MJ-EO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:14:36 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58771 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRbAJ-0000MG-8y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:14:35 -0400 +Received: from vader.london.02.net ([82.132.130.150]:47925 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRbAH-0003hv-Qk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:14:35 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 4898742000A48759; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:14:28 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KRbAB-0005IL-9P; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:14:27 +0100 +Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:14:27 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080808231427.GC5176@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> + <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> + <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> + <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> + <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: "exec .!" filters seeing responses to "query" escape sequences +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3784 +Lines: 86 + +On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:18:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +[...] +> I think the discussion I wished to have, was whether there was agreemen= +t +> that in all cases we would wish the mouse sequences to go to the filter= +, +> rather than the application. I would think that in many cases, one woul= +d +> wish the reverse (say if the application is vim, and the filter doesn'= +t +> get mouse sequences). + +Sorry,=20 + +I shouldn't have brought that thing about the mouse because it +is not at all about that, and it seemed to have confused +everybody. + +A mouse event is exactly like a keyboard event, upon a keypress, +the tty sends a character or character sequence to screen. +Screen will generate a character for the window that currently +has the focus, and/or any filter that is configure to filter the +input. For a xterm-like mouse event it's the same thing, the tty +sends a character sequence to screen. screen might translate it +if there are split screen and send that to the current windows +and/or filter if the filter is configured to get the input. +That's what screen does already at the moment, it's all fine. + +But my bug report was not at all about that. + +There are some control sequences that you send to the terminal, +and the terminal /replies/ with another one. + +One of them is the one to query the cursor (*not* mouse cursor) +position: Report Cursor Position (CPR): if your application +writes \e[6n to the slave side of its pty, xterm will reply with +the cursor position. It will write something like \e[4;1R to the +master side of the terminal, so that if the application reads +=66rom the slave side, it will get those characters as if the user +had typed ESC [ 4 ; 1 R. + +Just like xterm, screen supports that CPR sequence. The +difference with the pressing of a key or mouse button is that it +is initiated by an application talking to screen. And screen +makes up its response by itself. The host terminal is not +queried, screen might even be detached. + +At the moment, the sequence that screen replies with (the cursor +(not mouse cursor, just text cursor) position like \e[4;1R) goes +to the application OK, but it doesn't go to a filter that is +configured to get the input (first character is "." as in exec +.!.), contrary to the mouse events. And I was saying it is not +right because they are inputs all the same, it's as if the user +had typed ESC [ 4 ; 1 R. So that's my bug report, nothing to do +with mouse. + +Now, to explain why I brought the mouse thing up that confused +everybody: one example for which it would be useful to have the +filter see those /answers/ from screen is that it could allow +you to give mouse support to any application, for instance +"vi" (the good old vi, not vim which has support for mouse of +its own already) or GNU info. If you have a filter that +intercepts all the input (including the responses to the Report +Cursor Position), you can make that filter so that it intercepts +mouse events. That part works OK at the moment. Upon a click, +the filter is able to determine the position of the mouse +cursor because that's encoded in the character sequence that it +can read. Then that filter can issue a CPR to get the position +of the cursor. Unfortunately, at the moment, it cannot get the +answer because it is not sent to it, only to the application. +But if it could, it could have the information about both the +current cursor position and the position of the screen where the +user mouse-clicked so that it could for instance send the correct +sequence of and to tell "info" to move the +cursor localtion to where the user clicked. + +I hope it clarifies it a bit. + +Best regards, +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 8 21:53:21 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87222771558 + for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:53:21 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57081 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRddt-0005VD-5b + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:53:17 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRddZ-0005TJ-Uf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:52:58 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRddY-0005RJ-Nv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:52:57 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58163 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRddY-0005R2-JK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:52:56 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:36958) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRddY-0002IR-6I + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:52:56 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0793C900F4; + Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:52:54 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489CF875.3010805@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:52:53 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Stephane Chazelas +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> + <20080808231427.GC5176@sc.homeunix.net> +In-Reply-To: <20080808231427.GC5176@sc.homeunix.net> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: "exec .!" filters seeing responses to "query" escape sequences +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3971 +Lines: 94 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Stephane Chazelas wrote: +> On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:18:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> [...] +>> I think the discussion I wished to have, was whether there was agreement +>> that in all cases we would wish the mouse sequences to go to the filter, +>> rather than the application. I would think that in many cases, one would +>> wish the reverse (say if the application is vim, and the filter doesn't +>> get mouse sequences). +> +> Sorry, +> +> I shouldn't have brought that thing about the mouse because it +> is not at all about that, and it seemed to have confused +> everybody. + + + +I was aware that the issue wasn't specific to mouse-reporting. What I +didn't realize is that the issue actually fails to apply at _all_ to +mouse-reporting. Your talk about mouse support is possibly even more of +a red herring than you knew. :) + +The concerns I brought up in my previous response still apply, whether +mouse-tracking is concerned or not: should "screen-generated" responses +be sent to the filtering process in all cases, or is that likely to +confuse filters which weren't set up for it? + +The bit I wrote: + +> In order to be done right, it might be necessary for screen to determine +> which tty the mouse-tracking sequence was sent on (app's or filter's). + +is equally applicable if you replace "mouse-tracking sequence" with "CPR +sequence". + +However, what I did not realize is that mouse-tracking sequences are +_already_ always sent to the filter, and not the application, with or +without the patch you provided. I was assuming that it worked through +the same mechanism that response to CPR use. However, after some digging +around, I realize now that this is not at all the case: screen responds +to CPR internally, and issues its response directly to the application. +However, when screen sees mouse-tracking requests, it passes it on to +the host terminal (that part I already knew), and then when it sees +mouse-state reports, it leaves the report in-stream (if it's for the +correct position), and simply adjusts the information. I had been +thinking the information got swallowed up, and re-reported via Report() +or similar. + +So, my concern whether screen-generated responses holds somewhat less +weight as an impedement to your patch, since mouse-tracking sequences +(which are also "responses" to application (or filter) requests), are +_already_ always sent to the filter's input, leading to an inconsistency. + +However, the concern still remains, that if I apply your patch, it may +be that filters that didn't send/don't expect a response to an +application-sent CPR may be confused/broken. I'm thinking that it might +be more robust if screen were to note which tty the CPR (or other +request) came down (application or pseudo), and send the response back +on the same one. + +For consistency, one could also consider having screen swallow up +mouse-tracking responses, and reissue them down only the ttys on which +requests had been seen. + +But that wouldn't be a general solution, since other term-specific +query/responses couldn't be caught by Screen, and so would always end up +at the filter end in any case. So, perhaps I should simply apply your +patch to obtain a general _and_ consistent solution (if a potentially +existing-filters-breaking one), and have done with it. + +...which is why this is a discussion, and not a rant. Feedback, anyone? :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFInPh17M8hyUobTrERAur4AJ9NHfkXTwX6s0auWUqXYn/NzLYMxwCZAZVm +IcxnILLLPAzZ4ja4QBhyF2w= +=gkKt +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Aug 9 00:53:49 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF9770EFE + for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 00:53:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35724 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRgSV-00038i-9l + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:53:43 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRgS4-00036k-Ep + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:53:16 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRgS2-00034G-A0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:53:15 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41108 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRgS2-000346-5B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:53:14 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail02.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.66]:54229 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KRgS0-0002Lz-QI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:53:14 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.156.30]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 335774295-1927428 + for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:23:01 +0930 (CST) +Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:53:10 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080809045308.GD27687@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 945 +Lines: 23 + +On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 01:20:03PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> The first step would be to ensure that the man page is in-step with the +> Texinfo manual; currently I believe the man page is a couple steps +> behind. the content is essentially the same between them, so for the +> most part you should actually be able to compare them side-by-side for +> differences. Tedious work, obviously. + +Surely texinfo can be automatically converted into a roff manpage? + +> Actually, though, as it stands, a big-hulking man page strikes me as +> remarkably untraditional. + +The GNU convention would be to have a simple one- or two-page manpage, +which includes a SYNOPSIS and a brief DESCRIPTION and then says "use +info for the complete manual". + +IMO this is a reasonable approach. How do other stakeholders feel? + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Aug 9 01:35:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21247D8C63 + for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 01:35:03 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37118 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRh6R-0005AB-4x + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRh5v-00058P-3C + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:27 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRh5s-00055g-HV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:25 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42013 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KRh5s-00055T-7s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:24 -0400 +Received: from smtp.domeneshop.no ([194.63.248.54]:59394) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KRh5r-0006c5-C7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:34:23 -0400 +Received: from 98.84-49-225.nextgentel.com ([84.49.225.98] helo=sunbase.org) + by smtp.domeneshop.no with esmtpsa + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.68) + (envelope-from ) id 1KRh5n-0002BB-Uu + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:34:20 +0200 +Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:34:12 +0200 +From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=98yvind_A=2E?= Holm +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080809053412.GE10790@sunbase.org> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <20080809045308.GD27687@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +In-Reply-To: <20080809045308.GD27687@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +OpenPGP: id=94A506E5; url=http://www.sunbase.org/pubkey.asc +X-Request-PGP: http://www.sunbase.org/pubkey.asc +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0948903520==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3791 +Lines: 97 + + +--===============0948903520== +Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; + protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb" +Content-Disposition: inline + + +--5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On 2008-08-09 14:53:10, Trent W. Buck wrote: +> On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 01:20:03PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> > The first step would be to ensure that the man page is in-step with=20 +> > the Texinfo manual; currently I believe the man page is a couple=20 +> > steps behind. the content is essentially the same between them, so=20 +> > for the most part you should actually be able to compare them=20 +> > side-by-side for differences. Tedious work, obviously. +> +> Surely texinfo can be automatically converted into a roff manpage? + +Not according to Wikipedia: + + Notable is the lack of man as an output format from the standard=20 + Texinfo tools. True, Texinfo is used for writing the documentation of=20 + GNU software, which typically is used in Unix-like environments such=20 + as GNU/Linux, where the traditional format for documentation is man.=20 + But the design rationale for the standard Texinfo tools' omission of=20 + man as an output format is that man pages have a strict conventional=20 + format, used traditionally as quick reference guides, whereas typical=20 + Texinfo applications are for tutorials as well as reference manuals.=20 + As such, no benefit is seen in expressing Texinfo content in man page=20 + format. Moreover, many GNU projects eschew man pages almost=20 + completely, referring the reader of the provided man page (which often=20 + describes itself as seldom maintained) to the Info document. + + + +> > Actually, though, as it stands, a big-hulking man page strikes me as=20 +> > remarkably untraditional. +> +> The GNU convention would be to have a simple one- or two-page manpage,=20 +> which includes a SYNOPSIS and a brief DESCRIPTION and then says "use=20 +> info for the complete manual". +> +> IMO this is a reasonable approach. How do other stakeholders feel? + +I like manpages, I think it's a nice format for reference. I never=20 +understood why the GNU Project dislikes manpages, and personally I tend=20 +to get a little annoyed when I have to do a _second_ search in the info=20 +material (which sometimes has to be installed separately) when it easily=20 +could've been included in the man page. + +To make both worlds happy, maybe an idea would be to convert the Texinfo=20 +documentation into DocBook, which is able to create pretty manpages in=20 +addition to the formats Texinfo generates. If this is of interest, I can=20 +volunteer for the Texinfo =E2=86=92 DocBook conversion. + +=C3=98yvind + ++-| =C3=98yvind A. Holm - N 60.39548=C2=B0 E 5.31735=C2= +=B0 |-+ +| OpenPGP: 0xFB0CBEE894A506E5 - http://www.sunbase.org/pubkey.asc | +| Fingerprint: A006 05D6 E676 B319 55E2 E77E FB0C BEE8 94A5 06E5 | ++------------| 9fa36d42-65d2-11dd-b930-000475e441b9 |-------------+ + +--5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" +Content-Description: Digital signature +Content-Disposition: inline + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) + +iD8DBQFInSxU+wy+6JSlBuURArvXAJ0XDGt6PGFRn0mxc8ABxI4K9wFJGgCfXYuz +pkS/2yQRfPYfurtHxBDqa0A= +=jk0h +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb-- + + + +--===============0948903520== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============0948903520==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Aug 9 12:19:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01BF741729 + for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:19:41 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39125 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KRrAG-0006dd-U9 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:19:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQkGM-0002pI-SC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:45:18 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KQkGE-0002hS-KD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:45:18 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58299 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KQkGE-0002hJ-GU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:45:10 -0400 +Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.226]:57513) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KQkGA-0006mv-40 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:45:10 -0400 +Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h28so841804wxd.24 + for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:44:42 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.70.26.8 with SMTP id 8mr2994425wxz.13.1218033882706; + Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:44:42 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from Jabberwock ( [68.0.142.188]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm13494037wxd.2.2008.08.06.07.44.38 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:44:40 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:44:32 -0700 +From: Ken Steen +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:19:17 -0400 +Subject: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1380 +Lines: 27 + +I have a small file manager that uses screen to open programs in new +screen windows. It works correctly except when using screen on a +directory mounted with sshfs or when using screen on a directory that is +a symbolic link. If the program is started with 'screen program-name', +and the current directory is a symbolic link to another directory +opening a new screen window changes the pwd to the directory that is +pointed to by the symbolic link instead of the symbolic link directory. +If the program is started in the shell without screen and then opens a +screen window the pwd is the symbolic link directory. A similar problem +occurs when a directory is mounted with sshfs. If the program is +started with 'screen program-name' screen will give a permission denied +message when trying to open a new screen window. If the program is +started in a shell without screen and trys to open a sshfs mounted +directory in a screen window it works correctly. + +I am not sure what is happening. I am guessing that the environ +variable is not being set correctly. The screen command is passed with +execve() and works correctly except in the previous two examples. Any +ideas into what I am doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. + +Ken + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Aug 9 22:38:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FBD740E43 + for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:38:41 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56157 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KS0pJ-0002Vj-2R + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:37 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KS0oy-0002S6-O8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:16 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KS0ox-0002QS-9o + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:16 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38489 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KS0ox-0002QJ-4O + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:15 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail09.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.73]:40366 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KS0ox-0004X7-26 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:38:15 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.88.35]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 38876077-1927428 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:08:01 +0930 (CST) +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:38:17 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080810023815.GA26047@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 770 +Lines: 19 + +On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:44:32AM -0700, Ken Steen wrote: +> If [my] program is started with 'screen program-name', and the +> current directory is a symbolic link to another directory opening a +> new screen window changes the pwd to the directory that is pointed +> to by the symbolic link instead of the symbolic link directory. If +> the program is started in the shell without screen and then opens a +> screen window the pwd is the symbolic link directory. + +Does this problem occur with other terminal emulators (than screen)? + + xterm -hold -e program-name + rxvt -e program-name + gnome-terminal -x program-name + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 10:15:43 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD036E6C30 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36532 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSBhq-0000eB-L7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSBhU-0000cW-1t + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:16 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSBhS-0000bG-Ef + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:15 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42060 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSBhS-0000bD-9M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:14 -0400 +Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.181]:11021) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSBhS-0005ES-6y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:15:14 -0400 +Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so848695pyb.1 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject + :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition + :in-reply-to:user-agent; + bh=OXVlij3pQ8pVC0NfivgJvGlEon5yqnH9g47vGHAwBF4=; + b=RWV52J635iVYBOHROSPoE8BlNzwE/pCf3HdFr9UcYlqCOKVgjrVDzH70ZqpOyOuWbE + jgXvf7KiZT1MW6EyH76W6KWrqofZhJ8DHA03WFv1XapFlm+njETpIHtp7T+jMkx2YxpR + jcrOIu2Rs++vc3u+jT4KqkDYuiAeBL9wI81Q4= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version + :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; + b=fsyqvUvL9VnAgqBs8jSsrVYSquHGay3N30BFN0drXwL4bWdkEm5K4vBsNbkD4c2Z4k + iVwXfc8e1wgll8zYfj+Mr2Cy1rCptt9UYQMW0M1fjr1uMzNY3Tm6KPH8G6sKKmRxODjK + OcNY6Bm+TgShpCfAzKMxP7yfxa+oCsRpLYuNY= +Received: by 10.64.180.20 with SMTP id c20mr120869qbf.124.1218377712702; + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from krusty ( [99.241.216.69]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm925741qba.0.2008.08.10.07.15.10 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:15:11 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:22:19 -0400 +From: Sadrul Habib Chowdhury +To: Jean-Yves Levesque +Message-ID: <20080810142219.GB8921@localdomain> +References: <111f7ec40808050840t521e4d9bmcd54353087c81fec@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <111f7ec40808050840t521e4d9bmcd54353087c81fec@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Vertical Split and Window List +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 925 +Lines: 38 + +* Jean-Yves Levesque had this to say on [05 Aug 2008, 11:40:03 -0400]: +> I do not know if this is an issue with my config +> but when I run the vertical split with layouts and +> I try to use the windowlist command (Ctrl-a ") I +> get the following message: +> +> Window size too small for window list page +> +> then +> +> Width 2 chars too small +> +> Am i missing something? + +Hi. I just pushed in a change (revision d938e51) that I think fixes this +problem. Could you please try it out and let us know if you still see +the bug? + +Thanks. +Sadrul + +> jy +> +> -- +> Je ne parle qu'en mon nom. +> I am only speaking for myself. +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 21:18:51 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029406EDB66 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57507 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM3Y-00053t-7B + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:44 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM3E-00052B-S6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM3D-0004yw-52 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60533 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSM3C-0004ya-Tj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:22 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.244]:33765) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSM3D-0002r5-0Y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:23 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1928473rvb.6 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=GObj/PUi5K/RzB+7BHdW8M+O6W2+kWYngTfj7VIIlmY=; + b=xley6qXjcE7xwliOrrXaeeHo8yot5dNQprkz+MM9ag+HzXFdvNdf1HMP0mzGz0FdRg + LAF4teu5uXSNZt3fB32yyVJ2vgo3qZmUHpdNcPK3S6E2MflMzl7mAhGdP31YYxi7RjNp + SLZrxPp4/EhBRKrbt96VF+YTwmwIwmAAgY5AY= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=Vuee3+RdmPMbz9D/0GFGO2/hCtvgZF3BNfRpDyJUHU7WuE2qVAMUHNKS6ay9f9Jo8c + k7p8JNCY+QFr+C33Vhgcb2fFQi4hF0wfK1WyI9anZ95JCw+spEMNGhJ6vgIhaXIPcVp+ + dSym1aU/uxZFQaqE23qr1VsHesFNUDEndF5gA= +Received: by 10.141.76.21 with SMTP id d21mr3081495rvl.270.1218417501214; + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.141.27.13 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:18:21 -0400 +From: "Andy Harrison" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1876 +Lines: 41 + +On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Ken Steen wrote: +> I have a small file manager that uses screen to open programs in new +> screen windows. It works correctly except when using screen on a +> directory mounted with sshfs or when using screen on a directory that is +> a symbolic link. If the program is started with 'screen program-name', +> and the current directory is a symbolic link to another directory +> opening a new screen window changes the pwd to the directory that is +> pointed to by the symbolic link instead of the symbolic link directory. +> If the program is started in the shell without screen and then opens a +> screen window the pwd is the symbolic link directory. A similar problem +> occurs when a directory is mounted with sshfs. If the program is +> started with 'screen program-name' screen will give a permission denied +> message when trying to open a new screen window. If the program is +> started in a shell without screen and trys to open a sshfs mounted +> directory in a screen window it works correctly. +> +> I am not sure what is happening. I am guessing that the environ +> variable is not being set correctly. The screen command is passed with +> execve() and works correctly except in the previous two examples. Any +> ideas into what I am doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. +> + +Although completely unrelated to screen, I had similar permission +problems with one of my sshfs mounts. I finally solved it with the +following sshfs params: + +sshfs my_username@servername:/path /mount/point -o allow_root -o +idmap=user -o uid=1000 -o gid=1000 + +I would suggest trying that, or change allow_root to allow_other, and +see if that helps. + +-- +Andy Harrison +public key: 0x67518262 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 21:24:11 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4726EDB66 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:24:11 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56612 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM8k-0001Hi-US + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:24:06 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM88-0000r8-Az + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:23:28 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSM84-0000n5-KN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:23:27 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53117 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSM84-0000mu-FZ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:23:24 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail02.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.66]:40093 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSM84-0003Eu-7G + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:23:24 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [203.7.155.20]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 335929819-1927428 + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:52:56 +0930 (CST) +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:23:07 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080811012306.GB3081@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> + +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 573 +Lines: 14 + +On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 09:18:21PM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: +> Although completely unrelated to screen, I had similar permission +> problems with one of my sshfs mounts. I finally solved it with the +> following sshfs params: [... -o allow_root] + +Hmm -- perhaps this is related to screen being set-uid? Perhaps it +does some things as root before relinquishing privileges that it +should be doing as the non-privileged user? + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 22:42:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F366EDB66 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:40 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51681 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNMi-0004QW-3I + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNMM-0004Mg-1Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNMK-0004Ky-UQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:13 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40358 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSNMK-0004KY-LC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:12 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58456) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSNMK-0003ZL-AD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:12 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-247-112-100.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.112.100]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18893C8A932 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:42:10 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:42:22 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen Users +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Screen, xterm, initialization strings. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2936 +Lines: 66 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +So, the other day, I suddenly found that screen was no longer using the +alternate screen buffer as it usually does. Worse, screen _thought_ it +was operating under the alternate screen buffer, so left a dirty screen +upon exit. Thinking it was a recently-introduced but, I spent pretty +much the whole day tracking down the problem, which turned out to be +that after blowing away /opt/screen and reinstalling, I neglected to +copy etcscreenrc to /opt/screen/etc/screenrc, which has the following: + + # Long time I had this in my private screenrc file. But many people + # seem to want it (jw): + # we do not want the width to change to 80 characters on startup: + # on suns, /etc/termcap has :is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;3;4;6l: + termcap xterm 'is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;4;6l' + terminfo xterm 'is=\E[r\E[m\E[2J\E[H\E[?7h\E[?1;4;6l' + +I use gnome-terminal (which advertises as xterm), which has the +following ("is2" is terminfo for termcap's "is"): + + $ tput is2 | cat -v; echo + ^[[!p^[[?3;4l^[[4l^[> + +Note the initial ^[[!p, which is the sequence for DECSTR, the soft +reset. In vte (gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal), this has the effect +(among others), of bringing the terminal back into the normal screen +buffer. (Ironically, it does not have this effect in an actual xterm.) + +My question is: is screen even right to issue the initialization string, +at all? And particularly _after_ issuing smkx. My understanding is that +is2 and friends should be sent on user login. One could, perhaps, argue +that using screen _does_ amount to a login of sorts; but considering +that nowhere else does one find it issued _after_ entering application +keypad mode (which it could reasonably be expected to reverse, alternate +buffer or no), and that terminfo(5) specifically states that it would +normally set 80-column mode (which, according to the comment above, we'd +want to avoid)... it seems extremely likely to me that issuing the init +string gives a lot more potential for causing problems than solving +them. Sure, we can just go on entering custom termcap settings in +screenrc whenever we encounter a problem, but should that really be the +answer? + +I propose that screen not send the initialization string. Probably with +a command-line option that specifies it should be sent (though, IMO it +should be sent before smkx, and not after). Any thoughts on this? + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIn6cO7M8hyUobTrERAuvjAKCKdbpa+0NBOVbmQ/4SLhk7RxiJGgCbB02A +wFe59NjoMLRcVvl8wsMSJjs= +=o31k +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 10 22:53:20 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097396EDB66 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:53:19 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46279 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNX1-0008HJ-Jd + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:53:15 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNVR-0006ob-HU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:37 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSNVP-0006mT-Ig + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:36 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57438 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSNVP-0006mK-Eo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:35 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:59555) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSNVP-0004XZ-7Y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:51:35 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-247-112-100.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.112.100]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE7F3C8A932 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:51:34 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <489FA942.7000407@cowan.name> +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:51:46 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen Users +References: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> +In-Reply-To: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Screen, xterm, initialization strings. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 794 +Lines: 28 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Micah Cowan wrote: +> My question is: is screen even right to issue the initialization string, +> at all? And particularly _after_ issuing smkx. + +(Sorry, here and elsewhere, I mean smcup (termcap "ti"), not smkx.) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIn6lC7M8hyUobTrERAj6qAJ9/pgUdkKbpBGfvhaBOadexua2YogCeIl/w +tPOAoj6O2+1oX00RAhnj2gA= +=WSt9 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 00:51:32 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6116DF8A1 + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:51:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45699 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSPNP-00037V-Pg + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:51:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSPMx-00035O-QA + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:50:59 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSPMs-0002zn-Mq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:50:57 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52469 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSPMs-0002zU-Gd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:50:54 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174]:53545) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSPMs-0001ls-3Z + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:50:54 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1701925wfc.24 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:50:51 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.154.20 with SMTP id b20mr1949399wfe.222.1218430251122; + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:50:51 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from Jabberwock ( [68.0.142.188]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm2119352wfg.15.2008.08.10.21.50.49 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:50:50 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:50:45 -0700 +From: Ken Steen +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080811045045.GA6137@Jabberwock> +References: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> + +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2303 +Lines: 48 + +On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 09:18:21PM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: +> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Ken Steen wrote: +> > I have a small file manager that uses screen to open programs in new +> > screen windows. It works correctly except when using screen on a +> > directory mounted with sshfs or when using screen on a directory that is +> > a symbolic link. If the program is started with 'screen program-name', +> > and the current directory is a symbolic link to another directory +> > opening a new screen window changes the pwd to the directory that is +> > pointed to by the symbolic link instead of the symbolic link directory. +> > If the program is started in the shell without screen and then opens a +> > screen window the pwd is the symbolic link directory. A similar problem +> > occurs when a directory is mounted with sshfs. If the program is +> > started with 'screen program-name' screen will give a permission denied +> > message when trying to open a new screen window. If the program is +> > started in a shell without screen and trys to open a sshfs mounted +> > directory in a screen window it works correctly. +> > +> > I am not sure what is happening. I am guessing that the environ +> > variable is not being set correctly. The screen command is passed with +> > execve() and works correctly except in the previous two examples. Any +> > ideas into what I am doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. +> > +> +> Although completely unrelated to screen, I had similar permission +> problems with one of my sshfs mounts. I finally solved it with the +> following sshfs params: +> +> sshfs my_username@servername:/path /mount/point -o allow_root -o +> idmap=user -o uid=1000 -o gid=1000 +> +> I would suggest trying that, or change allow_root to allow_other, and +> see if that helps. +> + +I had to use the -o allow_other and -o default_permissions with sshfs to +get it to work properly with screen. The symlink directory problem was +fixed by calling "screen -X setenv PWD /full/path/to/directory" before +calling screen to open a new window. I don't know why it is needed only +on symlink directories but it works. + +Thanks, +Ken + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 06:03:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26CA6E7725 + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:03:40 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54421 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSUFQ-0000k3-7C + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:03:32 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSUB9-0006vR-J3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:59:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSUB8-0006tu-Mn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:59:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58285 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSUB7-0006ta-Sb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:59:05 -0400 +Received: from jabba.london.02.net ([82.132.130.169]:50376 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSUB7-0008Ea-5S + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:59:05 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 4898862E010E56ED; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:16:42 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSUAy-0001k8-Af; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:58:56 +0100 +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:58:56 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080811095856.GA6298@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> + <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> + <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> + <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> + <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Mouse-support with "exec" filters +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3522 +Lines: 93 + +On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:18:02PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +[...] +> I think the discussion I wished to have, was whether there was agreemen= +t +> that in all cases we would wish the mouse sequences to go to the filter= +, +> rather than the application. I would think that in many cases, one woul= +d +> wish the reverse (say if the application is vim, and the filter doesn'= +t +> get mouse sequences). + +Hi Micah, + +I don't agree with that. If I filter the input to vim, I don't +see why I would expect part of the input not to go through the +filter. + +But I'm talking here only of filters that filters the input, +that is what is otherwise being sent to the applications (what +applications read from their slave, or what they would have read +in the absence of a filter). + +That includes characters sent upon a key press (or return) or +mouse button press or motion if the application requested mouse +tracking, screen -X stuff, responses to "report" sequences and +so on. + +By trying to be clever and guess and select which of those a +filter author might be interested in, I fear that we lose in +clarity and flexibility. + +It should be up to the filter to select what it is interested +in: anyway, if it filters the input to a curses like +application, it has to know how to cope with character sequences +sent upon , , keys and so on. The key +is just another character sequence, you may consider for +instance that there's a key for every character cell on the +window. + +Every time I try to use filters, I have to scratch my head for a +while as it's quite complex. Having *all* the input go through +filters that have "." as the first character is the fd +specification looks like the most sensible thing to do to me and +what a user would expect. + +It allows filters to do stuff on all the sorts of input. If you +leave one sort of input out, that means less flexibility, as +that's one thing a filter can't do anything on anymore, or you +have to provide with an alternative way for them to do it and +that would add complexity. + +> In order to be done right, it might be necessary for screen to determin= +e +> which tty the mouse-tracking sequence was sent on (app's or filter's). +>=20 +> OTOH, a case might be made that none of this applies when the filter +> spec has "." as the first character. I'm not confident enough in my +> knowledge/experience with filters to make such a judgment, which is why +> I wanted to discuss it. :) + +I'm not too sure about what you mean with "which tty the +mouse-tracking sequence was sent on" in the context of +mouse-tracking. + +Do you mean the sequence that enables mouse tracking, or the +sequence sent by the terminal when a mouse button is pressed +when mouse-tracking in enabled? + +For the escape sequences sent by the terminal upon a button +press, it's like any other key press IMO. The sequence should go +to the window that has focus, and if there's a filter on input +for that window, it should go to the filter instead. + +Like if you do :exec ... vim +That vim should overwrite what is currently running, and mouse +should work. + +At the moment, mouse is working. What is not working is if vim +sends some "report" queries, it doesn't see the answer. + +Actually, you can observe that vim takes some time to start up +and my guess is because it times out waiting for the answer to +some "query terminal type" sequence. + +Best regards, +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 06:17:06 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8682F60D + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:17:06 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40404 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSUSS-0004bb-H1 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:17:00 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSURs-0004Yz-AW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:16:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSURq-0004Wu-3I + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:16:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52261 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSURp-0004WM-NR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:16:21 -0400 +Received: from yoda.london.02.net ([82.132.130.151]:50325 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSURp-0002q6-9P + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:16:21 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 48987420010EBD1E; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:16:19 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSURm-0001pR-IX; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:16:18 +0100 +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:16:18 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080811101618.GC6298@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Screen, xterm, initialization strings. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 707 +Lines: 22 + +On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:42:22PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +[...] +> I propose that screen not send the initialization string. Probably with +> a command-line option that specifies it should be sent (though, IMO it +> should be sent before smkx, and not after). Any thoughts on this? +[...] + +On the other hand, it seems to me that sending the init sequence +would be the best way to ensure the terminal is in the state we +expect it to be in. + +But I agree doing the smcup and switching to alternate screen +*before* doing the "init" sounds wrong. + +--=20 +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 07:14:25 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377106C66F4 + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:14:23 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52828 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSVLs-00009y-QX + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:14:16 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSVJ4-0006Wo-HP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:22 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSVJ3-0006UA-3l + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54873 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSVJ2-0006Ts-IZ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:20 -0400 +Received: from vader.london.02.net ([82.132.130.150]:56911 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSVJ1-00031y-Tk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:20 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 48987420011198C1; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:11:17 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSVIz-00023K-6g; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:11:17 +0100 +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:11:17 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Ken Steen +Message-ID: <20080811111117.GD6298@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080806144432.GA6586@Jabberwock> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: 2 problems using screen with sshfs and symlinks +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4270 +Lines: 112 + +On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:44:32AM -0700, Ken Steen wrote: +> I have a small file manager that uses screen to open programs in new +> screen windows. It works correctly except when using screen on a +> directory mounted with sshfs or when using screen on a directory that i= +s +> a symbolic link. If the program is started with 'screen program-name', +> and the current directory is a symbolic link to another directory +> opening a new screen window changes the pwd to the directory that is +> pointed to by the symbolic link instead of the symbolic link directory. +> If the program is started in the shell without screen and then opens a +> screen window the pwd is the symbolic link directory. =20 + +There is no such thing as a "symbolic link directory". A +symbolic link is a special kind of file that contains a +path to another file. When you chdir(2) with a patch to such a +file as argument, you end up in the directory that is the target +of that link. + +The current working directory is always a directory, and there +is no path involved. The system knows the current directory only +by the device it's on and its inode. + +A user (or sometimes the kernel as on Linux' /proc//cwd) +may compute a path to that directory, by recursively looking up +the ".." entried starting from the current directory, but that's +all. + +Now, some shell implementations have a feature (which I tend to +consider as a misfeature as it causes more confusion that it +helps) in which they maintain an internal "logical" +representation of the current working directory. It started with +ksh I think and other shells like zsh and bash copied it. It's +stored in the $PWD parameter. The shell uses that internal +parameter for its pwd builtin (with pwd -L, the default, not pwd +-P) and cd (cd -L, the default, not cd -P) when arguments +contain ".." + +Even though POSIX prohibits it, if $PWD is found in the +environment, shells, upon startup initialise their internal +"logical current directory" parameter with its value (as long as +it is a valid path to the current working directory). + +I think it is what you're observing above. + +If you have: +~$ ls -ld 1 2 +drwxr-xr-x 2 chazelas chazelas 4096 2008-08-11 12:00 1/ +lrwxrwxrwx 1 chazelas chazelas 1 2008-08-11 12:00 2 -> 1/ + +And the current directory is "/tmp". + +If you do a: + +$ cd 2 + +Your current directory will be the /tmp/1 directory. However, +your shell will store "/tmp/2" in the $PWD variable, and if you +run the "pwd" command, it will return the content of that +variable instead of the real working directory. + +Now, your shell exports $PWD to the environment, so if you start +another shell, it will inherit the $PWD, and if you run the pwd +command in that other shell, it will return /tmp/2 as well. + +But if you start that other shell with "screen". The $PWD +variable will not be inherited. The new shell will be a child of +the screen server, so will inherit the $PWD of that process, not +the $PWD of your current shell. + +What you could do is: + +screen env PWD=3D"$PWD" some-program + +> A similar problem +> occurs when a directory is mounted with sshfs. If the program is +> started with 'screen program-name' screen will give a permission denied +> message when trying to open a new screen window. If the program is +> started in a shell without screen and trys to open a sshfs mounted +> directory in a screen window it works correctly. +>=20 +> I am not sure what is happening. I am guessing that the environ +> variable is not being set correctly. The screen command is passed with= +=20 +> execve() and works correctly except in the previous two examples. Any +> ideas into what I am doing wrong would be greatly appreciated. +[...] + +When you do: + +screen some-command + +in directory /dir. + +That screen command tells the screen server to open a new +window, to do a chdir("/dir") in it and execute the command as +the current user. + +If it does the chdir() before switching persona, then you'll +have the problem because by default sshfs doesn't allow root to +access directories mounted by a user. + +Maybe screen should be modified so that the chdir() is performed +after switching persona. + +--=20 +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 14:28:36 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CD273FB4B + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:35 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41718 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSc86-0004vc-L3 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:30 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSc7i-0004rp-Va + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSc7i-0004pl-0y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60859 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSc7h-0004pI-RI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:05 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:45864) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSc7h-0005w7-Ln + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:28:05 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-247-112-100.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.112.100]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850F93C8A934; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:28:04 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A084C3.3070802@cowan.name> +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:28:19 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Stephane Chazelas +References: <489FA70E.6070303@cowan.name> + <20080811101618.GC6298@sc.homeunix.net> +In-Reply-To: <20080811101618.GC6298@sc.homeunix.net> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Screen, xterm, initialization strings. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1587 +Lines: 47 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Stephane Chazelas wrote: +> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:42:22PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> [...] +>> I propose that screen not send the initialization string. Probably with +>> a command-line option that specifies it should be sent (though, IMO it +>> should be sent before smkx, and not after). Any thoughts on this? +> [...] +> +> On the other hand, it seems to me that sending the init sequence +> would be the best way to ensure the terminal is in the state we +> expect it to be in. + +Probably; except that we _don't_ expect it to be switched to 80-col +mode, which is apparently one of the things is2 is expected to do. + +If is2 is expected to be sent at a user's login, then perhaps we should +simply expect that it's already been taken care of, as a large variety +(most? all?) of other terminal apps appear to do (with the obvious +exception of "tput init" :) ). + +> But I agree doing the smcup and switching to alternate screen +> *before* doing the "init" sounds wrong. + +Okay, so I'm not crazy there, then. :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIoITD7M8hyUobTrERApgJAJ4iBWCjzEYpoHIjiW+3s0lRiwxFJACfYNoi +KEnfdvCBZZL/QEgMpIu8CVc= +=j7wl +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 14:57:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B1473FB4B + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:57:37 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51644 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KScaC-0008Kb-En + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:57:32 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KScWe-0005Wi-F1 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:53:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KScWc-0005UV-PF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:53:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52757 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KScWc-0005UI-Ji + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:53:50 -0400 +Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.40]:47918) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KScWc-0001T4-8w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:53:50 -0400 +Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de + (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.77]) + by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F0B5F0EA; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:53:45 +0200 (MEST) +Received: (from jnweiger@localhost) + by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.3/8.1.6-FAU) id UAA20490; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:53:44 +0200 (MEST) +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:53:44 +0200 +From: Juergen Weigert +To: Mark Eichin +Message-ID: <20080811185344.GB1647@faui40p> +References: + <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808070010v367c8774yf329f00e4cdf9941@mail.gmail.com> + +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D47675A +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen Users +Subject: Re: Getting screen size into the env? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: jw@cs.fau.de +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1980 +Lines: 52 + +On Aug 07, 08 12:18:53 -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: +> "Thomas Adam" writes: +> +> > 2008/8/7 Micah Cowan : +> >> However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +> >> LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +> >> Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do +> >> +> >> $ export COLUMNS LINES + +This may work, if the screen does not get resized while it is running. +I have my screen session inside an xterm, and resize frequently. +environment variables would still reflect the old value after a resize. + +> > +> > Rather unportably between Unixes: +> > +> > eval $(resize) +> +> resize requires having a terminal type that actually does xterm-style +> answerback, which as at best a "maybe". + +When run from within screen, we guarantee you that xterm-style +answerback is honored. Screen is an xterm-compatible device. + +> What you *really* want is the output of stty: +> $ stty -a |grep rows +> speed 38400 baud; rows 56; columns 144; line = 0; +> +> because it's a property of the tty, and changed there - putting the +> values in the environment is an old and not-really-workable hack. + +The best thing to do, is to keep them all in sync: + + - Measure the real dimension like resize does, + - Then check what the PTY thinks, and run stty to set cols and rows, + in case a SIGWINCH got lost. + - Then check shell variables COLUMNS and LINES, and fire SIGWINCH to the + shell, if they do not match. The shell will fetch them from the PTY + then. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 15:25:03 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B626EDEAB + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:25:02 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44891 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSd0j-0005nW-LD + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:24:57 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KScpZ-0008AA-4q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:13:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KScpX-00087l-Bs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:13:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48700 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KScpX-00087a-0o + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:13:23 -0400 +Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.40]:49068) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KScpW-0004tb-QR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:13:23 -0400 +Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de + (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.77]) + by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F255F0EA; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:13:21 +0200 (MEST) +Received: (from jnweiger@localhost) + by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.3/8.1.6-FAU) id VAA20540; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:13:20 +0200 (MEST) +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:13:20 +0200 +From: Juergen Weigert +To: Micah Cowan +Message-ID: <20080811191320.GC1647@faui40p> +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> + <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> + <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> + <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> + <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> + <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> + <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> + <20080808231427.GC5176@sc.homeunix.net> + <489CF875.3010805@cowan.name> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <489CF875.3010805@cowan.name> +X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D47675A +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 +Cc: Stephane Chazelas , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: "exec .!" filters seeing responses to "query" escape sequences +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: jw@cs.fau.de +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1454 +Lines: 37 + +On Aug 08, 08 18:52:53 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> +> For consistency, one could also consider having screen swallow up +> mouse-tracking responses, and reissue them down only the ttys on which +> requests had been seen. +> +> But that wouldn't be a general solution, since other term-specific +> query/responses couldn't be caught by Screen, and so would always end up +> at the filter end in any case. So, perhaps I should simply apply your +> patch to obtain a general _and_ consistent solution (if a potentially +> existing-filters-breaking one), and have done with it. +> +> ...which is why this is a discussion, and not a rant. Feedback, anyone? :) + +When I originally implemented filters, the concept was, that everything +should pass through the filter process. + +A filter that relies on some data bypassing the filter, is a bad filter and +should be fixed, IMO. + +Filter syntax and semantics are horribly complex, and possibly got quite +broken over time. I haven't used any recently. + + cheers, + Js. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 11 15:40:16 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D72741F18 + for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:40:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40385 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSdFP-00009x-Mx + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:40:07 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSd40-0002Bs-8k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:28:20 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSd3w-00025G-9G + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:28:19 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45135 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSd3w-000254-4m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:28:16 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:52778) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSd3w-0007PZ-1L + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:28:16 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3293C8A932; + Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A092C9.7060203@cowan.name> +Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:28:09 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: jw@cs.fau.de +References: <489B49D3.8070804@cowan.name> <111f7ec40808080717t6187a2b3ib267bc928291eced@mail.gmail.com> <20080808150930.GH7870@rai.laznode.com> <111f7ec40808081008w63e744bdg5695326b757187e9@mail.gmail.com> <489C9968.2010904@cowan.name> <20080808200019.GB5176@sc.homeunix.net> <489CB80A.7010200@cowan.name> <20080808231427.GC5176@sc.homeunix.net> <489CF875.3010805@cowan.name> + <20080811191320.GC1647@faui40p> +In-Reply-To: <20080811191320.GC1647@faui40p> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Stephane Chazelas , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: "exec .!" filters seeing responses to "query" escape sequences +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1838 +Lines: 51 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Juergen Weigert wrote: +> On Aug 08, 08 18:52:53 -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +>> For consistency, one could also consider having screen swallow up +>> mouse-tracking responses, and reissue them down only the ttys on which +>> requests had been seen. +>> +>> But that wouldn't be a general solution, since other term-specific +>> query/responses couldn't be caught by Screen, and so would always end up +>> at the filter end in any case. So, perhaps I should simply apply your +>> patch to obtain a general _and_ consistent solution (if a potentially +>> existing-filters-breaking one), and have done with it. +>> +>> ...which is why this is a discussion, and not a rant. Feedback, anyone? :) +> +> When I originally implemented filters, the concept was, that everything +> should pass through the filter process. +> +> A filter that relies on some data bypassing the filter, is a bad filter and +> should be fixed, IMO. +> +> Filter syntax and semantics are horribly complex, and possibly got quite +> broken over time. I haven't used any recently. + +Well, that's certainly reason enough to fix it, then. :) Thanks for +clarifying, Juergen. + +It may also be that this was never working properly; I expect that not +many filters issue terminal queries, so who would have noticed? + +- -- +Micah J. 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In +window1 i issue the :split command and quite rightly then get a split +window. However, if i then switch to window2, whichever split region +i was in switches to window2. what i would rather is the split +windows are contained just to window1 - window2 should have no split +windows at all when i switch to it. + +i've read that one can have window groups but theres very little +documentation - is this something which would allow me to achieve +this? + +Thanks! + +David + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 09:51:22 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12EE741836 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:51:22 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35917 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSuHL-0002cx-Ku + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:51:15 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSuGy-0002a5-9B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:50:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSuGw-0002Vw-CA + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:50:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37139 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSuGw-0002Vg-54 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:50:50 -0400 +Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.145]:42635) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSuGw-0007hF-5T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:50:50 -0400 +Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so207990qwk.24 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:50:48 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject + :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition + :in-reply-to:user-agent; + bh=rFrT3eX4mpPf1ou4dYKmDMqPL/SNZtl8BL4M1hMGlTI=; + b=GpH1yWyCgg838xx1Wz4iQdP24IqKr4/A+JtGGcDBohNJhIQzF+Xga1NS55JfiYZXt8 + uvxhbbBJ2cmxQXNuPCesqe1qokqtub17CeVPc4hXANgwBc5p1EErzBd+YzOrz2YyLTfh + buAhPCphViojW5x06ORoaB/+B6XqLxcwVGA5o= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version + :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; + b=KAvZu9zBZB9qRY9ZvOKarRf2+o8fVVYyjKsVrCc0yYHBby+lYRKzCzXIywA0wfcKAV + RuB9a/lpeyjmTvyohADOlWGUEXWSES0Ps4SFKqbYWgaCQsxbqtf0nmbLXTdRNwnuOWbo + bhv6Sq7NFjk7tqOzasUbBaD3xdK/MiwVIobzY= +Received: by 10.151.142.2 with SMTP id u2mr14405752ybn.82.1218549048558; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:50:48 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from krusty ( [99.241.216.69]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm5670168qba.3.2008.08.12.06.50.46 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:50:47 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:58:12 -0400 +From: Sadrul Habib Chowdhury +To: David Chanters +Message-ID: <20080812135812.GI8921@localdomain> +References: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Windows groups with window splits +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1358 +Lines: 45 + +* David Chanters had this to say on [12 Aug 2008, 09:25:22 +0100]: +> Hi - +> +> i don't know if this has been asked before, but i am using the GIT +> version of screen and am wondering if i can do the following: +> +> Assume i have two windows under screen, window1 and window2. In +> window1 i issue the :split command and quite rightly then get a split +> window. However, if i then switch to window2, whichever split region +> i was in switches to window2. what i would rather is the split +> windows are contained just to window1 - window2 should have no split +> windows at all when i switch to it. + +Sounds like you want layouts, a new feature in 4.1.0. + +> i've read that one can have window groups but theres very little +> documentation - is this something which would allow me to achieve +> this? + +Layouts aren't documented [all that well] +(https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?23597). But for a quick intro: the +possible layout commands are: + + layout new + layout save + layout next + layout prev + layout show + layout title [title] + layout select + layout autosave on|off + layout number [number] + +The commands do what you would expect them to do. :) + +Someone should totally write up the documentation! + +Sadrul + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 12:45:51 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A5876442B + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56404 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSx0C-00039Y-DM + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:44 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSwzj-00036X-GX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:15 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSwzi-00034X-Ew + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:14 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54759 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSwzi-00033l-9b + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:14 -0400 +Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.153]:46899) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSwze-0005b4-Vs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:45:12 -0400 +Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so877020yxf.66 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:45:09 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=MHBvfQPc8NZKdcp0F8aKGTvCEGc8FyGl4Xdgt27IQqQ=; + b=D3IvMeTN3C36EHN1SwKw765JChKyDJkk1sNMXE3LPZ8+jOInYHuf/A8EOxy1dhRv7a + deos3YWV0Rp2U70EAksxXOwLANBDKWsblBA0YRRTbp/jt0SpIA397G+HBrDnpiNDRHll + e8QEfqJ1Y71Fg/6G/qybGTBNoobL0I5Veg+WM= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=YoXRZm7/b2vcrVvuMdvFi7VIn2+HBL/QMWwXcMXPl4Pdrze3PooGd6j7GdjJdLnBCC + vXqtH2Y9OYyJWy9yIiSoAYR4wqIzWy1IH+o/13Gyk/MLVm9ERcIURnf/qJ1LnJOGoycj + Qa3oefQhai5P2McOYkmF1bQ75zHwHxK0RuznA= +Received: by 10.142.162.9 with SMTP id k9mr2799862wfe.158.1218559509098; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:45:09 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:45:08 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:45:08 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3751 +Lines: 82 + +2008/8/8 Micah Cowan : +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> So, what would _really_ help me out in getting the documentation ready +> for a 4.1.0 release, is if someone would step up to volunteer to +> maintain the man page. + +I put myself forward as a volunteer. + +> The first step would be to ensure that the man page is in-step with the +> Texinfo manual; currently I believe the man page is a couple steps +> behind. the content is essentially the same between them, so for the +> most part you should actually be able to compare them side-by-side for +> differences. Tedious work, obviously. + +But something of a no-brainer, so it's easy to do just time-consuming. + +> The next step would be to watch changes made to the Texinfo document +> (which I'll be updating to reflect the current state of things), and +> transfer them to the man-page. + +I will state at this point, categorically, that although being true to +GNU's roots is nice, I am dead against texinfo pages -- *no* one +actually reads them; heck, the existing info viewer is an abomination, +pinfo is "OK" but is not ubiquitous so it's out of the running for +most people. No... I seriously suggest we just make the manpage a +fore-runner -- at least an "official" representation of our +documentation. + +> Basically, I'm willing to maintain one big, hulking, autonomous manual; + +You won't come close to FVWM's man page size. :P + +> but I will not maintain two. I need someone else to step up for that. If +> no one does, then this release will be issued with a woefully +> out-of-date man page (lacking information on all the nifty new stuff), + +As noted above, I am willing to maintain the *man*page. + +> and future releases might include one of those shell-of-a-manpages that +> simply refer the reader to the Texinfo documentation. Surely that's +> enough to scare a few of you into volunteering? ;) + +Perhaps. + +> To my mind, unifying on a single source format would be the best +> long-term approach, rather than having two manuals maintained. So far, +> the approach that makes the most sense to me is to use the Texinfo as +> the source document, generating the manpage with texi2pod.pl (see Wget's +> Texinfo documentation for an understanding of this; note that, even with +> texi2pod.pl, however, Wget's man page is still very much inferior to +> their Texinfo counterparts: only a small portion is translated into the +> man page). However, for Screen this would require texi2pod.pl to be +> modified to allow arbitrary sections to be transmitted (it only allows +> the standard ones, currently). + +Or use asciidoc or txt2tags, etc. + +> Actually, though, as it stands, a big-hulking man page strikes me as +> remarkably untraditional. It seems to me that, if we're going to do man +> pages right for Screen, we should split it apart into separate man pages +> by concept. For instance, one dedicated to the invocation options, +> another dedicated to commands (screen(5) or screenrc(5)), another +> dedicated to screen's mechanisms for hardstatus/caption/autoaka, another +> for screen's terminal emulation details... of course, doing such a thing +> would also mean that it would be a lot more challenging to generate from +> the Texinfo documentation, so would really require a separate maintainer +> (or more heavy modifications to texi2pod, or something). + +I disagree. Having one manpage for screen, and another for the +screenrc is in keeping with "tradition" -- splitting this mythical +screen(1) manpage up would only alienate its use -- how would/are +people supposed to know/remember which manpage to refer to? + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 14:04:29 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE6776442B + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50344 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyEI-0004dp-Lt + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:04:22 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyDn-0004PZ-9H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:03:51 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyDm-0004OQ-Jq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:03:50 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36291 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyDk-0004LQ-Jr; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:03:48 -0400 +Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.40]:44284) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSyDj-0003kn-OV; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:03:48 -0400 +Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de + (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.77]) + by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA435F0D0; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:03:45 +0200 (MEST) +Received: (from jnweiger@localhost) + by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.3/8.1.6-FAU) id UAA21616; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:03:43 +0200 (MEST) +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:03:43 +0200 +From: Juergen Weigert +To: Thomas Adam +Message-ID: <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D47675A +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: jw@cs.fau.de +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2003 +Lines: 47 + +Thomas, thanks for stepping forward! +Personally, I also prefer manpages. Probably mostly because +I know how to search and jump with less. + +On Aug 12, 08 17:45:08 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> I will state at this point, categorically, that although being true to +> GNU's roots is nice, I am dead against texinfo pages -- *no* one +> actually reads them; heck, the existing info viewer is an abomination, +> pinfo is "OK" but is not ubiquitous so it's out of the running for +> most people. No... I seriously suggest we just make the manpage a +> fore-runner -- at least an "official" representation of our +> documentation. + + +Having only a texinfo page, is not that bad. +- one could always do 'info gdb | less' as a workaround. +- It just looks great, when printed on paper. + +> > To my mind, unifying on a single source format would be the best +> > long-term approach, rather than having two manuals maintained. So far, +> > the approach that makes the most sense to me is to use the Texinfo as +> > the source document, generating the manpage with texi2pod.pl (see Wget's +> > Texinfo documentation for an understanding of this; note that, even with +> > texi2pod.pl, however, Wget's man page is still very much inferior to +> > their Texinfo counterparts: only a small portion is translated into the +> > man page). However, for Screen this would require texi2pod.pl to be +> > modified to allow arbitrary sections to be transmitted (it only allows +> > the standard ones, currently). +> +> Or use asciidoc or txt2tags, etc. + +I like that plan! + + cheers, + Jw. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 14:10:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E854476442B + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:10:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50760 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyKF-0004yZ-87 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:10:31 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyIt-0003ap-Qt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSyIs-0003Z2-Qz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49700 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSyIs-0003Yf-JE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.170]:15136) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSyIr-00051Q-W3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09:06 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2441477wfc.24 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:09:05 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=dype5/HLf6sEDTdUKCdEDQd63GDwFGuJ6w+8shBczRY=; + b=bGIPh/lLYvBMo6vFJei+eEhxiWGdiDUMzUzxXru3yK6t8rHQONNh61cd9lRyRSQXOa + p6hs1ldwqj0M0lq8kraDCz/xOaBZxqoC13Ue/8yT5Meyr3wTfmeeDpmGf9L4RjReOwok + J8/gLM5AjCYRZ1MPVwwIiUB+WVkJdaKlpo4ik= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=LhSXuvQjcNgygjOpUJACeNhilP1/55UbokngsszZw3T2B5FYB/OwRTVdqoCSA0aSja + aUGM0fcUG7gkdP7X7IpqYRblpDXgydxEZapbdtwAlxs6t/xWaVU2m+LEV1YL3Ke1OiNJ + SDDdj0FH3hJ/NxnbDMijPMfsVXd74H0NBqAtg= +Received: by 10.142.154.20 with SMTP id b20mr2836341wfe.222.1218564544029; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:09:04 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:09:03 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:09:03 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: jw@cs.fau.de +In-Reply-To: <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 667 +Lines: 23 + +2008/8/12 Juergen Weigert : +> Thomas, thanks for stepping forward! +> Personally, I also prefer manpages. Probably mostly because +> I know how to search and jump with less. + +No worries -- it makes a change from programming for me, but expect +the odd patch now and then. ;) + +> On Aug 12, 08 17:45:08 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +>> Or use asciidoc or txt2tags, etc. +> +> I like that plan! + +Which? ;) I'm going to sit tight on this thread for a few days, so I +know the best direction to take. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 15:11:13 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24819741ECF + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:11:13 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45658 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzGu-0002HT-3N + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:11:08 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzEH-0001Jk-2I + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:08:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzEG-0001JD-6E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:08:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48351 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzEE-0001IN-MQ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:08:22 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:37396) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSzED-0000tn-1c; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:08:21 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568A33C9007E; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:08:18 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:08:16 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Thomas Adam +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3936 +Lines: 99 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Thomas Adam wrote: +> 2008/8/8 Micah Cowan : +>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +>> Hash: SHA1 +>> +>> So, what would _really_ help me out in getting the documentation ready +>> for a 4.1.0 release, is if someone would step up to volunteer to +>> maintain the man page. +> +> I put myself forward as a volunteer. + +Thanks very much! + +>> The first step would be to ensure that the man page is in-step with the +>> Texinfo manual; currently I believe the man page is a couple steps +>> behind. the content is essentially the same between them, so for the +>> most part you should actually be able to compare them side-by-side for +>> differences. Tedious work, obviously. +> +> But something of a no-brainer, so it's easy to do just time-consuming. + +That's exactly what I meant by the term "tedious". + +> I will state at this point, categorically, that although being true to +> GNU's roots is nice, I am dead against texinfo pages -- *no* one +> actually reads them; + +Obviously incorrect, as I prefer the info manual. Especially since it is +much, _much_ easier to find the node corresponding to a given screen +command via info than via man: + + iscr="info '(screen)Command Index'" + iscr shelltitle + iscr hardstatus + iscr zombie + +The equivalent for man is typing "/^[[:space:]]*shelltitle". and +good luck if your command corresponds to a real word that shows up at +the beginnings of lines... + +Taking away the easiest-to-navigate documentation (and the only one with +a set of indices) seems counter-productive. + +> I seriously suggest we just make the manpage a +> fore-runner -- at least an "official" representation of our +> documentation. + +Removing the Texinfo documentation for a GNU project is, simply, not an +option. It's the choice that was made by making it a GNU project. + +>> Actually, though, as it stands, a big-hulking man page strikes me as +>> remarkably untraditional. It seems to me that, if we're going to do man +>> pages right for Screen, we should split it apart into separate man pages +>> by concept. For instance, one dedicated to the invocation options, +>> another dedicated to commands (screen(5) or screenrc(5)), another +>> dedicated to screen's mechanisms for hardstatus/caption/autoaka, another +>> for screen's terminal emulation details... of course, doing such a thing +>> would also mean that it would be a lot more challenging to generate from +>> the Texinfo documentation, so would really require a separate maintainer +>> (or more heavy modifications to texi2pod, or something). +> +> I disagree. Having one manpage for screen, and another for the +> screenrc is in keeping with "tradition" -- splitting this mythical +> screen(1) manpage up would only alienate its use -- how would/are +> people supposed to know/remember which manpage to refer to? + +In what way are you disagreeing with me? One for screen, and another for +screenrc, _would_ be splitting the manual up. The only disagreement we +seem to have is how many splits to make, apparently. IMO, having even +just two manpages would be a significant improvement. + +Anyway, enough ranting... down to logistics. It seems simplest to me for +you to have push access on git. For that, you'll need to register an +account with Savannah (if you don't have one), submit a public ssh key +you'll use to identify yourself for pushes, and request membership to +the Screen group. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIod+g7M8hyUobTrERAu09AJ0dDWIPVfNpq/Maske9hvysG21cqACbB6bf +srOpmdWJqfb4Eh4Hyyng5/k= +=Q5wf +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 15:15:07 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C475741ECF + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:15:07 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48390 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzKg-0003sT-RY + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:15:02 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzJN-0003Vm-Mx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:13:41 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzJK-0003UV-5u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:13:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54284 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSzJJ-0003UO-OZ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:13:37 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]:23159) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSzJJ-0002pi-DV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:13:37 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2462508wfc.24 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=0+7UKV7+DwOt+8sCRKE/Zh3RFqGOfvGy8SNK7PZ2ue4=; + b=CUQYJikJ2mHU60nP1WZlqcW+GC4mqHXQO460UynpQe/+MPonSnhYKdRSPNhcmjBIrF + 2IgAZqclLXROSUl52nMbrNV34xZhMKQlnEHh8DPzfF9ZY3HdnHTXdsckuDkl9i8O89RX + nMYRYhx2LuPa2wZr/hcji+OqtnUnqVmwjwk3g= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=SENsYmu7iqZzYrz3ryQ9L8q6ARRBqgNeaT8q4130alBR/6W2Z7LmORkX+8fHdbvWLj + Qxe9IvNmHaz7uLqi1Dm61h1nToVaBqJ6Vy2/WCHaqkfW6JeKQ6A1K9sRCsSJpHbVZI7C + j44c0+SsLF9gAbdQO9am6nrS1WvUO4BOWZQ0U= +Received: by 10.142.51.4 with SMTP id y4mr2859023wfy.220.1218568416592; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808121213o518d8cadje8f290be94979519@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:13:36 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Micah Cowan" +In-Reply-To: <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1157 +Lines: 28 + +2008/8/12 Micah Cowan : + +> In what way are you disagreeing with me? One for screen, and another for +> screenrc, _would_ be splitting the manual up. The only disagreement we +> seem to have is how many splits to make, apparently. IMO, having even +> just two manpages would be a significant improvement. + +I was disagreeing with having a manpage for caption/hardstatus, one +for window layouts, etc. If there's going to be any split files, then +I agree (for now -- unless there's some flurry of documentation from +elsewhere :P) that having screen(1) and screenrc(5) is something I +too would welcome. + +> Anyway, enough ranting... down to logistics. It seems simplest to me for +> you to have push access on git. For that, you'll need to register an +> account with Savannah (if you don't have one), submit a public ssh key +> you'll use to identify yourself for pushes, and request membership to +> the Screen group. + +Okey dokey. Will do so shortly after dinner. Thanks very much! + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 15:17:50 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D937741ECF + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:17:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50018 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzNJ-0005FS-5P + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:17:45 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzLu-0004e0-Kj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:16:18 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzLt-0004cq-Bj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:16:17 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44224 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSzLr-0004bw-OR; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:16:15 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:38091) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KSzLr-0003kX-FA; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:16:15 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085253C9007E; + Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:16:13 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A1E17A.1030402@cowan.name> +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:16:10 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Thomas Adam +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808121213o518d8cadje8f290be94979519@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808121213o518d8cadje8f290be94979519@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1181 +Lines: 36 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Thomas Adam wrote: +> 2008/8/12 Micah Cowan : +> +>> Anyway, enough ranting... down to logistics. It seems simplest to me for +>> you to have push access on git. For that, you'll need to register an +>> account with Savannah (if you don't have one), submit a public ssh key +>> you'll use to identify yourself for pushes, and request membership to +>> the Screen group. +> +> Okey dokey. Will do so shortly after dinner. Thanks very much! + +Are you kidding? Thank you! You're either saving me a ton of work, or +saving Screen from quality issues due to a woefully out-of-date manpage. :) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIoeF67M8hyUobTrERAtdIAJ9+umCYBBzs4A9uq9kQb0UiGNXR7wCgjlEc +f11OAn4ZhCRHlGQdCAfLEh0= +=iFjV +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 16:13:26 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CA8772792 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:13:25 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41288 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT0F5-0001Ce-9d + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:13:19 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT0Ek-0001CD-3d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:58 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT0Ei-0001Bn-7h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:57 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53242 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KT0Ei-0001Bk-4n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:56 -0400 +Received: from ultra.bl.org ([66.219.34.12]:51960) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KT0Eh-0006r3-BE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:55 -0400 +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by ultra.bl.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7CKCbqf012839 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:12:37 -0500 (CDT) +Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:12:37 -0500 (CDT) +From: Michael Parson +To: Screen Users +In-Reply-To: <20080811185344.GB1647@faui40p> +Message-ID: +References: + <489A92E0.9040604@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808070010v367c8774yf329f00e4cdf9941@mail.gmail.com> + + <20080811185344.GB1647@faui40p> +User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (NEB 962 2008-03-14) +X-Marks-The-Spot: --->X +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (ultra.bl.org [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:12:37 -0500 (CDT) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) +Subject: Re: Getting screen size into the env? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1494 +Lines: 44 + +On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Juergen Weigert wrote: +> On Aug 07, 08 12:18:53 -0400, Mark Eichin wrote: +>> "Thomas Adam" writes: +>>> 2008/8/7 Micah Cowan : +>>>> However, if you use bash, it will set _shell_ variables, COLUMNS and +>>>> LINES, automatically. This isn't something that screen does, but bash. +>>>> Bash does _not_ export these by default, however; you'll need to do +>>>> +>>>> $ export COLUMNS LINES +> +> This may work, if the screen does not get resized while it is running. +> I have my screen session inside an xterm, and resize frequently. +> environment variables would still reflect the old value after a resize. +> +>>> +>>> Rather unportably between Unixes: +>>> +>>> eval $(resize) +>> +>> resize requires having a terminal type that actually does xterm-style +>> answerback, which as at best a "maybe". +> +> When run from within screen, we guarantee you that xterm-style +> answerback is honored. Screen is an xterm-compatible device. + +I used to use the eval $(resize) method a lot, but at some point, the +shell I use (bash 3.2.33, atm) has an option for checking the window +size before executing any command: + +shopt -s checkwinsize + +I'm not sure what version introduced this feature, I only discovered it +when I re-read the man-page after one of the 3.x releases. + +-- +Michael Parson +mparson@bl.org + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 21:14:08 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0037D7FA9 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:14:08 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41742 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT4w5-0006oo-ML + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:14:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT4vm-0006oh-DG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:13:42 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT4vk-0006oV-UN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:13:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41928 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KT4vk-0006oS-RJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:13:40 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail11.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.75]:35461 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KT4vk-0007nR-Hr + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:13:41 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.131.60]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 26645325-1927428 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:43:30 +0930 (CST) +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:13:44 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080813011342.GB1232@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3123 +Lines: 63 + +On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 05:45:08PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> I will state at this point, categorically, that although being true +> to GNU's roots is nice, I am dead against texinfo pages -- *no* one +> actually reads them; heck, the existing info viewer is an +> abomination, + +I think it would be more accurate to say that primarily Emacs users +read them. I like them because (most manuals) have command and +subject indexes, and the browsers have a "back button" (l) to go to +the previous page, and because the search functions (C-s and C-M-s) +can search beyond the current page. The man format doesn't have +indexes, and HTML doesn't support searching across a multi-page +document. + +I also use manpages, but for *quick reference* -- not as a manual, but +as a refresher to remind me of the name of a switch or command. I +*like* the way GNU coreutils has quick reference content in manpages +(e.g. cp.1) and a *separate* manual that describes the package in +detail. I prefer this to bash's manpage, where I feel overwhelmed; or +to perl's manpages, where it takes me ages to find the right one. + +>> and future releases might include one of those shell-of-a-manpages +>> that simply refer the reader to the Texinfo documentation. Surely +>> that's enough to scare a few of you into volunteering? ;) + +I'd prefer the screen manpage to simply have a one-line synopsis, a +two-paragraph description and then a one-line (.TP) description of +each switch and :command. + +>> To my mind, unifying on a single source format would be the best +>> long-term approach, rather than having two manuals maintained. So +>> far, the approach that makes the most sense to me is to use the +>> Texinfo as the source document, generating the manpage with +>> texi2pod.pl (see Wget's Texinfo documentation for an understanding +>> of this; note that, even with texi2pod.pl, however, Wget's man page +>> is still very much inferior to their Texinfo counterparts: only a +>> small portion is translated into the man page). However, for Screen +>> this would require texi2pod.pl to be modified to allow arbitrary +>> sections to be transmitted (it only allows the standard ones, +>> currently). +> +> Or use asciidoc or txt2tags, etc. + +Do those have good support for large manuals, with cross-referencing +and multiple indexes within the document? My memory of them is that +they implement headings, literal blocks and emphatic/strong text; if +you want anything more, too bad. + +> I disagree. Having one manpage for screen, and another for the +> screenrc is in keeping with "tradition" -- splitting this mythical +> screen(1) manpage up would only alienate its use -- how would/are +> people supposed to know/remember which manpage to refer to? + +I'm not bothered by having a second manpage for screenrc; but how do +you decide what should go in it? Should :commands be described in +screen(1) or screenrc(5)? They can be used both interactively and in +.screenrc. The same applies for the description of string escapes. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 21:19:16 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F742741ECF + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:16 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52369 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT515-00089X-Tk + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:19:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT50n-00087H-26 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:18:53 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT50l-00085Y-OW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:18:52 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58897 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KT50l-00085D-Ek + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:18:51 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail10.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.74]:41230 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KT50l-0000dC-6n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:18:51 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.131.60]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 25620921-1927428 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:48:44 +0930 (CST) +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:18:57 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080813011855.GC1232@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 637 +Lines: 16 + +On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:03:43PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: +> - [texinfo] just looks great, when printed on paper. + +On GNU systems, at least, "man -Tps" results in a reasonably good +paper version, unless the manpage author made formatting blunders that +weren't apparent on his tty (such as using 'foo' instead of `foo'). + +PDFs generated in this way unfortunately don't have clickable +hyperlinks and don't have a PDF ToC; I suspect texinfo (by way of +LaTeX) wins on both those points. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Aug 12 21:22:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FCA7D7F96 + for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52904 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT54P-0001b8-78 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:37 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT54A-0001ap-Fz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:22 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KT547-0001ZF-Tk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37702 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KT547-0001ZC-QS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:19 -0400 +Received: from bld-mail02.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.66]:33539 + helo=mail.internode.on.net) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KT547-0001Qb-I8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:20 -0400 +Received: from localhost (unverified [59.167.131.60]) + by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id + 336142753-1927428 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:51:51 +0930 (CST) +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:22:04 +1000 +From: "Trent W. Buck" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080813012202.GD1232@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <48A1DFA0.7000806@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 830 +Lines: 23 + +On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:08:16PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> Obviously incorrect, as I prefer the info manual. Especially since it is +> much, _much_ easier to find the node corresponding to a given screen +> command via info than via man: +> +> iscr="info '(screen)Command Index'" +> iscr shelltitle +> iscr hardstatus +> iscr zombie +> +> The equivalent for man is typing "/^[[:space:]]*shelltitle". and +> good luck if your command corresponds to a real word that shows up at +> the beginnings of lines... + +In Emacs' info reader, the "jump to index entry" and "jump to +subsection" commands also autocomplete, so it's easy to see what your +choices are (by hitting TAB twice). + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 10:56:19 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C0F73E3F0 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44262 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHlj-0006cC-4w + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHlB-0006W2-NT + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:55:37 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHlA-0006VO-Nb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:55:36 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36548 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHl7-0006Ty-Py; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:55:33 -0400 +Received: from faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.34.40]:42333) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KTHl7-0003aN-M9; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:55:33 -0400 +Received: from faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de + (faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.77]) + by faui40.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98835F0DE; + Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:55:27 +0200 (MEST) +Received: (from jnweiger@localhost) + by faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (8.9.3/8.1.6-FAU) id QAA22589; + Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:55:27 +0200 (MEST) +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:55:26 +0200 +From: Juergen Weigert +To: Thomas Adam +Message-ID: <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> +X-GPG-Key: 1024D/0D47675A +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.7i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: jw@cs.fau.de +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1129 +Lines: 35 + +On Aug 12, 08 19:09:03 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> > On Aug 12, 08 17:45:08 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> >> Or use asciidoc or txt2tags, etc. +> > +> > I like that plan! +> +> Which? ;) I'm going to sit tight on this thread for a few days, so I +> know the best direction to take. + +The choice of weapons is yours. +What I wanted to say is, I am glad you know a range of tools that could help with +automation. I had no such tools for years, and tried to keep them both in +sync manually, which was always a pain. + +So your plan looks like this: +- compare man and texinfo, +- bring them back in sync +- (later) find a tool to generate both from one source + +right? + + cheers, + JW. + +-- + o \ Juergen Weigert unix-software __/ _=======.=======_ + | jw@cs.fau.de creator __/ _---|____________\/ + \ | 0179/2069677 __/ (____/ /\ +(/) | ____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 10:57:17 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4839173E3F0 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:57:17 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44917 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHmi-0007Dl-Q0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:57:12 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHm3-0006zz-VO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:32 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTHm2-0006yd-7M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:31 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36583 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTHm1-0006yI-SG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:29 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]:35610) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KTHm1-0003tH-Hg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:56:29 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so14972wfc.24 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=d5hea3ObgK4S5j/gzyfwOjhYRiBcFxgPQRmAg8+RXxI=; + b=KkliDVjoQqRud2ND/ncTUbodpO1P/s6YN48b5frrbrvnmGy8fQlp8in+Ozd/rp/cAz + nv/TrBWzp/Fu4fAI7wAIcwkeq1/+6mnXUYV21peck7zKDcfJrAiFQSeYQH8G6HnXaBUw + +RC+xNncR9hTmF2MU+g+fxC/PTggMcyDNWKC0= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=gk6GFRZilXZ4BQWM7ArUNDi4knIUoCDT10wvA2s9TupJT2+hKwRUbERNtm9aLLLdEl + o6nUSz72K1wyOAC/MMm5maHY95p9/lt+Ly90VSHWVnoOfwPsJHJAOSDPnXozMt6czqT0 + C0lPRLDmsOmHyeVbHHzC6jVOTGYF+5D3DEg60= +Received: by 10.142.52.18 with SMTP id z18mr3351176wfz.31.1218639387609; + Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808130756m4176b35cha7033a2b2eee03ca@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:56:27 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: jw@cs.fau.de +In-Reply-To: <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 383 +Lines: 17 + +2008/8/13 Juergen Weigert : +> So your plan looks like this: +> - compare man and texinfo, +> - bring them back in sync +> - (later) find a tool to generate both from one source +> +> right? + +Yep. Spot on. :) + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 11:46:24 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B045F73F857 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:46:24 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50199 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIYG-0002qL-48 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:46:20 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIXz-0002pY-83 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:46:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIXx-0002pF-QN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:46:03 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41961 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIXv-0002ou-4c; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:45:59 -0400 +Received: from yoda.london.02.net ([82.132.130.151]:55258 helo=mail.o2.co.uk) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KTIXu-0002mJ-KN; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:45:58 -0400 +Received: from sc.homeunix.net (78.105.216.138) by mail.o2.co.uk (8.0.013.3) + (authenticated as stephane.chazelas) + id 48A23487001ED406; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:45:39 +0100 +Received: from chazelas by sc.homeunix.net with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KTIXa-0000lU-Kr; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:45:38 +0100 +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:45:38 +0100 +From: Stephane Chazelas +To: Juergen Weigert +Message-ID: <20080813154538.GB5323@sc.homeunix.net> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-09-19) +Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 510 +Lines: 20 + +On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:55:26PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: +[...] +> - (later) find a tool to generate both from one source +[...] + +About that, zsh uses yodl as a format that is then used to +produce texinfo and man pages. The result is good at least on +the info side. + +So you may want to consider that. I don't know what other +projects use. + +--=20 +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 11:54:19 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588F173F857 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:54:19 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58662 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIfu-0005NR-VO + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:54:15 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSGWo-0006JV-QL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:34 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KSGWn-0006JB-OX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:34 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45175 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KSGWn-0006J8-Hj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:33 -0400 +Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:35923) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KSGWn-0002xs-6d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:33 -0400 +Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so882583fgb.30 + for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:24:31 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender + :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; + bh=drX9/4egOYuxQnZU0m+XCZ4k9w9MztvrHjt5w+HXaaY=; + b=fvyLobBQli2Xqmx7F3m9BI8dBbSYCJsjXo4WwiqpdEni96ovdxpzXafBeHcjbAK9cw + 8mCeKQ0WHWLocJQOpeESpUbblXpZ83UW2X6To5oinmxjYH8upnRujkjCil6pdJIRLkJC + GOQmubM3WoJ4kqU/yznE5YBcghd8KB9qf/POA= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; + b=E8VBOaSler+Z5OuubFttIUwXZDD6IS/cB+wdPxuongiDCwc8dFjvjaMearYSN4rYqA + SKi40KRGyAqnROhGGWAowGpUFZ2+lRQ69oAuGhJu26WlMe0JPc+aTwVnkEOYIMyFtIhN + BqlPCAd85HhW2Jq/DXcMD/Wrv/lsudGTbSTrA= +Received: by 10.86.31.19 with SMTP id e19mr6357961fge.42.1218396271782; + Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:24:31 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.86.2.15 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:24:31 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <9044cb320808101224k1e7dd9a2ha651bd6281c1ae0a@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:24:31 -0400 +From: "Edward Faulkner" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-Google-Sender-Auth: d2f809bdd671b8b1 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:52:36 -0400 +Subject: Scriptable way to determine current display +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1178 +Lines: 38 + +I'm trying to find a scriptable way to determine the currently active +screen display. I have multiple displays connected to a single screen +session, and I'd like to use the "at" command to send commands to a +particular display. + +Specifically, I have a script like this: + +#!/bin/bash +screen -r -X select emacs +emacsclient "$1" && screen -r -X select . + +You can use it to open a file in an existing emacs process while +simultaneously switching to the "emacs" window. Then when the file is +closed, emacsclient returns and we switch back to the window where we +started. + +It works great when there's only one display connected to the session. + But if there are multiple displays, the second screen command takes +effect on the display most recently created. I know I can use "at" to +name a specific display, but I don't know how to determine which +display to name. + +#!/bin/bash +screen -r -X select emacs +emacsclient "$1" && screen -r -X select . +CURRENT_DISPLAY=??? +screen -r -X at $CURRENT_DISPLAY% select . + +Any ideas? + +Thanks, +Ed + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 11:55:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MIME_BASE64_BLANKS + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3E273F857 + for ; 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It only happens when the +following conditions are met: +- the cursor is at the last line of the screen, without a status line +- the cursor is not at the beginning of the line + +Anyone else seeing this? + +Cheers. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 12:02:29 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F5673E42B + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:02:29 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52165 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTInm-0002uo-IJ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:02:22 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTFAQ-0007Dc-0g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:09:30 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTFAO-0007Bc-Fh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:09:29 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35001 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTFAO-0007BT-Cy + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:09:28 -0400 +Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.185]:10048) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KTFAO-0008Nh-7s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:09:28 -0400 +Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1454441tia.10 + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:09:25 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.110.109.19 with SMTP id h19mr12362042tic.58.1218629365075; + Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:09:25 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.110.90.3 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:09:25 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <77f930110808130509v52091164pc4faa345a9f6db73@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:09:25 +0900 +From: "Seongsu Lee" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:52:36 -0400 +Subject: reading custom .bashrc +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1468531700==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1500 +Lines: 46 + +--===============1468531700== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_248511_7900227.1218629365066" + +------=_Part_248511_7900227.1218629365066 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hi, + +I have my own bashrc file named '$HOME/.{USERNAM}/bashrc'. 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I have my own bashrc file named '$HOME/.{USERNAM}/bashrc'. I want the bash shell read the custom bashrc file when I create a new window every time in GNU screen. Do you have some configurations for this in screenrc? Or some tricks to do this? Thank you.
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I want the b= +ash +> shell read the custom bashrc file when I create a new window every time= + in +> GNU screen. Do you have some configurations for this in screenrc? Or +> some tricks to do this? Thank you. +[...] + +See the --rcfile option to bash. + +--=20 +St=E9phane + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 12:14:53 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E47D47A + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:14:53 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50125 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIzo-0003eE-VZ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:14:49 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIvK-0001Mu-HS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:10:10 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIvJ-0001MC-LJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:10:10 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39674 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTIvG-0001Kq-RN; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:10:06 -0400 +Received: from cpc1-cdif5-0-0-cust133.cdif.cable.ntl.com + ([81.109.152.134]:65080 helo=shaker.sd.yadn.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KTIvG-00025v-9R; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:10:06 -0400 +Received: from gedge by shaker.sd.yadn.org with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KTIv7-000FBO-Tn; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:09:57 +0100 +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:09:57 +0100 +From: Geraint Edwards +To: jw@cs.fau.de, Screen development +Message-ID: <20080813160957.GD1781@yadn.org> +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i +Organisation: Caerdydd, Cymru / Cardiff, Wales +X-MotD: Tempus fugit. +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +Cc: Micah Cowan , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: [screen-devel] Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 488 +Lines: 18 + +Juergen Weigert said + (on Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:55:26PM +0200): +> - compare man and texinfo, +> - bring them back in sync +> - (later) find a tool to generate both from one source + +Count me in. I much prefer manpages to texinfo, +so I'm keen to help keep them in sync. + +-- +Geraint A. Edwards (aka "Gedge") +gedge@yadn.org + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 13 15:37:17 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734D973E42B + for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:37:16 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47763 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTM9d-0004Px-R6 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:37:09 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTM8i-00046B-Cm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:36:12 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTM8d-00042z-15 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:36:11 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41163 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTM8c-00042t-QV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:36:06 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:56119) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KTM8a-0005AT-Tk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:36:06 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE393C9007E; + Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:35:59 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A3379C.2080306@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:35:56 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: YONETANI Tomokazu +References: <20080811113847.GA73597@les.ath.cx> +In-Reply-To: <20080811113847.GA73597@les.ath.cx> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: bug #23945 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1414 +Lines: 41 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: +> Hi. +> After the fix to #23945 (cb9d14bd8a198447d20ccd4be848df679a3047d9) committed, +> the cursor temporarily displayed at the wrong place when I enter copy-mode +> and move the cursor while "Copy mode - ..." caption is displayed. The +> cursor stays at the wrong place on the terminal until I refresh the screen +> or select the top-left corner of the region. It only happens when the +> following conditions are met: +> - the cursor is at the last line of the screen, without a status line +> - the cursor is not at the beginning of the line +> +> Anyone else seeing this? + +I do. If I hit "k" immediately upon entering copy-mode, the cursor moves +to the first column, but the copy behaves as if it's in its original column. + +Thanks for the report! Issue filed at +https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?24058 + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIozec7M8hyUobTrERAjeVAJ9sYK7esYJOdLVxOZv0x0AEX7hgYQCgg39s +DiDjP6qO+sKAapldWAxXgAU= +=icTN +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 04:08:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6610173DE63 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:08:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34099 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTuMG-0008NN-Gq + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:08:28 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTuLW-00082o-Ui + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:07:42 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTuLV-00081P-7w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:07:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38431 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTuLU-00080w-TW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:07:41 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]:49618) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KTuLU-0008MJ-1q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:07:40 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so876214rvb.6 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=vvQacoj8H6fdsbM1OyvcPI6bY3D/cffUHbqKIG6xHfA=; + b=e65J0b1ZZpl4rHiJetKN/3SonV9eA35PWgna3DCJZqQkxsq2wCCeTHs+yaPwqLajt3 + ZM4AQTcn1gkZPCQDtRDWHySPa1dNSTQjPykNmHp6hnw7woUdOkGcpORMxP4BVu32efY3 + WVn1Feb23r7yjr5tpt3e3zCb/l8AZdAhReEVg= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=ePwqXSjcTFYzdVf/KZIVceJoSLFVJXgnLd/scG2CwwTgG6x1byzRQHsb7KRKgZ2spX + q8OgLEOshC8c2tbvksUfHpdBsF5i2fS46IX9oXRrkUZEJaEHaL+dWERhAA4t1QRzZr7v + Yil/FrDK9Ktg+NiL4tEH7mumu5Owdoo89LA/k= +Received: by 10.141.107.13 with SMTP id j13mr1310870rvm.276.1218787658140; + Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.162.4 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:07:38 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:07:38 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Stephane Chazelas" +In-Reply-To: <20080813154538.GB5323@sc.homeunix.net> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> + <20080813154538.GB5323@sc.homeunix.net> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Micah Cowan , Screen development , + screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 934 +Lines: 28 + +On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Stephane Chazelas + wrote: + +> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:55:26PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: + +> > - (later) find a tool to generate both from one source +> +> About that, zsh uses yodl as a format that is then used to +> produce texinfo and man pages. The result is good at least on +> the info side. +> +> So you may want to consider that. I don't know what other +> projects use. + +funny you should mention that--the zsh list in the middle of a thread +called "Yodl has been discontinued for 13 years... zsh still uses it +for texi docs?" otoh, their consensus seems to be that it would be +hard enough for them to move to some other tool that they should +become the new yodl maintainers.... +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 04:26:32 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178E873E359 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60308 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTudf-0005tv-D7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTudK-0005tS-Bm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KTudJ-0005sv-1a + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:05 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59164 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTudH-0005sl-V3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:03 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.171]:6877) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KTudH-00054o-Jc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:26:03 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so843996wfc.24 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=qvahlLdH8JM5cQ2hGrRrcowy20fnNirXUzH6Cev03zc=; + b=WjGlevDWKM6mQEVjaSrCeNJUI1sGjN1lXgGzS4MOuiRqx5c3ch2UCaQGi02c8RvwZz + vg56yZqg8wECBzLXIpH6ggtwlaRh+3+4XIArkatkgRR49j/uQ2JRxRClhbg8fjSkSEGQ + DPA+TnXkiCfVdrEDuQ8Kzfh9C1PVGYFMx9KqE= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=Eo7kyLpSf2YCc1H0UX7+V8d6ldR0Q3hpKUktxU4zuaKMFwIYhBY7Bk9fg17YfqeEVl + Z3wgnwPhj3dOqsd9TxzLS3yeyusNxsxrzpu2qoUjjOAlMdAkRk3X7B6+o5mCzs6L0grk + jxbHeQVYEkRmYGPkePFz7EfDYCuqu/Be0K2vk= +Received: by 10.142.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr891013wfg.163.1218788761694; + Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:26:01 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808150126u4cf2a870uf59b9b75977af2a5@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:26:01 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Aaron Davies" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <489CAA73.5040208@cowan.name> + <18071eea0808120945t727470fdqab25e3c1564412e9@mail.gmail.com> + <20080812180343.GA21417@faui40p> + <18071eea0808121109o19931c56ic9c8ad2acc087e91@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813145526.GB21417@faui40p> + <20080813154538.GB5323@sc.homeunix.net> + +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Micah Cowan , + Stephane Chazelas , + Screen development , screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Man-writing volunteers? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1123 +Lines: 32 + +2008/8/15 Aaron Davies : +> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Stephane Chazelas +> wrote: +> +>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 04:55:26PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote: +> +>> > - (later) find a tool to generate both from one source +>> +>> About that, zsh uses yodl as a format that is then used to +>> produce texinfo and man pages. The result is good at least on +>> the info side. +>> +>> So you may want to consider that. I don't know what other +>> projects use. +> +> funny you should mention that--the zsh list in the middle of a thread +> called "Yodl has been discontinued for 13 years... zsh still uses it +> for texi docs?" otoh, their consensus seems to be that it would be +> hard enough for them to move to some other tool that they should +> become the new yodl maintainers.... + +Well, I already have a few candidates in mind as potential +single-source markup; yodl was never one of them, and certainly won't +be now. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 12:44:09 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E1343B225 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33376 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU2PB-0005YM-MR + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:44:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU2OB-0005AC-8m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:59 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU2OA-00059O-Ee + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:58 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49594 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU2O9-00059H-5A + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:57 -0400 +Received: from ultra.bl.org ([66.219.34.12]:56472) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KU2O8-0003xI-KV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:42:56 -0400 +Received: from lbb.austin.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by ultra.bl.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7FGgbN5026061 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:38 -0500 (CDT) +Message-Id: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +From: Michael Parson +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:35 -0500 +X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (ultra.bl.org [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:42:38 -0500 (CDT) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) +Subject: query current window title to stdout? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1036 +Lines: 42 + +I've got a user that wants to be able to, with a single command, +rename the title for the current window when he edits a file to the +name of the file he is editing. + +What I've come up with is a bash function: + +svim () { + echo -ne "\ekediting $1 \e\\" + /usr/local/bin/vim $1 + echo -ne "\ekbash\e\\" +} + +What I would like to be able to do, is query the title of the window +before we rename it, so we can set it back to what it was after the +editor quits. something like: + +oldname=`screen -X windowname` + +So I could change that last echo to be more like + +echo -ne "\ek$oldname\e\\" + +However, it seems that just about every screen command only spit +output to the status bar, hardline, or a new screen, except 'screen -l'. + +Can this be done? or is the solution I've come up with going to be +about as good as it gets? + +-- +Michael Parson +mparson@bl.org + + + + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 15:07:14 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E7E73DC19 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:07:14 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40485 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4df-0007yF-G3 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:07:07 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4dN-0007y3-J5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:06:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4dN-0007xr-3M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:06:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59679 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU4dM-0007xo-Ug + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:06:48 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:57584) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KU4dM-00021s-Fh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:06:48 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7B63C9007E; + Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:06:41 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A5D3C0.4020208@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:06:40 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Michael Parson +References: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +In-Reply-To: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: query current window title to stdout? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2609 +Lines: 73 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Michael Parson wrote: +> I've got a user that wants to be able to, with a single command, rename +> the title for the current window when he edits a file to the name of the +> file he is editing. +> +> What I've come up with is a bash function: +> +> svim () { +> echo -ne "\ekediting $1 \e\\" +> /usr/local/bin/vim $1 +> echo -ne "\ekbash\e\\" +> } +> +> What I would like to be able to do, is query the title of the window +> before we rename it, so we can set it back to what it was after the +> editor quits. something like: +> +> oldname=`screen -X windowname` + +Well, one problem is that the STY env var doesn't provide enough +information for screen to determine what window it's running in. And, as +you point out, screen doesn't really do much in the way of printing +session information (that would be quite helpful on some occasions, +though; I'll have to file an RFE for that - it still wouldn't help you +with window names, though). + +However, you might take advantage of the special "Dynamic Titles" +feature. Place something like: + + shelltitle "$ vim |bash" + +in your screenrc file, and set your prompt so that it emits "\ek\e\\" at +the beginning of the prompt. Screen will show the title as "bash", but +when it sees a line containing "$ vim " in it, it will set the window +title to the word that follows the "$ vim " instead, until it sees the +"\ek\e\\" again, at which point it will revert the title back to "bash". + +One disadvantage of this technique is that in order to keep this +behavior, changing titles means changing them to "$ vim |foo" rather +than just plain "foo". + +Also, not that "$ vim " assumes that those literal characters will +appear somewhere; if color escape sequences also appear, those would +also have to be made part of the "$ vim " portion. If it ends up being +too difficult to handle that, a plain "vim " might work instead. + +You'll probably want to protect your prompt by only inserting the +initial "\ek\e\\" if your .bashrc determines that $TERM matches the +pattern "screen*". + +- -- +HTH, +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIpdPA7M8hyUobTrERAkd7AJ0R4qOKO6y/fhvyzSQCk98879uNHQCghPou +/xFjhSyOzDFJDHtugMBeT74= +=GrXk +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 15:09:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6641973DC19 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60089 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4g8-0008TO-MZ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4fq-0008TF-J9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:22 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU4fp-0008Sf-95 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:22 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56564 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU4fp-0008SR-5E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:21 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:57754) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KU4fo-0002oe-Ub + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:09:21 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308D23C900F4; + Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:09:20 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48A5D45F.1050809@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:09:19 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Michael Parson +References: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> + <48A5D3C0.4020208@cowan.name> +In-Reply-To: <48A5D3C0.4020208@cowan.name> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: query current window title to stdout? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 906 +Lines: 32 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Micah Cowan wrote: +> However, you might take advantage of the special "Dynamic Titles" +> feature. + +Whoops! No, DON'T DO THAT. + +I forgot that the SEARCH portion of the "SEARCH|NAME" syntax _must_ be +seen on the prompt, and before the user starts typing input. Screen +halts output until it sees what it wants to see. Sorry... + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIpdRf7M8hyUobTrERApmjAJ9ud5RrUAYjQlTwjNWAw+xFF3pnDwCeMwvj +CNPah7RWaIvRjPHNIpLDSqY= +=Ghjj +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 17:02:26 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD8D73DE48 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:02:25 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35308 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU6R8-0005H1-NJ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:02:18 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU6QR-0004tm-PE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:01:35 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU6QN-0004qW-4o + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:01:35 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU6QM-0004q9-4e + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:01:30 -0400 +Received: from ultra.bl.org ([66.219.34.12]:55452) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KU6QL-00089V-49 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:01:30 -0400 +Received: from lbb.austin.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by ultra.bl.org (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m7FL1PPq002413; + Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:01:26 -0500 (CDT) +Message-Id: +From: Michael Parson +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:01:23 -0500 +References: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (ultra.bl.org [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:01:26 -0500 (CDT) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) +Subject: Re: query current window title to stdout? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1229 +Lines: 53 + + +On Aug 15, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Michael Parson wrote: + +> I've got a user that wants to be able to, with a single command, +> rename the title for the current window when he edits a file to the +> name of the file he is editing. + + + +> Can this be done? or is the solution I've come up with going to be +> about as good as it gets? + +working with a friend, we came up with this: + +_svim () { + /usr/bin/screen -X msgwait 5 + echo -ne "\ekediting $1\e\\" + /usr/bin/vim $1 + exit +} + +svim () { + tname=`basename $(mktemp -u)` + /usr/bin/screen -t $tname + /usr/bin/screen -X msgwait 0 + /usr/bin/screen -X at "$tname" stuff "_svim $1^M" +} + + +Which lets me do fun things like: + +for ij in foo1.pl foo2.pl foo3.pl do; svim $ij; done + +And have 3 new windows pop open with the new files in them, window +titles set appropriately, should be race-condition safe. + +This is all on a Linux box, using bash, and has the gnu mktemp +installed. Other systems will have to be modified as needed. + +-- +Michael Parson +mparson@bl.org + + + + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 15 17:51:27 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC2573DE84 + for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:27 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35790 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU7Cc-0006st-Kh + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:22 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU7CJ-0006rB-Cp + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KU7CI-0006qW-8C + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35080 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KU7CH-0006qQ-Ut + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:01 -0400 +Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:47148) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KU7CH-0007zT-8w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:51:01 -0400 +Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2008 21:50:56 -0000 +Received: from p5791FEDA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO blacktrash.org) + [87.145.254.218] + by mail.gmx.net (mp063) with SMTP; 15 Aug 2008 23:50:56 +0200 +X-Authenticated: #11198714 +X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19l6bNmHxdlGf5Zt9LLOiS1Dq2geQO1z7NCQ4XJQu + hgMF9lTft8o1n1 +Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:50:46 +0200 +From: Christian Ebert +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080815215046.GA26876@krille.blacktrash.org> +Mail-Followup-To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <0AAD6F58-7E0A-4E56-9A7D-C2CC05336F4D@bl.org> +Organization: Black Trash Productions +X-Face: )&#alA:[x"-#%%./(nuC&8n;#gqM;=mfY&ivRz@Gnv|AD_0l1Uz{fnJ^BW~OX[d;/)z! yV +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-07-10) +X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 +X-FuHaFi: 0.57 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +Subject: Re: query current window title to stdout? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1469 +Lines: 52 + +* Michael Parson on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 11:42:35 -0500 +> I've got a user that wants to be able to, with a single command, rename +> the title for the current window when he edits a file to the name of the +> file he is editing. +> +> What I've come up with is a bash function: +> +> svim () { +> echo -ne "\ekediting $1 \e\\" +> /usr/local/bin/vim $1 +> echo -ne "\ekbash\e\\" +> } +> +> What I would like to be able to do, is query the title of the window +> before we rename it, so we can set it back to what it was after the +> editor quits. something like: +> +> oldname=`screen -X windowname` +> +> So I could change that last echo to be more like +> +> echo -ne "\ek$oldname\e\\" +> +> However, it seems that just about every screen command only spit output +> to the status bar, hardline, or a new screen, except 'screen -l'. +> +> Can this be done? or is the solution I've come up with going to be about +> as good as it gets? + +If it's for vim, it can be (almost) done. I have the follwoing in +.vimrc: + +if &term =~ '^screen' + set title + " VimTip #1126 + set t_ts=^[k + set t_fs=^[\ + let &titleold = fnamemodify(&shell, ":t") +endif + +The "^[" is entered Ctrl-V [ + +c +-- +Vim plugin to paste current GNU Screen buffer in (almost) any mode: + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Aug 17 21:59:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB327DAF75 + for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46843 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KUu21-0000dM-4x + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:41 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KUu1i-0000d5-S8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:22 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KUu1g-0000ck-8S + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51854 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KUu1g-0000ch-51 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:20 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]:17945) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KUu1f-0005Mb-NL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:59:19 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1946716rvb.6 + for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:59:17 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=1P/7OvfG2MO3K2UMNsHE/6CQGCLIQ4xxffV5kIgp+zA=; + b=FGMX9WzYKNBk+By/HmJgaDB4i/+7FMGAHeBeoJVhkk7vAYuhEcjXPuZxWUPNCDy3rJ + xghnwhZ8PBqsugfuA2MxnOKEKIL8YA3QMMpJukdrCH4sL83jVEEurVvAv3vIdV8/em5e + +URr8wQsXyP2ekdHp5wQn8XZy1vBq1rPzhBmQ= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=NX3RX0LeAxRdbB0xIDgSLrQHqsErHCCNiPkmIzgvzuq2bnBr4TrqBjPXq/NdzWm6Et + R9fhNPwW1DeqJJZAknQDI7VGu3qO5Tj4QfKHfpVO/zfyB/HsDj0GeMCChzdWsLWfp1FK + v2bXtH0TYB53U3nCo0iQaALg0jBglYvGV+t6s= +Received: by 10.141.201.1 with SMTP id d1mr2889966rvq.117.1219024757506; + Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:59:17 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.162.4 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:59:17 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:59:17 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: set window title from nested screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 500 +Lines: 16 + +i can set the window title from a single-level screen (echo -ne +'\e]2;foo^G'), but when i try from a second-level nested screen, +nothing happens. + +i'm running putty-cyg on windows as my terminal, with cygwin zsh +running locally, running cygwin screen, ssh'ing into linux boxes, +running bash and screen remotely. +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 18 05:35:36 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBEF7DBBA5 + for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:35:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34977 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KV196-0001mh-RX + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:35:28 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KV17X-0001Jv-1p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:33:51 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KV17V-0001JR-BM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:33:50 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47520 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KV17V-0001JK-4t + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:33:49 -0400 +Received: from mail-out1.uio.no ([129.240.10.57]:40194) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KV17V-0000Av-IH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:33:49 -0400 +Received: from mail-mx6.uio.no ([129.240.10.47]) + by mail-out1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KV17P-0000ff-7I; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:33:43 +0200 +Received: from anakin.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.199]) + by mail-mx6.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KV17P-0000LJ-1B; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:33:43 +0200 +Received: from peder (helo=localhost) + by anakin.ifi.uio.no with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) + id 1KV17O-0003HY-Oj; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:33:42 +0200 +Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:33:42 +0200 (CEST) +From: Peder Stray +X-X-Sender: peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no +To: Aaron Davies +In-Reply-To: +Message-ID: +References: +User-Agent: Alpine 1.99 (LRH 1136 2008-08-12) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, + autolearn=disabled, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, + uiouri=NO) +X-UiO-Scanned: 8BA61B30BD724E71E2817F274C6115FA7974F1DF +X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.64.199 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 200 + minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 2 total 2995 max/h 63 blacklist 0 + greylist 0 ratelimit 0 +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: set window title from nested screen? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 788 +Lines: 27 + +On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Aaron Davies wrote: + +> i can set the window title from a single-level screen (echo -ne +> '\e]2;foo^G'), but when i try from a second-level nested screen, nothing +> happens. +> +> i'm running putty-cyg on windows as my terminal, with cygwin zsh running +> locally, running cygwin screen, ssh'ing into linux boxes, running bash +> and screen remotely. + +I use the following in my screenrc: + +hardstatus on +hardstatus string "[%?%h%:%t%?]" + +and use the normal \e]0;foo\a in my promt, which result in a plain foo in +a normal xterm, and [foo] if inside screen, [[foo]] if inside a dual +screen and so on. + +-- + Peder Stray + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 20 21:16:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA417DF5E4 + for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:16:47 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52136 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KVyn4-0005w3-FO + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:16:42 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KVylu-0005d1-35 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:15:30 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KVylr-0005bN-DK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:15:28 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59642 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KVylr-0005bK-8Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:15:27 -0400 +Received: from x219233.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp ([122.249.219.233]:3507 + helo=les.ath.cx) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KVylq-0008Vg-U3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:15:27 -0400 +Received: by les.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id C9D418661F; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:15:16 +0900 (JST) +Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:15:16 +0900 +From: YONETANI Tomokazu +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080821011516.GA99283@les.ath.cx> +References: <20080811113847.GA73597@les.ath.cx> <48A3379C.2080306@cowan.name> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <48A3379C.2080306@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +Subject: Re: bug #23945 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1203 +Lines: 32 + +On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:35:56PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: +> > Hi. +> > After the fix to #23945 (cb9d14bd8a198447d20ccd4be848df679a3047d9) committed, +> > the cursor temporarily displayed at the wrong place when I enter copy-mode +> > and move the cursor while "Copy mode - ..." caption is displayed. The +> > cursor stays at the wrong place on the terminal until I refresh the screen +> > or select the top-left corner of the region. It only happens when the +> > following conditions are met: +> > - the cursor is at the last line of the screen, without a status line +> > - the cursor is not at the beginning of the line +> > +> > Anyone else seeing this? +> +> I do. If I hit "k" immediately upon entering copy-mode, the cursor moves +> to the first column, but the copy behaves as if it's in its original column. +> +> Thanks for the report! Issue filed at +> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?24058 + +Oh, thanks for filing it, and I confirmed it's been fixed now. + +Cheers. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 09:14:34 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B847E1101 + for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:14:34 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44340 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KWWTD-00032O-Mt + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:14:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KVvo5-00078U-3u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:33 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KVvo4-00078F-FD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:32 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60868 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KVvo4-00078C-9F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:32 -0400 +Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.185]:8758) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KVvo3-0007OF-L7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:31 -0400 +Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i36so102032gve.17 + for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:29 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=AVR8CZYn9iyF9weknJBUCRbYaEoK/5nFBly5xwu5Lp4=; + b=dUGk+Y5EQP414EH6K0HYBlKVemZ/ARA6RPdjqsCXRqJjq5m6CmUqV6/p055TiT/Skb + J7SfFU3gspTcoSbMQVTvnGcCExymIp62SsHQ7Afm7yfg5UUFTo7rxtfYzCIMRuzahX4T + ojMEWQhftKd8DU4Tp6oh9XDZzeGBOlHzkt00A= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=YO0iwwO7fgBx/UZ84EzJxomUEGNWobd440gDPeKo5Fwj6Z6D+4qa1++jM9LThEZrfF + 8Ybp1evIfJNC/7HeKx4t9SqHDfyhZ0cuMnKR2wzLyjEKqbL+irZtJgb7Cs8p7yBHBPiM + 0cHX040j7erejHw7Wm3EzUHV6xG0kndFhGOXE= +Received: by 10.103.176.2 with SMTP id d2mr451103mup.112.1219269928976; + Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:28 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.103.22.17 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:28 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:05:28 -0700 +From: "Cameron Dale" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:14:03 -0400 +Subject: F1/F2/F3/F4 don't work on my new laptop +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1389 +Lines: 42 + +Hi, + +I have been using screen for a while, and I have my function keys +bound to changing the selected terminal like so: + +# Use the function keys to switch among windows. +bindkey -k k1 select 1 +bindkey -k k2 select 2 +bindkey -k k3 select 3 +bindkey -k k4 select 4 +bindkey -k k5 select 5 + +I also have this to (according to the comment where I copied it from) +enable the function keys in screen: + +termcapinfo xterm 'k1=\E[11~:k2=\E[12~:k3=\E[13~:k4=\E[14~' + +However, with my new eeepc laptop this is causing problems. Now, F1 F2 +F3 and F4 no longer work only on the laptop. If I remove the +termcapinfo line from .screenrc the laptop works fine, but then on all +my other machines F1-F4 stops working! Most frustrating. + +I understand this might be related to the terminfo database on my +laptop, but I'm not sure what change to make so that it works like my +other machines. Or, perhaps I need to add another termcapinfo line or +more bindkey lines to my .screenrc to make the function keys work with +the laptop too. If I press ctrl-q and then the F1 - F4 keys, I get the +following key codes from screen: + +^[OP ^[OQ ^[OR ^[OS + +But I'm not sure what I need to add to .screenrc so they get +transformed into function keys. 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Now, F1 F2 +F3 and F4 no longer work only on the laptop. If I remove the +termcapinfo line from .screenrc the laptop works fine, but then on all +my other machines F1-F4 stops working! Most frustrating. + +I understand this might be related to the terminfo database on my +laptop, but I'm not sure what change to make so that it works like my +other machines. Or, perhaps I need to add another termcapinfo line or +more bindkey lines to my .screenrc to make the function keys work with +the laptop too. If I press ctrl-q and then the F1 - F4 keys, I get the +following key codes from screen: + +^[OP ^[OQ ^[OR ^[OS + +But I'm not sure what I need to add to .screenrc so they get +transformed into function keys. Please help! + +Thanks, +Cameron + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 15:11:21 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AD57DB86A + for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:11:21 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47185 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KWc2T-00019I-3L + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:11:13 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KWc23-00016B-Cy + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:10:47 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KWc22-00014Z-FN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:10:46 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43905 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KWc22-00014P-BB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:10:46 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:48633) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KWc22-0005pp-A3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:10:46 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3E4408803E; + Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:10:44 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48AF0F33.90808@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:10:43 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Cameron Dale +References: + +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: F1/F2/F3/F4 don't work on my new laptop +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2688 +Lines: 74 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Cameron Dale wrote: +> Hi, +> +> I have been using screen for a while, and I have my function keys +> bound to changing the selected terminal like so: +> +> # Use the function keys to switch among windows. +> bindkey -k k1 select 1 +> bindkey -k k2 select 2 +> bindkey -k k3 select 3 +> bindkey -k k4 select 4 +> bindkey -k k5 select 5 +> +> I also have this to (according to the comment where I copied it from) +> enable the function keys in screen: +> +> termcapinfo xterm 'k1=\E[11~:k2=\E[12~:k3=\E[13~:k4=\E[14~' + +This tells screen to ignore what termcap/terminfo might really have for +k1, and use these entries instead. + +> However, with my new eeepc laptop this is causing problems. Now, F1 F2 +> F3 and F4 no longer work only on the laptop. If I remove the +> termcapinfo line from .screenrc the laptop works fine, but then on all +> my other machines F1-F4 stops working! Most frustrating. + +Sounds like, on the system you're using for the laptop, the original +terminfo lines are correct. + +> I understand this might be related to the terminfo database on my +> laptop, but I'm not sure what change to make so that it works like my +> other machines. Or, perhaps I need to add another termcapinfo line or +> more bindkey lines to my .screenrc to make the function keys work with +> the laptop too. If I press ctrl-q and then the F1 - F4 keys, I get the +> following key codes from screen: +> +> ^[OP ^[OQ ^[OR ^[OS +> +> But I'm not sure what I need to add to .screenrc so they get +> transformed into function keys. Please help! + +Why not use the .screenrc without those lines on your laptop, and the +ones with them on all others? If you have two terminal versions which +respect two different sequences, you can't really expect to have both +the same terminfo definition and the same .screenrc for them both. + +What terminal emulator are you using, gnome-terminal? Gnome-terminal +isn't perfectly compatible with xterm, especially when it comes to +special key controls; but it advertises itself as xterm. Probably +because of apps like vim (and screen) that recognize "xterm" as +providing mouse support, but not gnome-terminal. + +- -- +Micah J. 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Now, F1 F2 +>> F3 and F4 no longer work only on the laptop. If I remove the +>> termcapinfo line from .screenrc the laptop works fine, but then on all +>> my other machines F1-F4 stops working! Most frustrating. +> +> Sounds like, on the system you're using for the laptop, the original +> terminfo lines are correct. + +If they're correct, shouldn't the termcapinfo line do nothing then, +that is overwrite the correct ones with entries that are also correct? +Sorry, I know almost nothing about termcap/info. + +> Why not use the .screenrc without those lines on your laptop, and the +> ones with them on all others? If you have two terminal versions which +> respect two different sequences, you can't really expect to have both +> the same terminfo definition and the same .screenrc for them both. + +The problem is when I ssh into a server machine from different places, +then screen runs on the server and uses the server's .screenrc file. +Either I have the termcapinfo line in .screenrc on the server and all +desktops work but my laptop doesn't, or I remove the line to get my +laptop to work and the desktops no longer work. + +> What terminal emulator are you using, gnome-terminal? Gnome-terminal +> isn't perfectly compatible with xterm, especially when it comes to +> special key controls; but it advertises itself as xterm. Probably +> because of apps like vim (and screen) that recognize "xterm" as +> providing mouse support, but not gnome-terminal. + +I'm using konsole, and it looks like that might be the culprit. I +tried running xterm on my desktop instead, and it behaves just like my +laptop (works fine without the termcapinfo line). I'll try on some of +my other machines later tonight. + +Thanks, +Cameron + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Aug 25 22:16:50 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4E97DE6E4 + for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:50 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39774 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KXo6t-0006ix-SQ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:43 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KXo6Y-0006hJ-V1 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:23 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KXo6X-0006h7-DD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:21 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36244 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXo6X-0006h4-78 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:21 -0400 +Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.190]:11820) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KXo6W-0007wB-RF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:16:21 -0400 +Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1109938tia.10 + for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:17 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.110.105.10 with SMTP id d10mr5830558tic.52.1219716977436; + Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:17 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.110.90.3 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:17 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <77f930110808251916k19645396je8372951b03c284@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:16:17 +0900 +From: "Seongsu Lee" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <77f930110808210016q6805431bkebcc3d69a30b0124@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <77f930110808130509v52091164pc4faa345a9f6db73@mail.gmail.com> + <20080813160815.GC5323@sc.homeunix.net> + <77f930110808210016q6805431bkebcc3d69a30b0124@mail.gmail.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: reading custom .bashrc +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 806 +Lines: 24 + +Hello, + +I tried following directives in .screenrc but failed. It say it's +invalid. Do you know how to specify arguments in launching shell? +Thank you. + + shell -$SHELL --rcfile ~/.my_custom_bashrc + +On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Stephane Chazelas + wrote: +> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 09:09:25PM +0900, Seongsu Lee wrote: +>> I have my own bashrc file named '$HOME/.{USERNAM}/bashrc'. I want the bash +>> shell read the custom bashrc file when I create a new window every time in +>> GNU screen. Do you have some configurations for this in screenrc? Or +>> some tricks to do this? Thank you. +> [...] +> +> See the --rcfile option to bash. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 05:26:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFA57E0C5F + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:26:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56537 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYHIJ-0006vE-Hd + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:26:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYHH7-0006gB-Ac + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:25:13 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYHH5-0006e0-FU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:25:12 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37224 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYHH4-0006dC-MI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:25:10 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.243]:15838) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KYHH4-0006cB-9j + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:25:10 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2533759rvb.6 + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:25:08 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=GPsw9GVqyjP+OTGzYk9tMUFEANadBFV2l4YRL0OOtKk=; + b=VBsuI6eiIsnEOFrCZ6VH0/+8VJtmptc7CzfvZU0ifqwCK1yyN0f8mgOA/wxR+OQDEO + K+vo6z08bNom0umPCjzgRMPsDf1BUlVzAmIgV/uhUzF2pcC1lHpax8Xxa6jADk3503C9 + 3viOIORVrTMNrVzwFuXB/J+p6/bVdN5hc3D0U= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=chXDgesTnoGpc0BEnywv2L2pLp2Wk87grJKC2dAvgkWndhnVirWiuF7g5LLzp98U7a + 4SW6Z4KqA/DSjslfLFCRmbcl7z5STGtwZj+u+HKYvJJDK/+O7b+Dbh7HwZr+R60UEfWx + 1qNKpZqYLStMQuMo+rEeJvCsnEKtCl4mvi93g= +Received: by 10.140.148.3 with SMTP id v3mr3445136rvd.139.1219829108735; + Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:25:08 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.178.12 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:25:08 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:25:08 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: prefer share to hijack? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1087 +Lines: 31 + +is there an easy way to get the "get me a screen at any cost" behavior +of -D -RR while still preferring to share (-x) rather than forcibly +detach any existing screen? my common case is logging onto linux boxes +from my primary work desktop, and there may or may not be previous +screens around--i want them back if there are, i want new ones if +there aren't. the rare case though is logging onto the same boxes from +my work laptop to demo something on the projector, in which case +there's almost certainly existing screens around, which are probably +still attached on my windows box. i'd prefer if i didn't have to +reconnect everything when i get back to my desktop. + +the only solution i can think of is something like + +screen -ls && screen -x || screen -D -RR + +(which is actually redundant, isn't it? shouldn't that reduce to + +screen -ls && screen -x || screen + +?) + +but that seems kind of inelegant. +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 09:21:31 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2A07DFDD5 + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:21:30 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36336 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYKxg-0007QK-HX + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:21:24 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KXiGJ-0002nt-A8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KXiGH-0002kd-FD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39580 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KXiGH-0002kT-BM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:01 -0400 +Received: from mailout1.echostar.com ([204.76.128.101]:1344) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KXiGG-0000sH-UE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:02:01 -0400 +Received: from MER2-EXCHA2.echostar.com ([10.3.215.82]) by + MER2-EXCHFE2.echostar.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); + Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:31:57 -0600 +X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 +Content-class: urn:content-classes:message +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="US-ASCII" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:31:57 -0600 +Message-ID: <324C88FC4EFDF54EA0E2526D49CA2D5E018EF245@MER2-EXCHA2.echostar.com> +In-Reply-To: +X-MS-Has-Attach: +X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: +Thread-Topic: Re-attaching split screens +Thread-Index: AckGw+aaCzoK5VHGT5GdiPzz6Fk4oAAEFx+w +From: "Gorsuch, Ryan" +To: +X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Aug 2008 19:31:57.0443 (UTC) + FILETIME=[3CD3CD30:01C906E9] +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows XP SP1+, 2000 SP3 +X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at monty-python; + Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:01:59 EDT +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:19:45 -0400 +Subject: Re-attaching split screens +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 935 +Lines: 22 + +Hello fellow screen users. I'd like to be able to detach a screen +session, and then reattach and have my split screen restored and showing +the same windows as before I detached. Currently when I reattach, my +splits are gone, and I get a single window shown. To restore it I have +to split my screen a few times, change focus to each window, and switch +to the window I want in that region.=20 + +I found a post by a developer which seemed that it might be possible to +"save layouts" but I can't find any documentation for this in the +"Changes" file for the most recent release (4.0.3) or in the online +manual at /soft/local/common/rman/current. Any ideas about how I might +do this, or when a feature like this might be available? + +I'm running Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03. + +Ryan=20 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 10:17:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB707D97F2 + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:17:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54837 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYLpf-0001Mn-OC + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:17:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYLo1-0000e0-Qj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:29 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYLnz-0000cI-Ke + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:28 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49514 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYLnz-0000cB-8J + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:27 -0400 +Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.155]:58440) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KYLny-0004La-S8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:15:27 -0400 +Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so1261618yxf.66 + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:15:20 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=nE16WetwIvAvJQ21hlpAhYwrQ0xXf3LGXddPXOKNrkY=; + b=Kt6CXoyegSWWfRQzE8aKLUVdU4wsBx2hkSsLhaMvMaiaMIoeoWGKH9MiYiIXXMCw0r + agQkff6CI8oaUsNdkspiygBWg6sD5U0Xjls0wRBeSnof3jWFZ43gVLGv/e8nMG4Tm89P + icryn8+elESTKr7ObV5RhLmQAGbvKUi4HaRxw= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=BDeSmL1xuBkbFjHYCEhFiaL3MkIx37UImOAhm3zyVN1Afi2gIrIjJC+q3jJoS/dk1W + ibqin9hOG8vh6KuzkYcsVn1xQLadD/DZVHQ5d96xvtdSbmxtTHxpJWZdahbA6fsH+GnV + QTifMeYHnqUe564hBhYGOQOJOEQ1cvIShKlos= +Received: by 10.142.173.14 with SMTP id v14mr2494323wfe.231.1219846520216; + Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:15:20 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:14:53 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808270714w6cec6967m3817b48c0cbf55a9@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:14:53 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: "Gorsuch, Ryan" +In-Reply-To: <324C88FC4EFDF54EA0E2526D49CA2D5E018EF245@MER2-EXCHA2.echostar.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: + <324C88FC4EFDF54EA0E2526D49CA2D5E018EF245@MER2-EXCHA2.echostar.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Re-attaching split screens +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1109 +Lines: 26 + +2008/8/25 Gorsuch, Ryan : +> Hello fellow screen users. I'd like to be able to detach a screen +> session, and then reattach and have my split screen restored and showing +> the same windows as before I detached. Currently when I reattach, my +> splits are gone, and I get a single window shown. To restore it I have +> to split my screen a few times, change focus to each window, and switch +> to the window I want in that region. + +Running screen within screen is the more "portable" way for versions +of screen which aren't the GIT version. + +> I found a post by a developer which seemed that it might be possible to +> "save layouts" but I can't find any documentation for this in the +> "Changes" file for the most recent release (4.0.3) or in the online +> manual at /soft/local/common/rman/current. Any ideas about how I might +> do this, or when a feature like this might be available? + +http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?23597 + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 08:55:05 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5B47DC3C2 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:55:05 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50638 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ3VD-0000J5-6n + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:54:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYQPJ-0002lh-GB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:10:17 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYQPH-0002kr-KU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:10:16 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35975 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYQPH-0002kh-DK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:10:15 -0400 +Received: from quesera.com ([208.72.84.33]:62907) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KYQPH-00048B-AE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:10:15 -0400 +Received: from lorelei.quesera.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by quesera.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9E41D27F + for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:09:53 +0000 (UTC) +Received: (from reynhout@localhost) + by lorelei.quesera.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m7RJ9rGk016216 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:09:53 GMT +Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:09:53 +0000 +From: reynhout@quesera.com +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:54:35 -0400 +Subject: Patch to move and renumber windows, screen-4.0.3 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1797 +Lines: 48 + + +Hi, + +I've written a minor patch against 4.0.3 to add the ability to move +windows right or left (up or down?) slot-by-slot (without using the +:number UI), and also to renumber all active windows starting with 0, +eliminating gaps created by exited windows. + +See http://www.quesera.com/reynhout/misc/screen+bumpandcollapse +for more. + +This is useful to me -- I often have very long-lived screen instances +on gateway machines that I use to reach dozens of other machines. +Some of those sessions are also very long-lived, but some are very +ephemeral, so I frequently have a mess of windows that I'd like to +reorganize. :number works well, but can be tedious for large sets. + +If this is useful to anyone else, let me know and I'll work out the +remaining details. Namely: + + - I stole the key sequences from readbuf, writebuf, removebuf. + Dreadful etiquette, I realize, but the keys (<, >, =) were + ideal for the purpose, and acceptable for private build use. + Please let me know if you can think of another good set! + + - The patch is for 4.0.3, but a quick glance at the 4.1.0 code + suggests that it'll be simple to port. + + - I've written no documentation in the patch. + +Actions are bumpleft (C-a <), bumpright (C-a >), and collapse (C-a =). +They all use the code from RC_NUMBER, extracted out into a fun called +SwapWindows. I'm not doing any direct wtab manipulation, so hopefully +the patch is as stable as the existing code. I've tested on OSX and +Solaris in my fairly simple config and use cases, and it works for me. +If you're able to test the patch out, I'll happily take bug reports. + +Thank you, +Andrew + +-- +reynhout@quesera.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 08:56:01 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FC47DC3C2 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:56:01 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51039 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ3W8-0001T6-Df + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:55:56 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYZOd-0004Nv-AL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:11 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KYZOb-0004Nf-S3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:10 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38790 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYZOb-0004Nc-Ez + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:09 -0400 +Received: from vilnius.csail.mit.edu ([18.26.0.69]:52718) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KYZOb-0001xF-9P + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:09 -0400 +Received: from vilnius.csail.mit.edu (vilnius.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]) + by vilnius.csail.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m7S4k8JT016427 + for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:08 -0400 +Received: (from richman@localhost) + by vilnius.csail.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m7S4k8NP016426 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:08 -0400 +Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:46:08 -0400 +From: Steven Richman +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080828044608.GA16101@vilnius.csail.mit.edu> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:54:35 -0400 +Subject: "sleep" only works at startup/reattach? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 583 +Lines: 20 + +Hi, + +Is it possible to do a "sleep" outside of my startup screenrc? + +If I put "sleep 5" in my screenrc, then screen sleeps as expected at startup. +If I later source screenrc or any other script with a sleep in it, though, the +sleep gets skipped. Similarly, if I "bindkey x eval 'sleep 5' 'stuff moose'" +the sleep gets skipped. + +So, is there any way to get a pause in the action within a key binding or +sourced script? + +Thanks, +Steven + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 09:38:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE0C7D9F05 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:38:04 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42199 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ4Ap-0005BU-4h + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:37:59 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ46z-0001n4-L6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:34:01 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ46x-0001l1-UD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:34:01 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35854 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ46x-0001kn-Oi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:33:59 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]:48558) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KZ46x-0002ki-Hf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:33:59 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1064593wfc.24 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:33:57 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=54qsEaaj6uyxGj4f3QAWVPhQKdXkDvFZNWqkJfmbZP4=; + b=oi23h4doRkD1qwHD/UBi3It1MVNejo1Rfonaw99oF2os5fRO0gIoC9WCoD4kp1+fZM + K7WWYel9x96zsXmjyxwpiKj7sR6NBsCxOd4RWpu+O+3zlHPHPKtDe2llpayyb1W/Vay4 + 5eg39JP5DXxujxE9GDMICxjN/YfD0CKkX2gWw= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=CzeapcLDLyhKc6jHS4YtsXVOS/lbyuOWtnYVmVaTpNe2DR8lLFPArzE96EmFKeuWpU + UxxPXApPGUJI8dkEjFbdKM/b9LBSihsLFaMgPRj0qbYWY/qZw/topvdZ8pjIuo/QHEJ1 + WQxrqd/aneryrXOAIeuj5upXaUaasFL6fqTb8= +Received: by 10.142.47.6 with SMTP id u6mr967956wfu.91.1220016837700; + Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:33:57 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.104.15 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:33:57 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0808290633q4ce88940t9eb6fe55a4c22fd0@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:33:57 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: reynhout@quesera.com +In-Reply-To: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Patch to move and renumber windows, screen-4.0.3 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 858 +Lines: 24 + +Hello -- + +2008/8/27 : +> - I've written no documentation in the patch. + +Then until you do, I am going to reject this patch outright. +Regardless of whether or not this patch is applied to GIT in time for +the next release is another matter entirely. But since you're making +user-visible changes and adding in a new command, the documentation is +a vital part of your patch. + +Not having ever looked at the patch (sorry, no time) does it handle +renumbering window in layouts correctly? Recall that a layout can +have any number of differently numbered windows -- renumbering those +such that it doesn't conflict with another window number in a layout +is going to be an issue. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 10:04:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E037DC544 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:04:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50075 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ4aX-0000Ps-HX + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:04:33 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ4Zs-0000FF-Jk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:03:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ4Zo-0000Dg-OE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:03:52 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46501 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ4Zo-0000Db-JG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:03:48 -0400 +Received: from quesera.com ([208.72.84.33]:37721) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KZ4Zo-0007V2-ES + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:03:48 -0400 +Received: from lorelei.quesera.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by quesera.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447CD1D4BB; + Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:03:31 +0000 (UTC) +Received: (from reynhout@localhost) + by lorelei.quesera.com (8.14.2+Sun/8.14.2/Submit) id m7TE3U6d028958; + Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:03:30 GMT +Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:03:30 +0000 +From: reynhout@quesera.com +To: Thomas Adam +Message-ID: <20080829140330.GF4745@quesera.com> +References: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> + <18071eea0808290633q4ce88940t9eb6fe55a4c22fd0@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808290633q4ce88940t9eb6fe55a4c22fd0@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Patch to move and renumber windows, screen-4.0.3 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1050 +Lines: 31 + +On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 02:33:57PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> 2008/8/27 : +> > - I've written no documentation in the patch. +> +> Then until you do, I am going to reject this patch outright. + +Absolutely. The patch is not prepared for submission to the repo, +for the above reason as well as the others I mentioned. And you +raise a new question too, w/r/t layouts, which I'll investigate. + +There might well be other things I haven't thought of too, which +is why I posted the patch info -- I've spent a total of about three +hours in the screen source, so if the functionality offered by the +patch has resonance with other folks on the list, I'm interested in +hearing more contextually-aware perspectives on the approach. + +In the meantime, the patch works for me in my simple config and +use model, so it might be useful as-is to others. + +Thanks, +Andrew + + +-- +reynhout@quesera.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 11:51:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0587DC716 + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56352 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6GC-0003Xc-65 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6FY-0003OU-MW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:00 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6FX-0003Nn-6m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:00 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52741 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ6FW-0003Ni-TJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:50:58 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:59897) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6FX-0007sX-3O + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:50:59 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3639E3C8C066; + Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:50:51 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48B81AD9.4010209@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:50:49 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Thomas Adam +References: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> + <18071eea0808290633q4ce88940t9eb6fe55a4c22fd0@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0808290633q4ce88940t9eb6fe55a4c22fd0@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Patch to move and renumber windows, screen-4.0.3 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 991 +Lines: 32 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Thomas Adam wrote: +> Not having ever looked at the patch (sorry, no time) does it handle +> renumbering window in layouts correctly? Recall that a layout can +> have any number of differently numbered windows -- renumbering those +> such that it doesn't conflict with another window number in a layout +> is going to be an issue. + +If that's true, wouldn't it already be an issue with the current +RC_NUMBER code? + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIuBrZ7M8hyUobTrERAghvAJ4+3uXSHo5YKKDuBidhiXaN/oAMqwCbBfCb +GQiOJnrIDqkHBKW0V2/+ly8= +=h6na +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 11:52:35 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B71B7D9C7F + for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:52:35 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56819 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6Gz-00041h-EM + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:52:29 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6Ff-0003Rv-3u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KZ6Fe-0003RR-Ai + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52742 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZ6Fe-0003RF-2y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:06 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:59955) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KZ6Fe-0007wg-2T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:51:06 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F0D3C8C066; + Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:51:05 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48B81AE8.9000601@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:51:04 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: reynhout@quesera.com +References: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> +In-Reply-To: <20080827190953.GB4745@quesera.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Patch to move and renumber windows, screen-4.0.3 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1443 +Lines: 43 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +reynhout@quesera.com wrote: +> Hi, +> +> I've written a minor patch against 4.0.3 to add the ability to move +> windows right or left (up or down?) slot-by-slot (without using the +> :number UI), and also to renumber all active windows starting with 0, +> eliminating gaps created by exited windows. + +Hi, reynhout, thanks for the patch. + +> Actions are bumpleft (C-a <), bumpright (C-a >), and collapse (C-a =). + +Sadrul has already added the equivalent functionality for "bumpleft" and +"bumpright", with "number -1" and "number +1" (which are also probably +not yet in the documentation). These don't have bindings by default, but +of course one is quite welcome to set them up in one's ~/.screenrc. + +Collapse looks useful, but we'll hold off on this for the time being. +This is the sort of thing that could also make a good use case for +Sadrul's scripting extensions. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIuBro7M8hyUobTrERAmzAAJwN31vVOcdaQSfcm/8dFQk+JwAUgwCfaUyE +2Td3cllWT4ilnJSg0qu+a90= +=a4R/ +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 2 21:33:15 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7EC7DBFD1 + for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:33:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57864 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KahF4-0002dg-Oe + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:33:06 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KahEk-0002cD-7c + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:46 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KahEi-0002aE-11 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:45 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45114 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KahEh-0002aB-Rw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:43 -0400 +Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]:59433) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KahEh-0001wl-Bv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:43 -0400 +Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1913507wag.10 + for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=38Pb6wwj01tEWbq8p1jxZ+j0zOyGbDKwi/m1wOq2Ea0=; + b=ohpG3fZqEu4FVzy9y5IS+tsRxCxaMgMCoPxQ3LG1D+144HynPcLDZ/TTmfNAje+/sr + XJd91O5r9aLhpLegUaTYQkhz96SfcKpSqThE4hlc8t07l2n/bqbRWv5J8xu3Kv+XgOPP + qv6KiaRd28F2K7okTfgb7aw2y119AWcyARkHI= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=H8G4zlCYWHRw57IAOP+kgqd2ukB5hVg2SzNIYRPo8GTs9GVYlxuTX8z7KQ9fAIHMry + xKymQZgcyhl2Cx1Pq6fo+e0oo5smoD1NWFUPq3LqAV4rwihVZsNVU46k6AiFz6E2EgaQ + x+CqBipzF9kpqTUpu9KvsEEN46REsYRR6jh5A= +Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr7005924wao.184.1220405561518; + Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.114.53.14 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:32:40 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:32:40 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: resize a screen on creation? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 910 +Lines: 20 + +this is trivial, but it's been bugging me for a while. when i add a +bunch of screens at once from inside a running screen (using a shell +loop or something) all but the first don't resize to match the +terminal window until they're focused--when i first jump to them, if +it's running a shell, the prompt will be positioned 24 lines from the +bottom of the window, not at the top; if it's running a curses app, it +will be sized for 24x80; etc. Also, my caption won't add any but the +first new screen until I change screens again (or issue :redisplay). +Any way around either of these? (i should mention i'm running screen +4.00.02, the stock version for SuSE 9.3, so if these are fixed in HEAD +or something, that's cool too. :) +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Sep 3 13:35:00 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB167DC7CA + for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:35:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44281 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KawFo-0007vI-0g + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:34:52 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KawEF-0007Ca-5u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:33:15 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KawEE-0007AV-94 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:33:14 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35919 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KawED-0007AA-OO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:33:13 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.241]:17093) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KawED-0008Qw-7a + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:33:13 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2948002rvb.6 + for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=rtLyOtNBJXhRMYbeKJ6X6Vy6rlTim8M854sj0lhL3kQ=; + b=lgXCLBiK0gjDDZhd4WOYKwcRJtJ2FyTN8L31Ma5Gd+OBdinl6I3XINUK820V8nJ2JK + 5lgtlpljGToa/a0WHqLWBYBumxbVCdnE8yzO/Ans/7KawxEvbb0bcSvRgt0woy//mk+p + Vty9lGDR6qgqi4CbsuhMrwFi37iY9Am7105dg= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=QTFs0QIvY6ORzFSRnuV5WUDk5HAJbiRBD+jQDS+nLWRb6Hjcak7qdcX+DTBteveyj7 + 9A+CIR0VvhLTAZckFyVKFFdWg13J9eNJDwdmdKxqVqmoEHsvCL6TcPTO3v5mgCK+1Urs + Mo9XXY3zNhX6oMy0KFYX7Mw09DeMahJQlevMg= +Received: by 10.141.171.1 with SMTP id y1mr5060193rvo.252.1220463191579; + Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.141.153.19 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:33:11 -0400 +From: "Andy Harrison" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: resize a screen on creation? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1784 +Lines: 61 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + + + +On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Aaron Davies wrote: +> this is trivial, but it's been bugging me for a while. when i add a +> bunch of screens at once from inside a running screen (using a shell +> loop or something) all but the first don't resize to match the +> terminal window until they're focused--when i first jump to them, if +> it's running a shell, the prompt will be positioned 24 lines from the +> bottom of the window, not at the top; if it's running a curses app, it +> will be sized for 24x80; etc. Also, my caption won't add any but the +> first new screen until I change screens again (or issue :redisplay). +> Any way around either of these? (i should mention i'm running screen +> 4.00.02, the stock version for SuSE 9.3, so if these are fixed in HEAD +> or something, that's cool too. :) + + +If you have your COLUMNS and LINES environment variables populated, +screen honors them. + +I tried this in my .tcshrc file (which would be much much simpler to +express in your .bashrc file) and it seems to solve that annoyance +just fine. + +set screen_size = ( `stty size` ) + +if ( ! $?LINES && ! $?COLUMNS ) then + foreach element ( $screen_size ) + if ( ! $?LINES ) then + setenv LINES $element + endif + + if ( ! $?COLUMNS ) then + setenv COLUMNS $element + endif + end +endif + + + +- -- +Andy Harrison +public key: 0x67518262 + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: http://getfiregpg.org + +iD8DBQFIvspXNTm8fWdRgmIRApMGAKCBlZ6Tf7noznRHYdzQmcFUffljpwCfdTxD +80XxC4mfSKFMMZcMUpaUPdU= +=PCrX +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Sep 3 20:43:25 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223A87E0C4C + for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:43:23 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40198 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kb2wM-0003dg-4o + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:43:14 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kb2vx-0003XG-PC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:42:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kb2vw-0003Uf-Ku + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:42:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47407 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb2vw-0003US-G7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:42:48 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.248]:1962) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kb2vv-00036D-UR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:42:48 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so3103020rvb.6 + for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:42:46 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=0dnO2CqMa6FRrCNIOWRw6Uw9sN/0UbwR0i74xsO1xbs=; + b=sVU687cOWW5MHKq0vudgEjAILN0vTwHXXeVu0enEsMPYbFWi+4ZIeaCnnnhsuZuA+O + Lvikmxkng9P7u0SlQaZL6/2bHLZuZeycEAMS6gqcQ13usYza7mO0A7YGpobxDWKOphBX + TZiqAvwzvmez0EVk1sOBXsPJ5OgKAx8aocpRM= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=NxRoGr2HJKkKDImHvLWfJNif5+nL3YOYCT4nWy+mgDfBRCP29xn1jyVUO3EInzceBN + i/ahXH8Y7kzQHoKskHLP0vikgoDYH2+LNvCvDfyqQa5GRH7XEFuxQgUe4bQND/P1eFTY + 5RFcn8PHmSALLzlAdRw20LXMF+avlj4KrzvUI= +Received: by 10.141.53.4 with SMTP id f4mr5314801rvk.82.1220488966319; + Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:42:46 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.178.12 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:42:46 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:42:46 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: + +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: resize a screen on creation? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1984 +Lines: 40 + +On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Andy Harrison wrote: +> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Aaron Davies wrote: +>> this is trivial, but it's been bugging me for a while. when i add a +>> bunch of screens at once from inside a running screen (using a shell +>> loop or something) all but the first don't resize to match the +>> terminal window until they're focused--when i first jump to them, if +>> it's running a shell, the prompt will be positioned 24 lines from the +>> bottom of the window, not at the top; if it's running a curses app, it +>> will be sized for 24x80; etc. Also, my caption won't add any but the +>> first new screen until I change screens again (or issue :redisplay). +>> Any way around either of these? (i should mention i'm running screen +>> 4.00.02, the stock version for SuSE 9.3, so if these are fixed in HEAD +>> or something, that's cool too. :) +> +> If you have your COLUMNS and LINES environment variables populated, +> screen honors them. +> +> I tried this in my .tcshrc file (which would be much much simpler to +> express in your .bashrc file) and it seems to solve that annoyance +> just fine. + +hmm. before i can see if that works for me, i think i need to solve a +possibly related problem: my LINES and COLUMNS vars don't even make it +into screen. i have `eval resize` near the end of my .bash_profile, +which sets and exports them, so they should show up in any subprocess, +right? i don't have any shell setting in my .screenrc, so screen +should run non-login instances of my regular shell, i.e. bash w/the +.bashrc executed, but not the .bash_profile. nonetheless, after login +but before starting screen, i find that LINES and COLUMNS are set; +after starting screen and checking from inside, i find that they're +not. why are they not getting passed down? +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 09:25:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7B47DC776 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:25:42 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46913 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbEq2-0007o7-TI + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:25:31 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KaXgw-0007NI-4M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:21:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KaXgu-0007MA-Sj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:21:13 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38554 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KaXgu-0007Lu-Fw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:21:12 -0400 +Received: from web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.76]:46943) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KaXgt-00084R-FG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:21:12 -0400 +Received: (qmail 40478 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2008 15:21:08 -0000 +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; + h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; + b=AYx3HT74dje8OqgOpQ1nz664lYDge4HOG9K1qhNyJ9bGYo+CcfKkWBQFUTRFEwxC0wNHinCUWTOVriA5yVybzjgTvHkPYlWPLQTUwhGv1EqTMFZ+E2CzTOR1/4bu1SGPOVw2H7RxQwhRM2Kwk+YgjS1DUHvytHvpkFo45aWeFSo=; +X-YMail-OSG: PYlBgyIVM1lNRVSnxNK4SQ75st0U0IQw6Op2Z2gxcNvPKQMd_OwNMWqeYaJAGa37M3RojnH5.md_BN9niFUb4zw8InMctPNsue4G5DkVgXeOCcfm5xSjD2xGzPTdEDKfdhDBAh0IJxJ4yl6mmxgifECE +Received: from [201.14.100.26] by web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; + Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:21:06 PDT +X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 +Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:21:06 -0700 (PDT) +From: Cesar Inacio Martins +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-ID: <214031.39923.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:25:07 -0400 +Subject: Solaris 10 - login shell error +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1279010893==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 15771 +Lines: 231 + +--===============1279010893== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1630891515-1220368866=:39923" + +--0-1630891515-1220368866=:39923 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hi all, =0A=0AI'm new with screen utils. I love it! =0AA few days I'm using= + it over Linux machine without problems. =0ANow I trying install over a Sun= + Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a little problem.=0A=0AHere is the information = +about the version:=0A=0A# screen --version=0AScreen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5= +-Dec-03=0A=0A# cat /etc/release=0A Solaris 10 8/07 s1= +0s_u4wos_12b SPARC=0A Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All = +Rights Reserved.=0A Use is subject to license terms.= +=0A Assembled 16 August 2007=0A=0A# pkginfo -l S= +FWscrn=0A PKGINST: SFWscrn=0A NAME: screen - A full-screen window = +manager=0A CATEGORY: system=0A ARCH: sparc=0A VERSION: 4.0.2,REV= +=3D2006.10.04.21.15=0A BASEDIR: /opt=0A VENDOR: http://www.gnu.org/s= +oftware/screen/=0A DESC: screen - A full-screen window manager=0A = +PSTAMP: freeware20061004212406=0A INSTDATE: ago 29 2008 14:37=0A HOTLI= +NE: Please contact the owners of this software=0A STATUS: completely i= +nstalled=0A FILES: 37 installed pathnames=0A 7 = +shared pathnames=0A 10 directories=0A 1 = +executables=0A 1915 blocks used (approx)=0A=0AWell , my prob= +lem is with "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".=0AI put the shell to work= + with login shell "-" .=0Ashell - =0A=0AIn this sample, I using the user "c= +martins":=0A> grep cmartins /etc/passwd=0Acmartins:x:198:106::/home/cmartin= +s:/bin/bash=0A=0AOn my $HOME/.profile I add a command and this works fine w= +hen I login on the system. But when screen are started , a weird syntax err= +or occur. =0AThis is my profile:=0A> cat .profile=0A #=0A # Copyright= + (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.=0A # All rights reserved.=0A #=0A= + # ident "@(#)local.profile 1.10 01/06/23 SMI"=0A stty istrip= +=0A PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.=0A export PATH=0A vSO=3D$(unam= +e)=0A=0AI just add the "vSO" variable.=0AWhen screen are started this messa= +ge appear:=0A :screen (-): -=0A -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected= +=0A=0AIf I remove the ".screenrc" file and start screen with "-s -" paramet= +er, the same error occur.=0A=0ABTW: I have the same commands of the profile= + and .screenrc running on a linux =0Amachine without problems.=0A=0A=0A=0A = + Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email no= +vo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo= +.com/addresses +--0-1630891515-1220368866=:39923 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
Hi all,

I'm new with screen utils. I love it!
A few days = +I'm using it over Linux machine without problems.
Now I trying install = +over a Sun Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a little problem.

Here is the = +information about the version:

# screen --version
Screen v= +ersion 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03

# cat /etc/release
            &n= +bsp;          Solaris 10 8/07 = +s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC
       &n= +bsp;   Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All Rights Res= +erved.
         &nbs= +p;            &= +nbsp; Use is subject to license terms.
     = +;            &n= +bsp;          Assembled 16 Aug= +ust 2007

# pkginfo -l SFWscrn
   PKGINST:&nb= +sp; SFWscrn
      NAME:  screen - A + full-screen window manager
  CATEGORY:  system<= +br style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">= +      ARCH:  sparc
   = +VERSION:  4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15
   BASEDIR:= +  /opt
    VENDOR: = + http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
    &nbs= +p; DESC:  screen - A full-screen window manager
  = +  PSTAMP:  freeware20061004212406
  INSTDATE: = +; ago 29 2008 14:37
   HOTLINE:  Please contact th= +e owners + of this software
    STATUS:  completely ins= +talled
     FILES:    &nb= +sp;  37 installed pathnames
     &n= +bsp;            = +; 7 shared pathnames
     &n= +bsp;            10 d= +irectories
         = +          1 executables= +
            = +;    1915 blocks used (approx)

Well , my problem = +is with + "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".
I put the shell to work wi= +th login shell "-" .
shell -

In this sample, I using = +the user "cmartins":
> grep cmartins /etc/passwd
cm= +artins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash

On my $HOME/.profile = +I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. But when sc= +reen are started , a weird syntax error occur.
This is my profil= +e:
> cat .profile
    #
&= +nbsp;   # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
= +    # All rights reserved.
    #
    # ident "@(#)local.profile   &nbs= +p;  1.10    01/06/23 SMI"
    stty istri= +p
    PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.
&n= +bsp;   export PATH
    vSO=3D$(uname)

I just + add the "vSO" variable.
When screen are started this message app= +ear:
    :screen (-): -
  &nbs= +p; -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected

If I remove the ".scree= +nrc" file and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the same error occur.

BTW: I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on = +a linux
machine without problems.

=0A=0A=0A Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. 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I love it! =0AA few days I'm us= +ing it over Linux machine without problems. =0ANow I trying install over a = +Sun Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a little problem.=0A=0AHere is the informati= +on about the version:=0A=0A# screen --version=0AScreen version 4.00.02 (FAU= +) 5-Dec-03=0A=0A# cat /etc/release=0A Solaris 10 8/07= + s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC=0A Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. A= +ll Rights Reserved.=0A Use is subject to license ter= +ms.=0A Assembled 16 August 2007=0A=0A# pkginfo -= +l SFWscrn=0A PKGINST: SFWscrn=0A NAME: screen - A full-screen wind= +ow manager=0A CATEGORY: system=0A ARCH: sparc=0A VERSION: 4.0.2,= +REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15=0A BASEDIR: /opt=0A VENDOR: http://www.gnu.or= +g/software/screen/=0A DESC: screen - A full-screen window manager=0A = + PSTAMP: freeware20061004212406=0A INSTDATE: ago 29 2008 14:37=0A HO= +TLINE: Please contact the owners of this software=0A STATUS: completel= +y installed=0A FILES: 37 installed pathnames=0A = + 7 shared pathnames=0A 10 directories=0A = + 1 executables=0A 1915 blocks used (approx)=0A=0AWell , my p= +roblem is with "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".=0AI put the shell to w= +ork with login shell "-" .=0Ashell - =0A=0AIn this sample, I using the user= + "cmartins":=0A> grep cmartins /etc/passwd=0Acmartins:x:198:106::/home/cmar= +tins:/bin/bash=0A=0AOn my $HOME/.profile I add a command and this works fin= +e when I login on the system. But when screen are started , a weird syntax = +error occur. =0AThis is my profile:=0A> cat .profile=0A #=0A # Copyri= +ght (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.=0A # All rights reserved.=0A #= +=0A # ident "@(#)local.profile 1.10 01/06/23 SMI"=0A stty ist= +rip=0A PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.=0A export PATH=0A vSO=3D$(u= +name)=0A=0AI just add the "vSO" variable.=0AWhen screen are started this me= +ssage appear:=0A :screen (-): -=0A -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpec= +ted=0A=0AIf I remove the ".screenrc" file and start screen with "-s -" para= +meter, the same error occur.=0A=0ABTW: I have the same commands of the prof= +ile and .screenrc running on a linux =0Amachine without problems.=0A=0A=0A = + Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email no= +vo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo= +.com/addresses +--0-960347715-1220369452=:86052 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
Hi all,
<= +br>I'm new with screen utils. I love it!
A few days I'm using it over L= +inux machine without problems.
Now I trying install over a Sun Solaris = +10 (SPARC) and got a little problem.

Here is the information about t= +he version:

# screen --version
Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-D= +ec-03

# cat /etc/release
     = +;            &n= +bsp;     Solaris 10 8/07 s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC           Copyright 200= +7 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
   &nb= +sp;            = +        Use is subject to license terms.= +
          &nbs= +p;            &= +nbsp;    Assembled 16 August 2007

# pkginfo -l SF= +Wscrn
   PKGINST:  S= +FWscrn
      NAME:  screen - A=0A f= +ull-screen window manager
  CATEGORY:  system      ARCH:  sparc
   VE= +RSION:  4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15
   BASEDIR:&n= +bsp; /opt
    VENDOR: = + http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
    &nbs= +p; DESC:  screen - A full-screen window manager
  = +  PSTAMP:  freeware20061004212406
  INSTDATE: = +; ago 29 2008 14:37
   HOTLINE:  Please contact th= +e owners=0A of this software
    STATUS:  com= +pletely installed
     FILES:  &nbs= +p;    37 installed pathnames
   &nb= +sp;            = +   7 shared pathnames
     &n= +bsp;            10 d= +irectories
         = +          1 executables= +
            = +;    1915 blocks used (approx)

Well , my problem = +is with=0A "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".
I put the shell = +to work with login shell "-" .
shell -

In this sample= +, I using the user "cmartins":
> grep cmartins /etc/passwd
cm= +artins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash

On my $HOME/.profile = +I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. But when sc= +reen are started , a weird syntax error occur.
This is my profil= +e:
> cat .profile
    #
&= +nbsp;   # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
= +    # All rights reserved.
    #
    # ident "@(#)local.profile   &nbs= +p;  1.10    01/06/23 SMI"
    stty istri= +p
    PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.
&n= +bsp;   export PATH
    vSO=3D$(uname)

I just=0A add the "vSO" variable.
When screen are starte= +d this message appear:
    :screen (-): -<= +span style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;= +">    -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected

If I= + remove the ".screenrc" file and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the sa= +me error occur.

BTW: I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on = +a linux
machine without problems.


=0A=0A=0A
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I love it! =0AA few days I'm using it over Linux machine withou= +t problems. =0ANow I trying install over a Sun Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a= + little problem.=0A=0AHere is the information about the version:=0A=0A# scr= +een --version=0AScreen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03=0A=0A# cat /etc/relea= +se=0A Solaris 10 8/07 s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC=0A = + Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.=0A = + Use is subject to license terms.=0A = + Assembled 16 August 2007=0A=0A# pkginfo -l SFWscrn=0A PKGINST: SFWscrn= +=0A NAME: screen - A full-screen window manager=0A CATEGORY: system= +=0A ARCH: sparc=0A VERSION: 4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15=0A BASE= +DIR: /opt=0A VENDOR: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/=0A DESC:= + screen - A full-screen window manager=0A PSTAMP: freeware200610042124= +06=0A INSTDATE: ago 29 2008 14:37=0A HOTLINE: Please contact the owner= +s of this software=0A STATUS: completely installed=0A FILES: = +37 installed pathnames=0A 7 shared pathnames=0A = + 10 directories=0A 1 executables=0A = + 1915 blocks used (approx)=0A=0AWell , my problem is with "shell" parameter= + on the ".screenrc".=0AI put the shell to work with login shell "-" .=0Ashe= +ll - =0A=0AIn this sample, I using the user "cmartins":=0A> grep cmartins /= +etc/passwd=0Acmartins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash=0A=0AOn my $HOME/= +.profile I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. Bu= +t when screen are started , a weird syntax error occur. =0AThis is my profi= +le:=0A> cat .profile=0A #=0A # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems= +, Inc.=0A # All rights reserved.=0A #=0A # ident "@(#)local.profil= +e 1.10 01/06/23 SMI"=0A stty istrip=0A PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/u= +cb:/etc:.=0A export PATH=0A vSO=3D$(uname)=0A=0AI just add the "vSO" = +variable.=0AWhen screen are started this message appear:=0A :screen (-):= + -=0A -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected=0A=0AIf I remove the ".scree= +nrc" file and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the same error occur.=0A= +=0ABTW: I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on a = +linux =0Amachine without problems.=0A=0A=0A________________________________= +=0ANovos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo= + com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0A=0A=0A=0A Novos ender= +e=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua car= +a @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses +--0-1185300945-1220373295=:52654 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +

C= +omplementing the previous message.
After some tests, I believed this is= + a Bug.
When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , = +and not the shell on the /etc/passwd.

After remove the ".screenrc" I= + execute:

    SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s -
&nb= +sp;   SunOS \u:\w> ps
       PID T= +TY         TIME CMD
  = +    6859 pts/5       0:00 + ps
      6852 pts/5     &n= +bsp; 0:00 sh
    SunOS \u:\w> echo $$
  &= +nbsp; 6852

 


-= +---- Mensagem original ----
De: "cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br" &= +lt;cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br>
Para: screen-users@gnu.orgEnviadas: Ter=C3=A7a-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2008 12:30:52
Assunto: So= +laris 10 - login shell error

<= +div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = +12pt;">Hi all,

I'm new = +with screen utils. I love it!
A few days I'm using it over Linux machin= +e without problems.=0A
Now I trying install over a Sun Solaris 10 (SPAR= +C) and got a little problem.

Here is the information about the versi= +on:

# screen --version
Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-= +03

# cat /etc/release
     &n= +bsp;            = +;     Solaris 10 8/07 s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC
     = +;      Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. = + All Rights Reserved.
       &= +nbsp;           &nbs= +p;    Use is subject to license terms.
  = +;            &n= +bsp;            = +; Assembled 16 August 2007

# pkginfo -l SFWscrn<= +br style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">= +   PKGINST:  SFWscrn
    &n= +bsp; NAME:  screen - A=0A full-screen window manager
 = +; CATEGORY:  system
      ARCH:&nbs= +p; sparc
   VERSION:  4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15= +
   BASEDIR:  /opt
    VENDOR: = + http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
    &nbs= +p; DESC:  screen - A full-screen window manager
  = +  PSTAMP:  freeware20061004212406
  INSTDATE: = +; ago 29 2008 14:37
   HOTLINE:  Please contact th= +e owners=0A of this software
    STATUS:  com= +pletely installed
     FILES:  &nbs= +p;    37 installed pathnames
   &nb= +sp;            = +   7 shared pathnames
     &n= +bsp;            10 d= +irectories
         = +          1 executables= +
            = +;    1915 blocks used (approx)

Well , my problem = +is with=0A "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".
I put the shell = +to work with login shell "-" .
shell -

In this sample= +, I using the user "cmartins":
> grep cmartins /etc/passwd
cm= +artins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash

On my $HOME/.profile = +I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. But when sc= +reen are started , a weird syntax error occur.
This is my profil= +e:
> cat .profile
    #
&= +nbsp;   # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
= +    # All rights reserved.
    #
    # ident "@(#)local.profile   &nbs= +p;  1.10    01/06/23 SMI"
    stty istri= +p
    PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.
&n= +bsp;   export PATH
    vSO=3D$(uname)

I just=0A add the "vSO" variable.
When screen are starte= +d this message appear:
    :screen (-): -<= +span style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;= +">    -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected

If I= + remove the ".screenrc" file and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the sa= +me error occur.

BTW: I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on = +a linux
machine without problems.


=0A=0A=0A
Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc= +=C3=AA conhece. Crie = +um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.
= +


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I love it! =0AA few days I'm using it over Linux machine without problem= +s. =0ANow I trying install over a Sun Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a little p= +roblem.=0A=0AHere is the information about the version:=0A=0A# screen --ver= +sion=0AScreen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03=0A=0A# cat /etc/release=0A = + Solaris 10 8/07 s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC=0A Copyri= +ght 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.=0A = + Use is subject to license terms.=0A Assembl= +ed 16 August 2007=0A=0A# pkginfo -l SFWscrn=0A PKGINST: SFWscrn=0A = +NAME: screen - A full-screen window manager=0A CATEGORY: system=0A = +ARCH: sparc=0A VERSION: 4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15=0A BASEDIR: /op= +t=0A VENDOR: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/=0A DESC: screen = +- A full-screen window manager=0A PSTAMP: freeware20061004212406=0A IN= +STDATE: ago 29 2008 14:37=0A HOTLINE: Please contact the owners of this= + software=0A STATUS: completely installed=0A FILES: 37 instal= +led pathnames=0A 7 shared pathnames=0A 1= +0 directories=0A 1 executables=0A 1915 blo= +cks used (approx)=0A=0AWell , my problem is with "shell" parameter on the "= +.screenrc".=0AI put the shell to work with login shell "-" .=0Ashell - =0A= +=0AIn this sample, I using the user "cmartins":=0A> grep cmartins /etc/pass= +wd=0Acmartins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash=0A=0AOn my $HOME/.profile= + I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. But when s= +creen are started , a weird syntax error occur. =0AThis is my profile:=0A> = +cat .profile=0A #=0A # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.= +=0A # All rights reserved.=0A #=0A # ident "@(#)local.profile = + 1.10 01/06/23 SMI"=0A stty istrip=0A PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/et= +c:.=0A export PATH=0A vSO=3D$(uname)=0A=0AI just add the "vSO" variab= +le.=0AWhen screen are started this message appear:=0A :screen (-): -=0A = + -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected=0A=0AIf I remove the ".screenrc" f= +ile and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the same error occur.=0A=0ABTW:= + I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on a linux = +=0Amachine without problems.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ANov= +os endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo com a= + sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0A=0A=0A Novos endere=C3=A7os= +, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.= +com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses +--0-96972169-1220373259=:86110 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
Complementing the previous message.
After some = +tests, I believed this is a Bug.
When executed with option "-s -" the "= +sh" shell are executed , and not the shell on the /etc/passwd.

After= + remove the ".screenrc" I execute:

    SunOS cmartins= +:~> screen -s -
    SunOS \u:\w> ps
  = +     PID TTY        = + TIME CMD
      6859 pts/5    &n= +bsp;  0:00 ps
      6852 pts/5   = +;    0:00 sh
    SunOS \u:\w> echo $$    6852

 


----- Mensagem original ----
De: "cesarmartins_2004-= +linux@yahoo.com.br" <cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br>
Para: s= +creen-users@gnu.org
Enviadas: Ter=C3=A7a-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2008 12= +:30:52
Assunto: Solaris 10 - login shell error

Hi all,

I'm new with screen = +utils. I love it!
A few days I'm using it over Linux machine without pr= +oblems. +
Now I trying install over a Sun Solaris 10 (SPARC) and got a little pr= +oblem.

Here is the information about the version:

# screen --= +version
Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03

# cat /e= +tc/release
         = +            &nb= +sp; Solaris 10 8/07 s10s_u4wos_12b SPARC
     = +;      Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. = + All Rights Reserved.
       &= +nbsp;           &nbs= +p;    Use is subject to license terms.
  = +;            &n= +bsp;            = +; Assembled 16 August 2007

# pkginfo -l SFWscrn<= +br style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;">= +   PKGINST:  SFWscrn
    &n= +bsp; NAME:  screen - A=0A full-screen window manager
 = +; CATEGORY:  system
      ARCH:&nbs= +p; sparc
   VERSION:  4.0.2,REV=3D2006.10.04.21.15= +
   BASEDIR:  /opt
    VENDOR: = + http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
    &nbs= +p; DESC:  screen - A full-screen window manager
  = +  PSTAMP:  freeware20061004212406
  INSTDATE: = +; ago 29 2008 14:37
   HOTLINE:  Please contact th= +e owners=0A of this software
    STATUS:  com= +pletely installed
     FILES:  &nbs= +p;    37 installed pathnames
   &nb= +sp;            = +   7 shared pathnames
     &n= +bsp;            10 d= +irectories
         = +          1 executables= +
            = +;    1915 blocks used (approx)

Well , my problem = +is with=0A "shell" parameter on the ".screenrc".
I put the shell = +to work with login shell "-" .
shell -

In this sample= +, I using the user "cmartins":
> grep cmartins /etc/passwd
cm= +artins:x:198:106::/home/cmartins:/bin/bash

On my $HOME/.profile = +I add a command and this works fine when I login on the system. But when sc= +reen are started , a weird syntax error occur.
This is my profil= +e:
> cat .profile
    #
&= +nbsp;   # Copyright (c) 2001 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
= +    # All rights reserved.
    #
    # ident "@(#)local.profile   &nbs= +p;  1.10    01/06/23 SMI"
    stty istri= +p
    PATH=3D/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:.
&n= +bsp;   export PATH
    vSO=3D$(uname)

I just=0A add the "vSO" variable.
When screen are starte= +d this message appear:
    :screen (-): -<= +span style=3D"font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;= +">    -: syntax error: `vSO=3D$' unexpected

If I= + remove the ".screenrc" file and start screen with "-s -" parameter, the sa= +me error occur.

BTW: I have the same commands of the profile and .screenrc running on = +a linux
machine without problems.


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It's not screen that +honors COLUMNS and LINES, it's the shell itself. So you need to make +sure the snippet of code that determines LINES and COLUMNS is in your +shell's rc file on the remote host as well. I tested it to make sure +and doing it this way works fine for me. I didn't test bash, just +tcsh (including a very very old tcsh version 6.11.0 on one of my +boxes) and the annoyance vanishes. + +- -- +Andy Harrison +public key: 0x67518262 + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: http://getfiregpg.org + +iD8DBQFIv+b5NTm8fWdRgmIRAuwSAKCobDjk8ShqsifVSwd2aSd87AvA5gCfZkFA +zMIeJn4J5P/L7h8y7eT2bPg= +=L1b+ +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 10:00:05 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D737E0A85 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:00:04 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43385 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbFNN-0006Z3-HZ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:59:57 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbFMV-0005sp-G9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:59:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbFMT-0005qI-DD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:59:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35241 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbFMT-0005q0-3L + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:59:01 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.249]:25743) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KbFMS-0000WJ-TO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:59:01 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so3395170rvb.6 + for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:58:59 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=vCtaCVj2SaWRzDAbtbwab7g5amE3qoOhLfZX+7uvbmg=; + b=JH9WDDsfnJ4z158T9mr+WdiXrz9TCTJ01SRV+H1AstmMiTo18EBss8zXTETIg5KYtj + Xt0bo8vX7AMn9mJav8YJ+O6zPaDkgECSapCU0A2wROLCXeDYbaeDo2wLdkHcMeRNYxdM + 4MxMfsJ4zozjUyhm9SelLlEMaMp6t5V87H8VE= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=x2O3QTDIExf7pUOLm11AwsvCGTCDqfw6NYRJD0Bl+DBQkozR5+P4F7VIUs8lSmcKwS + GEG/ufgQ7ZX6OWHUQMlQNf4FSlvABnSf1jZyHnf5WtRw33uazHYK9exsxAhW4OwiJeOu + mUAMyVJWPgaWIHK+bS/IU7yMzSWU5sz2MTWlM= +Received: by 10.141.97.5 with SMTP id z5mr5694541rvl.197.1220536739770; + Thu, 04 Sep 2008 06:58:59 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.141.153.19 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 06:58:59 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:58:59 -0400 +From: "Andy Harrison" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: <449979.52654.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <449979.52654.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Solaris 10 - login shell error +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1181 +Lines: 54 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + + + +On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: +> +> Complementing the previous message. +> After some tests, I believed this is a Bug. +> When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , and not the +> shell on the /etc/passwd. +> +> After remove the ".screenrc" I execute: +> +> SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s - +> SunOS \u:\w> ps +> PID TTY TIME CMD +> 6859 pts/5 0:00 ps +> 6852 pts/5 0:00 sh +> SunOS \u:\w> echo $$ +> 6852 +> + + + +I don't believe it's a bug. If you consult the manpage, it says: + + * If the command begins with a '-' character, the shell will + * be started as a login-shell. + + +So you've got the preceding '-' character, but no command +following it. + + +- -- +Andy Harrison +public key: 0x67518262 + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: http://getfiregpg.org + +iD8DBQFIv+mkNTm8fWdRgmIRAujpAKCYFEouR1Ycvauyn7hqQAvi267A6QCdHN9+ +/7Tm2UGoqydWqacjH5U1l1U= +=yLI6 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 11:29:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DC47DAF30 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:29:41 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45382 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGm4-0003KM-FQ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:29:32 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGOM-0008KT-BZ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:05:02 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGOK-0008J5-2s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:05:01 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40874 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbGOJ-0008Io-BL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:04:59 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173]:13016) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KbGOI-0002iw-Kl + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:04:58 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4318442wfc.24 + for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:04:56 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=obWl58/IWaEeDT3juHiN+AvNe+7yVpKb/AUiwYqWKxU=; + b=mkqODbl/fdLx+zwKYAcZGpZ2KGfqXtm4mAMwM+eRNuAGzqXe3wIk7tBsO8XQpojD/a + zCj3no5gTSgkrydfSOXGz8Xtp8DaJ+pYZfZ8N3gLJGg54+xZSVc4ag4etrF/QK/HGylv + cXdviMlTVgg+T9UyniAWCmBWOt8vWOs6p92ko= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=xvE5+9bekP/3LH0pCFDDwDc9kZ1OBkXv9cmcP11j2E3DsTZgM+nTdRwuVkgcwvarOS + BEIYv2/ZZZnUmeeOQtq5MxEtHiFegUQf0rXchSOYQ9cpaV1BU+fDtUEgP88UMUdKimXL + WOZ5rQJQcecKtL1OKFNtr26opraAeFTG8TaBU= +Received: by 10.143.42.3 with SMTP id u3mr3589384wfj.148.1220540696502; + Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:04:56 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.13.4 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:04:56 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:04:56 -0400 +From: "Tom Scogland" +To: "Andy Harrison" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <449979.52654.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> + +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Solaris 10 - login shell error +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1415454221==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4926 +Lines: 160 + +--===============1415454221== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_29376_22970393.1220540696497" + +------=_Part_29376_22970393.1220540696497 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Perhaps 'shell -$SHELL' would be more what you're after? +On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andy Harrison wrote: + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> +> +> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: +> > +> > Complementing the previous message. +> > After some tests, I believed this is a Bug. +> > When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , and not +> the +> > shell on the /etc/passwd. +> > +> > After remove the ".screenrc" I execute: +> > +> > SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s - +> > SunOS \u:\w> ps +> > PID TTY TIME CMD +> > 6859 pts/5 0:00 ps +> > 6852 pts/5 0:00 sh +> > SunOS \u:\w> echo $$ +> > 6852 +> > +> +> +> +> I don't believe it's a bug. If you consult the manpage, it says: +> +> * If the command begins with a '-' character, the shell will +> * be started as a login-shell. +> +> +> So you've got the preceding '-' character, but no command +> following it. +> +> +> - -- +> Andy Harrison +> public key: 0x67518262 +> +> +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: http://getfiregpg.org +> +> iD8DBQFIv+mkNTm8fWdRgmIRAujpAKCYFEouR1Ycvauyn7hqQAvi267A6QCdHN9+ +> /7Tm2UGoqydWqacjH5U1l1U= +> =yLI6 +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_29376_22970393.1220540696497 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Perhaps 'shell -$SHELL' would be more what you're after?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andy Harrison <aharrison@gmail.com> wrote:
+
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+
+
+On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM,   wrote:
+>
+> Complementing the previous message.
+> After some tests, I believed this is a Bug.
+> When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , and not the
+> shell on the /etc/passwd.
+>
+> After remove the ".screenrc" I execute:
+>
+>     SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s -
+>     SunOS \u:\w> ps
+>        PID TTY         TIME CMD
+>       6859 pts/5       0:00 ps
+>       6852 pts/5       0:00 sh
+>     SunOS \u:\w> echo $$
+>     6852
+>
+
+
+
+
I don't believe it's a bug. If you consult the manpage, it says:
+
+   * If the command begins with a '-' character, the shell will
+   * be started as a login-shell.
+
+
+So you've got the preceding '-' character, but no command
+following it.
+
+
+- --
+Andy Harrison
+public key: 0x67518262
+
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+ +------=_Part_29376_22970393.1220540696497-- + + + +--===============1415454221== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1415454221==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 11:38:42 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12957DA293 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:38:42 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40503 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGuq-0001ja-L0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:38:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGuU-0001hy-RE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:38:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbGuT-0001fe-MG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:38:14 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37464 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbGuT-0001fW-GR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:38:13 -0400 +Received: from web31812.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.75]:27788) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KbGqM-0007X7-JA + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:33:59 -0400 +Received: (qmail 65313 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Sep 2008 15:33:53 -0000 +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; + h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; + b=e75NnYYjuUs8z/gdLzx3nPQkCYX0JtmKFXsfYWL74lYcOUaKXjjjFhKMsJafgMgCHpPB34lKJcwkkLd0rjUxNxd3gfCT9mGNWs3NZlv289O4LJUfYamxWTCJ9TII6QzgITgAP7vgQmCjmSKbjSN9QIWKqOVKy/7y0EE7INlCX28=; +X-YMail-OSG: EH1Vk8QVM1kF5dEGGaFn7Hh67ZsrTLmzA4JpibRLmZFzRWXjEdKdqW_Pogm3ZGpT3Utvyvx_3GVFAM86BPT.XaXZXbyr._vWoqdk_3IEmcM4y9ISkdi34ADT8VazF_w7eFjLQ02TcT6kjM9Db37IgSXY +Received: from [201.14.100.26] by web31812.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; + Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:33:53 PDT +X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 +Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT) +From: cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br +To: Tom Scogland +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Message-ID: <199262.64436.qm@web31812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Res: Solaris 10 - login shell error +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2056185727==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 6847 +Lines: 109 + +--===============2056185727== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1822990755-1220542433=:64436" + +--0-1822990755-1220542433=:64436 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hummm... thanks! this way works fine!!=0A=0AThanks again!=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A--= +--- Mensagem original ----=0ADe: Tom Scogland =0APara: An= +dy Harrison =0ACc: Screen Users = +=0AEnviadas: Quinta-feira, 4 de Setembro de 2008 12:04:56=0AAssunto: Re: So= +laris 10 - login shell error=0A=0A=0APerhaps 'shell -$SHELL' would be more = +what you're after?=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andy Harrison wrote:=0A=0A-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0AHash: = +SHA1=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote:=0A>=0A> Comple= +menting the previous message.=0A> After some tests, I believed this is a Bu= +g.=0A> When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , and n= +ot the=0A> shell on the /etc/passwd.=0A>=0A> After remove the ".screenrc" I= + execute:=0A>=0A> SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s -=0A> SunOS \u:\w> ps= +=0A> PID TTY TIME CMD=0A> 6859 pts/5 0:00 ps=0A>= + 6852 pts/5 0:00 sh=0A> SunOS \u:\w> echo $$=0A> 6852= +=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0AI don't believe it's a bug. If you consult the manpage, it = +says:=0A=0A * If the command begins with a '-' character, the shell will= +=0A * be started as a login-shell.=0A=0A=0ASo you've got the preceding '-'= + character, but no command=0Afollowing it.=0A=0A=0A- --=0AAndy Harrison=0Ap= +ublic key: 0x67518262=0A=0A=0A-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----=0AVersion: GnuP= +G v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)=0AComment: http://getfiregpg.org=0A=0AiD8DBQFIv+mkNTm8= +fWdRgmIRAujpAKCYFEouR1Ycvauyn7hqQAvi267A6QCdHN9+=0A/7Tm2UGoqydWqacjH5U1l1U= +=3D=0A=3DyLI6=0A-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----=0A=0A=0A_______________________= +________________________=0Ascreen-users mailing list=0Ascreen-users@gnu.org= +=0Ahttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0A-N= +=0AAKA:Tom Scogland=0AI am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagi= +nation. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.= + Imagination encircles the world.=0A-Albert Einstein=0A=0A=0A=0A Novos= + endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo com a s= +ua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addre= +sses +--0-1822990755-1220542433=:64436 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
Hummm... thanks! this way works fine!!

Thank= +s again!
 

----- Mensagem = +original ----
De: Tom Scogland <njustn@gmail.com>
Para: Andy Ha= +rrison <aharrison@gmail.com>
Cc: Screen Users <screen-users@gnu= +.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 4 de Setembro de 2008 12:04:56
Assun= +to: Re: Solaris 10 - login shell error

Perhaps 'she= +ll -$SHELL' would be more what you're after?

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andy Harrison <aharrison@gmail.com> wro= +te:
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=0AOn Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM,   wrote:
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=0A> Complementing the previous message.
=0A> After some test= +s, I believed this is a Bug.
=0A> When executed with option "-s -" th= +e "sh" shell are executed , and not the
=0A> shell on the /etc/passwd= +.
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=0A> After remove the ".screenrc" I execute:
=0A><= +br>=0A>     SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s -
=0A>  = +   SunOS \u:\w> ps
=0A>        PID TTY &n= +bsp;       TIME CMD
=0A>       6859 pts= +/5       0:00 ps
=0A>       6852 pts/5 = +      0:00 sh
=0A>     SunOS \u:\w> echo = +$$
=0A>     6852
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=0AI don't believe it's a bug. If you consult the manpage, it says:
=0A=0A   * If the command begins with a '-' character, the shell will=0A   * be started as a login-shell.
=0A
=0A
=0ASo you've g= +ot the preceding '-' character, but no command
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Crie um email novo com a = +sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com. +--0-1822990755-1220542433=:64436-- + + + +--===============2056185727== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============2056185727==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 12:32:18 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E0D7D9464 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:18 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55074 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHkh-0002gk-SS + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:32:11 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHkJ-0002eh-Mq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:31:47 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHkH-0002dr-LT + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:31:46 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37473 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbHkH-0002dk-Cd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:31:45 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50767) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KbHkH-0002Rv-7V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:31:45 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-247-109-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.109.113]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4761F3C8C066; + Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:31:42 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48C00D6D.7050300@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:31:41 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br +References: <449979.52654.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +In-Reply-To: <449979.52654.qm@web31806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Res: Solaris 10 - login shell error +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1459 +Lines: 47 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +cesarmartins_2004-linux@yahoo.com.br wrote: +> +> Complementing the previous message. + +If you write a followup to a previous message, please do so by using the +"Reply" button of your mailer; this keeps the messages together in one +thread. + +Also, are you aware that both of your messages were sent twice? + +> After some tests, I believed this is a Bug. +> When executed with option "-s -" the "sh" shell are executed , and not +> the shell on the /etc/passwd. +> +> After remove the ".screenrc" I execute: +> +> SunOS cmartins:~> screen -s - + +"-" is not the name of the shell, which is what -s (and the "shell" +screenrc command) expects. I'm somewhat surprised it works at all, but +I'm guessing screen just falls back to /bin/sh when the supplied shell +isn't valid (personally, I'd prefer a failure with a message). + +If you want a login version of, say, ksh, then supply "ksh -". + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFIwA1t7M8hyUobTrERAphYAJ4j7sjj2uWwgcMpGfPOyqJDb56TXwCdHzVn +K5knx8H/2wUj8Nqoql2lGP4= +=h3xp +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 4 12:33:35 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF17DD716 + for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54477 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHlx-0003HK-W0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:33:29 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHla-0003Fm-Sj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:33:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbHlZ-0003Es-4L + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:33:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37525 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbHlY-0003Em-TK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:33:04 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50859) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KbHlY-0002i8-KI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:33:04 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.5] (adsl-76-247-109-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.109.113]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94633C8C218; + Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:33:02 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48C00DBD.9010100@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:33:01 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Rich Healey +References: <48BF5DA6.4050607@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <48BF5DA6.4050607@gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Trunk Builds +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 819 +Lines: 29 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Rich Healey wrote: +> Head just built and ran perfectly on OSX.. 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("screen -c +-" or "screen -c /dev/stdin" or something?) then i could say "cat +.screenrc .screenrc.`hostname` | screen -c -". or maybe there's some +other way to just do the actual variant part (create various +screens)--execute a shell script or something, and let that handle the +branching. thoughts? +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Sep 5 01:38:46 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE + autolearn=ham version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F27677114D + for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:38:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34382 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbU1o-00089o-GP + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:38:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbU16-00086T-DI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KbU14-00084v-Un + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45815 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbU14-00084S-Ga + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:54 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.175]:23137) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KbU14-0007JD-1Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:37:54 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so297755wfc.24 + for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:37:53 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=JUg4NoqwugqGHcaiuLd5YSQ9HfxDudXmvwFEdqR4at4=; + b=EGh5QNW69oiZ1v7ma66dHhMbfVYIQvjGrtGX+qyffX063pT17ivwMcOIzTJB/xeJPx + Xb7Cz6XIHJ65Sv/NWkWo0HK4AlUNAwVeIjYN0UvAcFIJV4TeXUUlCCjFpUQbteHbxh/u + 3YEswgvt7627065Go1n0h4GJJiAq8HCjqV7uI= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=lvfFxU4kvKiCkvybW5eRQ+GSvSTBClzq/esLiB4XnEHx9m/DOPJRAfBTo/0+p+FJOg + novLxK3X2HUdm0N6ubNNixADYmYCAD8JoiW8Qde1v1Z5DCA++oJHuZoN81suCKVz+UJ0 + PXgjXP7DPYHaUUoFYvVot2e3iCrRukg5LP5NA= +Received: by 10.142.200.20 with SMTP id x20mr3895653wff.108.1220593072918; + Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:37:52 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.142.13.4 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:37:52 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:37:52 -0400 +From: "Tom Scogland" +To: "Aaron Davies" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: branching in screenrc? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1367671292==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 4153 +Lines: 95 + +--===============1367671292== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_38774_11581452.1220593072905" + +------=_Part_38774_11581452.1220593072905 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Including is how I do this, in fact the following is from my screenrc. +source ${HOME}/.screenrc-${TERM} + +On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Aaron Davies wrote: + +> any support for any "if" branching in screenrc's? i two windows boxes +> using a common (network-based) homedir, and i want screen to start two +> completely different sets of ssh sessions depending on which box it's +> executed on. i suppose i can allias screen to "screen -c +> .screenrc.`hostname` or something, but a.) that's clumsy and b.) it +> doesn't easily handle any common settings between the two. hmm. can +> screenrc's include other files? can it be read from stdin? ("screen -c +> -" or "screen -c /dev/stdin" or something?) then i could say "cat +> .screenrc .screenrc.`hostname` | screen -c -". or maybe there's some +> other way to just do the actual variant part (create various +> screens)--execute a shell script or something, and let that handle the +> branching. thoughts? +> -- +> Aaron Davies +> aaron.davies@gmail.com +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_38774_11581452.1220593072905 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +
Including is how I do this, in fact the following is from my screenrc.

source ${HOME}/.screenrc-${TERM}

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Aaron Davies <aaron.davies@gmail.com> wrote:
+
any support for any "if" branching in screenrc's? i two windows boxes
+using a common (network-based) homedir, and i want screen to start two
+completely different sets of ssh sessions depending on which box it's
+executed on. i suppose i can allias screen to "screen -c
+.screenrc.`hostname` or something, but a.) that's clumsy and b.) it
+doesn't easily handle any common settings between the two. hmm. can
+screenrc's include other files? can it be read from stdin? ("screen -c
+-" or "screen -c /dev/stdin" or something?) then i could say "cat
+.screenrc .screenrc.`hostname` | screen -c -". or maybe there's some
+other way to just do the actual variant part (create various
+screens)--execute a shell script or something, and let that handle the
+branching. thoughts?
+--
+Aaron Davies
+aaron.davies@gmail.com
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+screen-users mailing list
+screen-users@gnu.org
+http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users
+



--
-N
AKA:Tom Scogland
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
+-Albert Einstein
+
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I could use ":screen -t vi 0 vi" from +inside the screen session, but this will be for end users and I don't +want them spawning new windows, they have to be locked down to two +only (eg vi, emacs). This also rules out using C-a c. + +I'll also attach a shell script is being run from the .profile, it +might give you an idea of where I've gone so far: + +~~~~ +#!/bin/bash +if screen -ls | grep -q "No Sockets" ; then #check we aren't already +running screen + screen -dm #start in detached mode, allows us to use -p below +fi + +case $1 in + vi) screen -D -RR -p 0;; + emacs) screen -D -RR -p 1;; + *) echo "usage: $0 [vi|emacs]" +esac +exit +~~~~ + +Thanks for any help of suggestions you'd be able to provide. I'm +stumped with this. + +- -Dave + + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkjBOT0ACgkQRTj13dyLvnr9+gCfSvC44cktA8jjRoPEc2gu+5fv +PLAAnipjABjgkUoeA9LTKgW6nsS6YXdK +=xIGz +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Sep 7 10:02:04 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761177D8D66 + for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:02:02 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58431 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KcKpw-0003lH-Ba + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:01:56 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kc54c-0008Tx-Ha + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:12:02 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kc54X-0008T1-5F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:12:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59116 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc54W-0008Sy-Vd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:11:57 -0400 +Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.170]:50656) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kc54W-0000bv-4O + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:11:57 -0400 +Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so981601wfc.24 + for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:11:50 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date + :x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; + bh=PlzAsYyXi+fKELgdKWVjV6nxV9G/0va5S1KIviRqu7s=; + b=Fp/xfGrw4zlWe6w2xHSBHMoOH4X7KkKc1MwsnGSQO0EFqTmHhKHzXUJ4GEJ2Xq77zc + wHLv8+2aiJXXcVtmZ/7kMBQi20nwTmLnkb5JlslkBH9ZXqI3cpHq/enZ5LqCNg+yaKUi + 4bj/3zurvcf69xxYKv7JlPvpy9ZbkzdLO7NGw= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :mime-version:subject:date:x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; + b=HX08qqX3/dZXC9HgvIMikUolpYGWqbI0y2SxdGdpS0K4hn4csWI7zaZFYVRlqYq0xo + 41HUJc9kKZlP8rV1eRuDKvlkYXuqnEFI+I9RH0iclQeoTkPYg3NLN/IUzSnTxUtCVnqM + /6Gfq/OWK6f1wvevgETF1EpHy6n81sflTyhZE= +Received: by 10.142.229.5 with SMTP id b5mr4612857wfh.50.1220735510369; + Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:11:50 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.65? ( [220.233.244.95]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm2802829wfd.1.2008.09.06.14.11.47 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:11:49 -0700 (PDT) +Message-Id: <7FB4F41C-A283-46E4-9B0B-94463A67B439@gmail.com> +From: David Marsh +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) +Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:11:39 +1000 +X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail d53 (v53, Leopard) +X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:00:51 -0400 +Subject: Recreate windows when reattaching to session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1767 +Lines: 64 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Hi all, + +Is there a way to recreate windows that were previously closed when +reattaching to a session? + +Example: I have vi in 0 and emacs in 1, created from .screenrc like +this: + +~~~~ +screen -t vi 0 vi +screen -t emacs 1 emacs +~~~~ + +If I quit vi (:wq) and window 0 closes, then I detach with a C-a d, is +there a way when I reattach using "screen -D -RR" to recreate the +missing vi window? + +Ideally the command would be this "screen -D -RR -t vi 0 vi" which +would put vi back in window 0 only if there wasn't already a window 0. +Unfortunately that command only reconnects to the detached session and +does not recreate window 0. I could use ":screen -t vi 0 vi" from +inside the screen session, but this will be for end users and I don't +want them spawning new windows, they have to be locked down to two +only (eg vi, emacs). This also rules out using C-a c. + +I'll also attach a shell script is being run from the .profile, it +might give you an idea of where I've gone so far: + +~~~~ +#!/bin/bash +if screen -ls | grep -q "No Sockets" ; then #check we aren't already +running screen + screen -dm #start in detached mode, allows us to use -p below +fi + +case $1 in + vi) screen -D -RR -p 0;; + emacs) screen -D -RR -p 1;; + *) echo "usage: $0 [vi|emacs]" +esac +exit +~~~~ + +Thanks for any help of suggestions you'd be able to provide. I'm +stumped with this. + +- - -Dave + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkjC8gsACgkQRTj13dyLvnq9cACdHHpTr9dE9PoSo2t9BW81zNFI +okgAnjVkHDKEpjvMJllCxyg2pCRKwHxJ +=65G+ +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Sep 11 14:55:31 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2267E8C18 + for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:55:30 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57541 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KdrK5-0006xT-Av + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:55:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KdrJe-0006uH-RS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:54:54 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KdrJe-0006sa-0s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:54:54 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47214 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KdrJd-0006sL-O0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:54:53 -0400 +Received: from ss47.shared.server-system.net ([64.207.182.3]:45669) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KdrJd-0001DR-Ly + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:54:53 -0400 +Received: from gaia (adsl-70-132-12-207.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net + [70.132.12.207]) (authenticated bits=0) + by ss47.shared.server-system.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP + id m8BIsm5k013380 + for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:54:48 -0700 +Received: by gaia (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id 6DF2413FAD9; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:54:42 +0000 (UTC) +Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:54:42 -0700 +From: John Magolske +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080911185441.GA4824@mail.b79.net> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4 in cluster +Subject: directly acessing the Linux framebuffer console +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1651 +Lines: 55 + +I'm using Screen in a Linux framebuffer console. To view images I'm +using fbi, but it requires direct access to the framebuffer console, +and cannot run within a Screen psuedo tty. So I use openvt in a script +like so: + + #!/bin/sh + sudo openvt -sw -- fbi -e --autodown $1 + sudo deallocvt + +Or for viewing videos: + + #!/bin/sh + sudo openvt -sw -- mplayer -really-quiet -vo fbdev -fs $1 + sudo deallocvt + +openvt seems to require being run as root in order to switch to +a VT from within Screen, so I put this in /etc/sudoers : + + username ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/openvt + +This has the effect of running fbi or mplayer as root, which doesn't +seem optimal. Is there a way around running openvt as root? + +Alternatively, I can do this manually: + + C-A + :detach + % fbi imagefile.jpg && screen -d -r + +Is there a way to script this sequence? It's not as smooth as using +openvt in some ways (the detach/re-attach seems to cause some of the +contents in Screen's tty's to 'blink' when coming back to them), but +it could also be handy for something like using ctheme to change the +color theme of the VT Screen is running in. + +There's also fim [http://www.autistici.org/dezperado/FIM.html] an +image viewer that does work within Screen. So that's a way around +fbi's limitations. But for other uses (w3m w/images, mplayer, ctheme) +I'd like to better understand how to access the framebuffer console +from within screen. + +TIA for any suggestions, + +John + + +-- +John Magolske +http://B79.net/contact + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Sep 13 09:08:34 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21617F0423 + for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:08:34 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39404 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KeUrQ-0002zL-Aq + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:08:24 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kd7ae-0001bZ-PE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:05:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kd7ab-0001Yt-Hx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:05:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39506 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kd7ab-0001Yn-En + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:05:21 -0400 +Received: from web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.68.169]:23793) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kd7ab-0001YQ-Gx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:05:21 -0400 +Received: (qmail 80979 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Sep 2008 18:05:19 -0000 +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; + h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; + b=wIMLZWZeFi+VyzZF49egw7gQQ4AeWGG+jshGqg/2mlK8tOPCvhSnJXFnXyD4vl+ncdQ8DEU7pGPp9Rw0Haj2jrEh9vmmvJIzmz6W2jLVH/RTAjCshNVg4A+MpXu2lCa/+6RSg0JgBESmWU9YXy8RIY5k2bwfSaKq41GZJQivBHo=; +X-YMail-OSG: ruJb_E4VM1nN2JSfwQUg1iQxNIVlJGjFZs7LN3brMb6tDIati.gB6RoerdOF85ct6wdjLIvkvROyY8xOSFYVm0OntSJfj1D3EdT3lUhCfNKIsQbKIaJMZqAtbSUiJPXhRJU- +Received: from [129.219.110.112] by web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; + Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:05:19 PDT +X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 +Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:05:19 -0700 (PDT) +From: Ken Johnson +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Message-ID: <530750.80704.qm@web34805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> +X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:07:59 -0400 +Subject: Editing the paste buffer +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: othojunk@yahoo.com +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 282 +Lines: 12 + +Is there a way to edit the paste buffer inside of screen (without using buffer files) before pasting it to a window? 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I've only found some messages from 2003 that say this +would be nice to have => directed to wishlist. + +I was trying the following workaround: + +screenrc: +backtick 84 0 0 /home/jtaal/bin/screen_sockname +hardstatus string "%84` ..." + +and the following bashscript in screen_sockname +#!/bin/sh +echo $STY + +Executing the command inside a screen session works like a charm, but it +doesn't show anything in the hardstatus. + +If I echo another environment variable all goes well. + +Is the backtick command executed with the original enviroment instead of +the environment a shell inside screen would have? + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 09:34:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2F67E2282 + for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:34:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53420 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhP5C-0004dJ-CB + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:34:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KgLcb-0007Xj-51 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:40:45 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KgLcZ-0007WO-Ix + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:40:44 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42153 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KgLcZ-0007W9-DS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:40:43 -0400 +Received: from web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com ([206.190.58.165]:21515) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KgLcZ-0002Sk-2p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:40:43 -0400 +Received: (qmail 65839 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2008 15:40:42 -0000 +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; + h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; + b=mV9tkdF4nSlbBkkz6I2VHO349SNmzGnOjfVjrBOaqLawEszbEe+pugfnLH0QOCRzA99OQlAguqqTGCcPHuGbIIrHRjHoCghK1GnjoLHX3Jyv+bgDUpJ+HW1yyanc/pkdfStUq7Soqfrx3mqdMiu4v5+AT+GwvTDz7krqkD11VFU=; +X-YMail-OSG: pJp56ysVM1mRyod_ICZjufWA6Q_Ne2MTmATGhJGZAScbgLu40gJBeQMX5p4tr7ucugXr6XNqBK6wHEOoNHXtZWYBOy1r_AWSpGOO2qL9hGKXjh.s1ZUQJ0ARNloBzDUmlDw93YkJ7oAe_vyI7MVQdSbbt4.dLA-- +Received: from [216.10.193.24] by web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; + Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:40:42 PDT +X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 +Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:40:42 -0700 (PDT) +From: menxit@yahoo.com +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Message-ID: <552706.65820.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:33:32 -0400 +Subject: Vertical splits on Fedora 9 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: menxit@yahoo.com +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 626 +Lines: 18 + +Hi, + I=E2=80=99ve tried to compile the code from git with no luck. 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Yi (Bill) +Email: wyi@sikorsky.com / wyi@csc.com + + + +------_=_NextPart_001_01C91A80.A7240606 +Content-Type: text/html; + charset="us-ascii" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + + + + + + +Question on compiling screen on Solaris 10 + + + + +

Hi; +

+ +

When I compile screen I got this = +message, do you have any idea what it is? +

+ +

gcc -c -I. = +-I/opt/screen-4.0.3    -g -O2 misc.c + +
misc.c: In function `xsetenv': + +
misc.c:619: error: too few arguments = +to function `setenv' + +
*** Error code 1 + +
make: Fatal error: Command failed for = +target `misc.o' +

+ +

William P. = +Yi (Bill) + +
Email: = +wyi@sikorsky.com / wyi@csc.com +

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I was wondering if anybody knows of where I can find a binary or RPM that would support vertical splits on Fedora 9. + +Can you perhaps provide more details as to why it's not compiling? + +> also when I get vertical splits working how do I setup screen so it would automatically open up 3 by 3 regions already split . I hope to use screen to monitor persistence testing where each region is monitoring a different process or machine. + +Again you'll need the GIT version to this. It's possible to do so via +the use of layouts. Example: + +layout splitthree +screen -t One //group +split +focus +screen -t Two +split +focus +screen -t Three +layout save splitthree + +(That ought to work -- not tried it.) Putting that in your .screenrc +file should do what you ask of it. 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And note that in the GIT version of screen, there's now a "%S" +identifier to do what you want. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 14:51:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0588E7F5113 + for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39686 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhU1v-0007zu-1x + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:35 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhU1d-0007yT-Cv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:17 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhU1b-0007wd-L0 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:17 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56208 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhU1b-0007wX-AX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:15 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:56077) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KhU1b-0008UG-5b + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:51:15 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.4] (adsl-76-195-163-233.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.195.163.233]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC903E88026; + Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:51:13 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48D697B1.105@cowan.name> +Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:51:29 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Yi, William CSC" +References: +In-Reply-To: +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Question on compiling screen on Solaris 10 +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1106 +Lines: 38 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Yi, William CSC wrote: +> Hi; +> +> When I compile screen I got this message, do you have any idea what it is? +> +> gcc -c -I. -I/opt/screen-4.0.3 -g -O2 misc.c +> misc.c: In function `xsetenv': +> misc.c:619: error: too few arguments to function `setenv' +> *** Error code 1 +> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `misc.o' + +Yes; this has been fixed in the current sources, which you should be +able to compile. Follow the instructions at +https://savannah.gnu.org/git/?group=screen (you'll need to have Git +installed). + +- -- +Micah J. 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The default for the "screen" command +>> has always been to open the first available number (starting at 0); you +>> can always give it the window number you want, though. +> +> Let me give a example, if I have 3 open windows: +> |0:zsh|1:zsh|2:irssi| +> and call 'screen vim' on terminal 1:zsh I like the window open to the +> left side of 1, and now I have: +> |0:zsh|1:zsh|2:vim|3:irssi| +> +> If you read the feature request posted at +> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?15469 that originated the patch from +> Sadrul to implement relative args to number you see that this what the +> request is about. + +It doesn't look to me like that's what it was about. It looks to me like +Sadrul's fix is what it was about. It says things about moving existing +windows via the "number" command; there's nothing on that report +regarding where new "screen" windows are placed. + +I have to say that I'd be rather disinclined to add this feature. +However, when scripting support is available (or if you'd like to try +Sadrul's lua patch), such a thing should be implementable by the user. + +- -- +Micah J. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Italic text with screen inside urxvt and some termcap questions +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2181 +Lines: 56 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Kazuo Teramoto wrote: +> Hello, sometime ago (in 2006) someone asked if is possible to print +> italic text when using screen inside urxvt, but it received no +> replies... +> +> Someone know if it is possible? I tried some things with termcap (but +> to be sincere I don't fully understand the concept of +> termcaps/terminfo) like adding the following line to screenrc: +> +> termcapinfo rxvt* so=:se= ZH=\E[3m:ZR=\E[m +> +> My idea is that i needed to remove the definition of standout and put +> the italic in the place of \E[3m. But that don't works (well i think +> that is not supposed to work, but as I sad i dont fully understand +> what the termcap is all about)... In urxvt, outside of screen, the +> string '\33[3mHello\33[m' prints hello in italic. +> +> In the screen manual 'Standout' have a '(ANSI: Italicized)' what is +> that is supposed to mean? + +It means that what Screen uses for standout mode, ANSI (and rxvt) uses +for italics mode. I don't know why this is the case, but the fact that +it is means that making screen support italics would be a PITA. + +If we make screen use \033[3m for italics (instead of its current use +for standout), and \033[7m for standout (ANSI's "negative image"), then +all pre-existing termcap/terminfo definitions for screen will be wrong, +and users will have to be especially careful not to use newer versions +of screen with older termcap/terminfo definitions for screen. + +Nevertheless, it seems like it might not be a terrible idea to start +migration, or at least support a configuration option for it. I don't +know when such a change might be effected, though. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFI2AmQ7M8hyUobTrERAtIiAKCFfoYYtSKss4YFaImxxDV0bQqDdgCfZ95g +K/sIU1J3e8XZgcRuA3GdLd8= +=snpb +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 23 08:56:54 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096CD7E7408 + for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:56:54 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55240 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ki7Rc-0005CS-O3 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:56:44 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhRcQ-0006fX-5x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:17:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KhRcO-0006fH-Hh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:17:05 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53927 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhRcO-0006fA-FK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:17:04 -0400 +Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19]:52716 helo=sdf.lonestar.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KhRcN-0000sW-Q5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:17:04 -0400 +Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:chr@svalbard.freeshell.org + [192.94.73.10]) + by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m8LGGSdq009172 + for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:16:28 GMT +Received: (from chr@localhost) + by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.2/8.12.8/Submit) id m8LGGR9G013459 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:16:27 +0200 (CEST) +Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:16:27 +0200 +From: Christian Mongeau +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080921161627.GA24335@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> +References: <48D26E43.4090700@eljakim.nl> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <48D26E43.4090700@eljakim.nl> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 + (sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.19]); + Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:16:28 +0000 (UTC) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: NetBSD 1.6Z or 2.0 (DF) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:53:59 -0400 +Subject: Re: sockname in hardstatus +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 963 +Lines: 35 + +On 2008-09-18, Jaap Taal wrote: +> I'm looking on the net for a method to print the sockname/sessionname in +> the hardstatus.> I was trying the following workaround: +> [...] +> screenrc: +> backtick 84 0 0 /home/jtaal/bin/screen_sockname +> hardstatus string "%84` ..." +> +> and the following bashscript in screen_sockname +> #!/bin/sh +> echo $STY + +Changing your screen_sockname with: + +#!/bin/sh +screen -ls|sed '/(Attached)/!d;s/(Attached)//;s/ //' + +works (it deletes every line that doesn't have an "(Attached)", +then sustitutes that string with an empty one and removes the tab +(notice that the last pattern is a tab, i.e. s/TAB//, though it's +not really necessary)). I hope there's a better solution, but you +can adapt the previous one. + +Regards. + +chr + +-- +SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Sep 27 08:32:29 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C6D7ED310 + for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:32:29 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51837 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjYyD-0002eu-Rd + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:32:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kii9x-0001Rz-GN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:57 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kii9w-0001Rj-I9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:56 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53636 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kii9w-0001Rg-Ez + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:56 -0400 +Received: from dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com ([216.158.3.70]:40409) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1Kii9w-0008CL-Cf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:56 -0400 +Received: from [207.245.124.125] (port=40768 helo=worlock.plastic-idolatry.com) + by dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) + id 1Kii9r-0003wE-CD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:51 -0400 +Received: by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) + id 256127F284C; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:58 -0400 (EDT) +Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:08:58 -0400 +From: Erik Osheim +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080925040858.GA4106@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes +X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 207.245.124.125 +X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com); + SAEximRunCond expanded to false +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:31:50 -0400 +Subject: full command shown in aka mode +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 595 +Lines: 28 + +Would it be possible to include an option to display the full command +run (rather than just the first word of it)? In other words, instead of: + +0 vi +1 bash +2 watch +3 tail + +You might see: + +0 vi .bashrc +1 bash +2 watch df -h +3 tail -f /var/log/messages + +Awhile ago I had a patch that provided this behavior. Is there any +chance of such a patch being accepted into git? If so, are there +preferred names, etc. for this functionality? + +Thanks, + +-- Erik + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Sep 27 08:33:29 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41407ED310 + for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:33:28 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52263 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjYzB-0003eU-JK + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:33:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kj8xL-0005qS-R4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:45:43 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kj8xI-0005os-Ml + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:45:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49914 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kj8xI-0005oi-Ix + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:45:40 -0400 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.3.48]:36661) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kj8xI-000317-C3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:45:40 -0400 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de + [131.188.3.48]) by max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP id + BT-MMP-2494861 for screen-users@gnu.org; + Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:45:13 +0200 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.3.48]) + by max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [127.0.0.1]) + (amavisd-new) with ESMTP id 10567-01-7414 for ; + Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:45:13 +0200 (MEST) +Received: from biochem.uni-erlangen.de (bioc01.biochem.uni-erlangen.de + [131.188.174.10]) by mailhub.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP id + BT-MMP-806768 for screen-users@gnu.org; + Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:45:13 +0200 +Received: from BIOCHEM2/SpoolDir by biochem.uni-erlangen.de (Mercury 1.48); + 26 Sep 08 10:45:13 +0100 +Received: from SpoolDir by BIOCHEM2 (Mercury 1.48); 26 Sep 08 10:45:00 +0100 +Received: from biochem.uni-erlangen.de (131.188.174.197) by + biochem.uni-erlangen.de (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; + 26 Sep 08 10:44:55 +0100 +Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:47:30 +0200 +From: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (RRZE) on max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:31:50 -0400 +Subject: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1104 +Lines: 31 + + +Hi, + +I've been using screen for many years now, and find it indispensable. Still, +I know quite some people, who never managed to get a hold of it. The initial +learning curve is too steep for them, I guess... + +Some years ago, I tried several Linux-Distros (Debian, SuSe, Fedora) and found +the initial .screenrc-configuration-file quite, umm, minimalistic. +(I don't know if that is still the case? Can anyone confirm?) + +It took me a long time to adapt the .screenrc to my needs. In most cases, I +searched the web as well as this mailinglist (+archive) to find out what I needed... + +So, my idea was: Why not use the combined knowledge of the people +on this mailinglist to compile a user-friendly, yet powerful initial +.screenrc-configuration and ship it to the individual package-maintainers? +(The screen-wiki already links to some dotfiles which could be used for starters.) + +I would be glad to hear your comments on this idea... + +Best wishes, + +Holger + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Sep 27 08:42:28 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM, + PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC3A7EF36D + for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:42:28 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43437 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjZ7s-0001Pq-7u + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:42:20 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjZ7X-0001PS-W4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:42:00 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjZ7V-0001PD-N8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:41:58 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37010 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KjZ7V-0001PA-Hf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:41:57 -0400 +Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]:21493) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KjZ7V-0004jS-7N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:41:57 -0400 +Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so1329880fkq.10 + for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:41:53 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=D3cyWmbYPJFakN8WxeaTyAs0zZturq771q8YVSbsQ9E=; + b=pTH6aT9J8lIhv5C/ggSfzc605XvjGQpeBzMFpYuc02/UBHoH4GkJ5qLgEjtAba8uIC + VyuU0jgh2J1U3t7Fy8xnhfvA7dtXzUPTiqt9NCV8Hu4VlmqEq2L4i5FZZEeY+GXY8eMt + shCjqAcLgPAhY1OKCv5BgfFzHnF/Yf4w4tbM4= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=RoKGUGS7vOyTKEPu31rruxtUG2JA9xWvecmbr6A19j+Uc4eAZ+EPTYm7QkPMLWeS+K + iLyrsU1ozp+Z4y8wEG1pG6cDIFGjT/TPfM76zYw2bp3SoeQmfX0HmG4O1Nh4nTB8dyhp + o13FpSrgSlzkuXF2S00/Rpghpc+nhpmtFNlB0= +Received: by 10.103.252.17 with SMTP id e17mr1830456mus.115.1222519313566; + Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:41:53 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.103.182.8 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:41:53 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0809270541w426508esaf6d355740d18f25@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:41:53 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +In-Reply-To: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 585 +Lines: 19 + +Hello -- + +2008/9/26 : +> So, my idea was: Why not use the combined knowledge of the people +> on this mailinglist to compile a user-friendly, yet powerful initial +> .screenrc-configuration and ship it to the individual package-maintainers? +> (The screen-wiki already links to some dotfiles which could be used for starters.) + +It's a nice idea. See: + +http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?24387 + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 08:28:09 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HS_INDEX_PARAM, + PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAD77F55FB + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:28:09 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51479 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkeKc-00033z-FQ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:27:58 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjbLc-0007Uf-H7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:04:40 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KjbLa-0007TD-Rr + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:04:40 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50808 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KjbLa-0007T7-Lo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:04:38 -0400 +Received: from mail-gx0-f12.google.com ([209.85.217.12]:36093) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KjbLa-0002Tp-Bp + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:04:38 -0400 +Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so9439618gxk.18 + for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:04:36 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject + :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition + :in-reply-to:x-gpg-key:user-agent; + bh=rw+jMcq1lTCZIO9eC+s+tGPE7G9mqn/YgXqIo2SRwc4=; + b=StlsSr0rvLIRO4o+7hqX44Nsm+ivb7enW82QkpTa8fJT+R/fJ7mG8f4wLG7rQEyfss + qRbEYPBEEXzwpt5VE67AfNjM2kdUiwVPz58Y2xdW/nqElSPVVMhuA2UbLkIvDCojJ1Gr + x1qKAigaemVK0lYcF6znUJMVDB+00aB7J0+3Y= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version + :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-gpg-key:user-agent; + b=CLyP1B4VhjQd3b6/SaQ9n4302jBy2aiXz9gwvqRJBgwU/Wm/iTqLR8aMI21Trgwzjj + 1lwh13e223JcSlP4lXbb+mP2U7VtMBTfOr2Pw3z6iJcW4tdoyy6cHMfrOxUXtx/XBBc9 + uVE8z6bWHb+FiiqIkD0zVrRN/EhGlfQqzIj98= +Received: by 10.151.27.15 with SMTP id e15mr4152263ybj.33.1222527876584; + Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:04:36 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from lavaramano@gmail.com (24-120-231-201.fibertel.com.ar + [201.231.120.24]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s30sm16401elf.9.2008.09.27.08.04.34 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:04:35 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by lavaramano@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); + Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:04:22 -0300 +Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:04:22 -0300 +From: Mauro Lizaur +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20080927150422.GE7731@lusers.com.ar> +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> + <18071eea0809270541w426508esaf6d355740d18f25@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0809270541w426508esaf6d355740d18f25@mail.gmail.com> +X-GPG-Key: http://lusers.com.ar/mliz.asc +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:27:30 -0400 +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 915 +Lines: 31 + +On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Thomas Adam wrote: + +> Hello -- +> +> 2008/9/26 : +> > So, my idea was: Why not use the combined knowledge of the people +> > on this mailinglist to compile a user-friendly, yet powerful initial +> > .screenrc-configuration and ship it to the individual package-maintainers? +> > (The screen-wiki already links to some dotfiles which could be used for starters.) +> +> It's a nice idea. See: +> +> http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?24387 +> + +It's a really good idea, also i think that a small example of how to use the hardstatus +line (plus the backtick option) on the .screenrc would be great too. + +Regards, +Mauro + +-- +JID: lavaramano@jabber.org +http://lusers.com.ar/ +2B82 A38D 1BA5 847A A74D 6C34 6AB7 9ED6 C8FD F9C1 + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 08:29:16 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2626C740A99 + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:29:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51903 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkeLk-00041h-ET + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:29:08 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kk5jr-0002i0-7g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:31:43 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kk5jp-0002hc-AP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:31:42 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52813 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kk5jp-0002hZ-4e + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:31:41 -0400 +Received: from kuber.nabble.com ([216.139.236.158]:45653) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kk5jo-0004Xz-QV + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:31:40 -0400 +Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) + by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kk5jm-0001eN-HO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:31:38 -0700 +Message-ID: <19716613.post@talk.nabble.com> +Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:31:38 -0700 (PDT) +From: victorbrca +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Nabble-From: victorbrca@yahoo.ca +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:27:30 -0400 +Subject: Help attaching 3 running screens +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1001 +Lines: 42 + + +Hi all, + +I have a little script that takes a list of torrent files in a folder and +opens a new screen with ctorrent for each of those files (max of 3). + +I wanted to write another script that would create a new screen, split it in +3 and attach to those running screens. I have not clue where to start of if +that's even possible. Any ideas? + +This is my script: + +$ cat run_tor +#!/bin/bash + +## Last edit: Set the folder for download - 2008-08-31 + +_tor=0 +_port=( 10 11 12 ) + +_tor2=`ls $HOME/downloads/tor/*.torrent | tail -n 3` + +for i in $_tor2 ; do + cd $HOME/downloads/tor + /usr/bin/screen -d -m /usr/bin/ctorrent $i -p ${_port[_tor]} + _tor=$(( _tor + 1 )) +done + + +Thanks! + +Vic. +-- +View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Help-attaching-3-running-screens-tp19716613p19716613.html +Sent from the Gnu - Screen mailing list archive at Nabble.com. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 08:30:20 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B0A7F2A52 + for ; 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I +can't highlight or copy-past content to verify if this is the case. + +So this is where I am and it is worse then my past two configurations +without screen where either the screen would clear on exit or do +nothing leving the emacs/less output visible and providing a prompt. + +any help would be apreiciated.. + +Thanks! + +Ed + + +-- PS -- +aditional boring version information: + +Terminal.app verison:2.0.1 (240) +apple xterm: X.Org 6.8.99.903(235) +ubuntu xterm -version reports: XTerm(229) + +ubuntu screen version: Screen version 4.00.03 (FAU) 23-Oct-06 +apple screen version: Screen version 4.00.03 (FAU) 23-Oct-06 + +redhat ES 4 screen version: Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03 +(Red hat mahcines are remote...so no gui terminal emulation thought I +could if need be... + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 08:55:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47877E4F73 + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:56 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37993 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkelY-0000Fh-9Q + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:48 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkelF-0000Du-TF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:29 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkelD-0000Dd-10 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:28 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57824 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KkelC-0000Da-ST + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:26 -0400 +Received: from harvee.org ([70.91.135.121]:40135 helo=harvee2pb.harvee.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KkelC-0005t7-Iy + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:26 -0400 +Received: from harvee2pb.harvee.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by harvee2pb.harvee.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D1F112A41 + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:56:51 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from ceres.harvee.org (ceres.harvee.org [192.168.25.34]) + by harvee2pb.harvee.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CC8112A41; + Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:56:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from [192.168.253.10] (unknown [192.168.0.14]) + by ceres.harvee.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0184E57C2; + Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:10 -0400 (EDT) +Message-ID: <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> +Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:09 -0400 +From: "Eric S. Johansson" +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: holger.dinkel@gmail.com, screen-users@gnu.org +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +In-Reply-To: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Hashcash: 1:23:080930:screen-users@gnu.org::6oj+st6g045gQnOC:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000r8Qt +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1489 +Lines: 31 + +holger.dinkel@gmail.com wrote: +> Hi, +> +> I've been using screen for many years now, and find it indispensable. Still, +> I know quite some people, who never managed to get a hold of it. The initial +> learning curve is too steep for them, I guess... + +I use screen because I have to, not because I want to. What I value most about +screen is the ability to preserve a running session should I lose my connection. + What I value second is the ability to share a session. What I value least is +the multiple windows stuff and all that crap... err, those features. + +I found dtach which is 90% of what I need and I created a wrapper (Boleyn) to +try automatically reestablish connections on login but, I ran into some problems +and I haven't had time to revisit it. + +If I were a code god (which I most certainly am not), I would give screen a mode +where it does nothing but share and preserve connections and reestablish a +connection automatically if one is available. Although it probably be easier to +start with dtach if I can ever figure out how to differentiate between a "in +use" connection versus a detached connection. + +However, if you're trying to push screen adoption, your suggestions are good +ones. You could probably help matters/adoption if you created a "GUI" tool +usign dialogue with an eye to easing the option discovery process. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Sep 30 13:30:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2807F56DC + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:30:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43341 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kkj3e-0002wA-6F + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:30:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kkj2Q-0002f5-AR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kkj2O-0002dF-8B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:29 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42624 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kkj2O-0002d1-2d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:28 -0400 +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]:32943) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kkj2N-0002yO-Sl + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:27 -0400 +Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE1014C8086 + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:24 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]) + by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id 06822-11 for ; + Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:23 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from maneki-neko.metacarta.com (maneki-neko.metacarta.com + [208.80.142.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5B14C8085 + for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:23 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from eichin by maneki-neko.metacarta.com with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kkj2J-00068B-E7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:23 -0400 +From: Mark Eichin +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> + <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> +Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:29:23 -0400 +In-Reply-To: <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> (Eric S. Johansson's message of + "Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:09 -0400") +Message-ID: +User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1218 +Lines: 33 + +Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; mine is +nine lines, but 5 of them are trivial choices, and the others are +arguably workarounds for screen bugs: + + vbell off + escape ^\a + # let prompts appear in the titlebar + # any xterm, change xterm, change screen... + termcapinfo xterm* hs:ts=\E]0;:fs=^G:ds=\E]0;^G hs:ts=\E]0;:fs=^G:ds=\E]0;^G + hardstatus on + bind q windows + # let xterm scrollback behave + termcapinfo xterm* te@:ti@ + unsetenv DISPLAY + unsetenv WINDOWID + defscrollback 1000 + +and most of the time I go to a new machine, I only bother with the +escape setting. (I do have a few uses of screen as an "end-user init" +where it runs a bunch of processes, but practically application +development, it isn't useful to beginners either...) + +The real issue I've found getting people to use it is that you mostly +need to *show* them; the man page is a fine reference (it's one of the +ones that I reread every couple of years to look for new things to +use) but I'm a unix geek - I suspect a well done *screencast* would be +more useful than a screenrc... + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 1 15:06:43 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B817F46BD + for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:06:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47680 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl71v-00052J-07 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:06:35 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl71E-0004rF-6d + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:05:52 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl71B-0004pa-RB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:05:51 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57984 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kl71B-0004pG-6F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:05:49 -0400 +Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com ([66.249.90.182]:46001) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kl719-0001IX-Py + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:05:48 -0400 +Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so492939ika.2 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from + :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding; + bh=qEq2yzehIPT5BibDK6y+4+J7eZg6qY2/m6r5HEv3f3c=; + b=lSm5wKj9Hduji9TEv/4ZwNX/jaNycy7NWoNf7ULl1QC0MMXaE8Vcu4jfHZP14W93V6 + H8ohS2WB2yfHq/OMZaNDRnxjlCVRHjzZv3YKxup59BFI75HFUL7sWinSoiJATpGB805g + xSBcyxtPpEPX7sbTpRdt3Odm6GTPNF+3635Ms= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; + b=ebX54Ibl/4f2i0hDy7BZmTBJaNXpgOmvDSEMQ7t/pZ6h+iuT8VYeXPNMDOKYKXaaBD + 5Cfg1bO16h9d4P8mcpJKo8NdFroSXhRbyK3FSjDVI53DJK1vsas6ChgkU9ha3GgGE07u + T0z2ottNpcBnBcYBc6CWwFLmUux0N2Wdaf4Sc= +Received: by 10.210.24.7 with SMTP id 7mr10112314ebx.117.1222887931833; + Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from clam.local (5ad934a0.bb.sky.com [90.217.52.160]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm728516gvb.1.2008.10.01.12.05.28 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); + Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:05:30 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E3C9EE.6090007@gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:05:18 +0100 +From: William Pursell +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: sticky modifier keys +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 544 +Lines: 20 + + +I've recently started using sticky modifier keys +(eg, touch and release modifier, then hit a key to +get the modified key). KDE can be configured +to do this, and I can use loadkeys on a console, +but I recently was stuck on a console where I +didn't have root and couldn't do loadkeys to +set the modifiers to be sticky. + +Is there anyway to get this functionality with +screen? + +-- +William Pursell + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 1 17:13:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AD27F470E + for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:13:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35638 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl90n-00064L-LG + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:13:33 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl8zh-0005DP-3b + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:12:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl8ze-0005A9-7y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:12:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54542 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kl8zd-00059Z-3o + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:12:21 -0400 +Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.142.188]:14982) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kl8zc-0004pS-Mn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:12:20 -0400 +Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so2854337tia.10 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to + :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version + :subject:date:references:x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; + bh=n7Ppp3pErHAJUCw5ELWAaeceLsLj9SiqQNMk/wcfrX4=; + b=Qaw55ZZYUxi9YGs1lf7l94ONiiRYMmEJrb2S5C4NdoHkKrsFNNqJ50N2i+uzeZeKwr + 48qI0lzsRtVkmGzHroQtxh18/iBZZQh/aEv7bB63VRdJ8tN+WQWab2Rw5e4fqNvxH7Pp + 4huD9q92cBw6OjVsnoYklgzp6HcYHB8DIukvg= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references + :x-pgp-agent:x-mailer; + b=UCgysb976IZYy8gVzz93Pcs78Qwewbs1urwAG+C17GNRygzcVoCasYL/aSW75H5KM7 + GGEGSG3hG6sXCnBopgr5dSkSLbHVz0uDnfOsmD/WxcRRUFgd9GoWDEEVMlbXZl7GIg3G + 9sYFg6DNvb5Krng9hQ72v3q9Evx+qNK6oIa/w= +Received: by 10.110.46.3 with SMTP id t3mr12509488tit.33.1222895537842; + Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:12:17 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.64? 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Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 871 +Lines: 27 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +> Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; + +I had the same problem. When I first tried it I couldn't see the point. + +Then I had problems with a machine constantly disconnecting me due to +network problems, and out of frustration I tried screen to keep my +session. I worked great. + +I started signing it's praises to my colleagues once I learned that I +could have multiple connections to other machines in their own +windown on startup (with the help of ssh). +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkjj56sACgkQRTj13dyLvnqIPACeJ++xCwBmzwbzq9+47K9Q0NYY +j1gAn25UTUq8sjZEPfrGiGiPlga0bLYp +=QFcj +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 1 18:55:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C9D7F4195 + for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:55:37 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46345 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAbP-0000kg-Qm + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAb5-0000jj-To + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:08 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAb3-0000ib-Cg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35229 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlAb3-0000iT-2u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:05 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:44965) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlAb2-0004Jm-H5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:04 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.4] (adsl-76-247-115-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.115.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3D4408804A; + Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:55:40 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: David Marsh +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 890 +Lines: 27 + +David Marsh wrote: +>> Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; +> +> I had the same problem. When I first tried it I couldn't see the point. +> +> Then I had problems with a machine constantly disconnecting me due to +> network problems, and out of frustration I tried screen to keep my +> session. I worked great. +> +> I started signing it's praises to my colleagues once I learned that I +> could have multiple connections to other machines in their own windown +> on startup (with the help of ssh). + +Sounds more like praise of screen, rather than an argument for a large +sample screenrc file. + +-- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 1 18:59:07 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32282DA5F + for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:59:04 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59943 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAem-0002lS-Sz + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:58:56 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAeU-0002lN-Px + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:58:38 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlAeS-0002lB-Nq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:58:37 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43107 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlAeS-0002l8-Jx + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:58:36 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:45309) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlAeS-0004nO-C8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:58:36 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.4] (adsl-76-247-115-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.115.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD08408804A; + Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E400C3.7080806@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:59:15 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +In-Reply-To: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1395 +Lines: 39 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +holger.dinkel@gmail.com wrote: +> Hi, +> +> Some years ago, I tried several Linux-Distros (Debian, SuSe, Fedora) and found +> the initial .screenrc-configuration-file quite, umm, minimalistic. +> (I don't know if that is still the case? Can anyone confirm?) + +I think the main problem with this discussion is no one really has a +particularly clear understanding of what it is we're talking about +having. At least, I know I don't. I think it'd be more fruitful to +mention specific deficiencies or improvements that may be made to the +current example screenrc and/or etc/screenrc (from our sources, +obviously, and not any that might be packager-specific). A diff against +the currently-shipped screenrc, or even a wholly new one, with +justifications for why it's an improvement over its predecessor, would +help greatly. + +- -- +Micah J. 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Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1200 +Lines: 39 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + + +On 02/10/2008, at 8:55 AM, Micah Cowan wrote: + +> David Marsh wrote: +>>> Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; +>> +>> I had the same problem. When I first tried it I couldn't see the +>> point. +> +> Sounds more like praise of screen, rather than an argument for a large +> sample screenrc file. + +Oh, indeed it is certainly praise for screen. + +Maybe I didn't explain what I meant very well; When I tried screen for +the very first time I really didn't understand how it worked or even +what it did that I couldn't do with a tabbed terminal manager. + +A simple .screenrc file that opened two windows with shell in each, +plus a nice simple hardstatus line might have help me to understand +how screen was useful sooner. + +Maybe put a very simple example on http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) + +iEYEARECAAYFAkjkjYcACgkQRTj13dyLvnoBtgCeKrnaKvoU7X/nP4ALOs6E/Cbl +HkEAnj7LY2NjXSGwfi+CbC712e9az2/q +=terw +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 06:16:46 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694287EE5D9 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:16:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45291 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlLEa-0006DW-ES + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:16:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlLE5-0006B3-Bo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:16:05 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlLE1-00066t-BX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:16:04 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44381 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlLE1-00066e-3x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:16:01 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.245]:13094) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlLE0-0008R9-JJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:16:00 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1159031rvb.6 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:15:59 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=Yiy98W1hpSYiTCBCJHbV40BtJrgjka2vOOtqSuT31no=; + b=e2rgK0swYBe8xuZ9KR8V/2/oezXla0HVtA8Hw6HwdqiLm7ba3fEz87rapQjdInJAc6 + n/tHo39NfpjJWoC0o2E93k/ROrh7gvyWHf1QsIPO2/jaQlDDor8OzyxidBG+vA7LtcWF + mmkMYY6HePOfTxG/x3T2WmMyef+kuwlWWmErE= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=WQe7A3gDPJsJRBJLpfqJq6EfDUO9G59EJXYc97gHdIw4r4a6Zua5XvoxIOlvnZOYp4 + 6TKefX//gaa9Sc1KqYFrNOboRrjQCuNmfdjyWrICLCfAZN1cUhPQ0vZS3tjaTENufvPo + ckdZ6g+m+bZzURWgRSOyIvMYdyoL5o1JyU5MM= +Received: by 10.141.98.18 with SMTP id a18mr5133523rvm.60.1222942558866; + Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:15:58 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.226.21 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:15:58 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:15:58 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> + <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> + <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1622 +Lines: 45 + +On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM, David Marsh wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> +> On 02/10/2008, at 8:55 AM, Micah Cowan wrote: +> +>> David Marsh wrote: +>>>> +>>>> Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; +>>> +>>> I had the same problem. When I first tried it I couldn't see the point. +>> +>> Sounds more like praise of screen, rather than an argument for a large +>> sample screenrc file. +> +> Oh, indeed it is certainly praise for screen. +> +> Maybe I didn't explain what I meant very well; When I tried screen for the +> very first time I really didn't understand how it worked or even what it did +> that I couldn't do with a tabbed terminal manager. +> +> A simple .screenrc file that opened two windows with shell in each, plus a +> nice simple hardstatus line might have help me to understand how screen was +> useful sooner. + +i don't remember off the top of my head what the /etc/screenrc and/or +default settings are in the source distro of screen, but i've seen +plenty of installations where not having a ~/.screenrc leads to screen +starting with no status line at all--you can't tell anything's +happened, even once you start creating new windows. the only way to +know you're inside screen would be by the odd things that happen once +you hit ctrl-A. + +a default hardstatus/caption showing, at minimum, the list of screens +with the current one highlighted would be a huge help. +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:12:45 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY, + RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F52C7E8C4C + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:12:45 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39250 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlOuz-0001I1-2e + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:12:37 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqMb-0000P1-J5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:18:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqMY-0000M3-NR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:18:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36121 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KkqMY-0000Lm-EG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:18:46 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:44188 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KkqMY-0006Ul-2t + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:18:46 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqMN-0002cj-LO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:18:35 +0000 +Received: from 203.7.155.64 ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:18:35 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by 203.7.155.64 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:18:35 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:18:40 +1000 +Message-ID: <30myhpf6z3.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.7.155.64 +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:RY1kWWa77raQmoRcf726cvkvdiI= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:12:15 -0400 +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2856 +Lines: 51 + +holger.dinkel@gmail.com writes: + +> Some years ago, I tried several Linux distros and found /etc/screenrc +> quite minimalistic. It took me a long time to adapt the .screenrc to +> my needs. + +Screen definitely has a big problem with discoverability. Very often, +I'll be chatting to someone and they'll say "oh wow, screen can do that? +I never knew!" And "that" could be anything from auto-naming windows +with :shelltitle to connecting to talking to serial ttys (replacing +minicom) to entering latin-1 characters using :digraph. + +(Incidentally Micah, implementing all the digraphs documented in the RFC +would be a neat Unicode-related enhancement.) + +> So, my idea was: Why not use the combined knowledge of the people +> on this mailinglist to compile a user-friendly, yet powerful initial +> .screenrc-configuration and ship it to the individual package-maintainers? + +I'm strongly against integrators shipping their favourite customizations +as the default configuration. Let me give an example: a few months ago, +RMS decided that the colour red was too hard to read on his terminal, so +he changed the DEFAULT emacs configuration so that comments have the +same colour as normal text on the terminal. To get the old behaviour +back, I have to add about 30 lines to my .emacs -- whereas RMS could +have just added a single line to *his* emacs to turn that color off. + +Summary: fixing unwanted changes to distro-specific on-by-default +features is difficult and annoying. Don't make distro-specific tweaks +unless you have a REALLY good reason. + +IMO a better approach would be to have a documentation resource that has +a number of articles that explain how to use Screen features in "real +world" scenarios. For example, rather than just saying "use ^A^M to +turn monitoring on", you'd start with a problem "how do I know when +people are talking in IRC, using irssi?" and then discuss how to +implement it effectively -- which would include not only discussion of +:monitor, but also how to do things like turning off the clock in irssi, +so you don't get "spurious" activity every minute when it changes. + +(I started writing a "Screen Hacks" book along these lines, but got +distracted appallingly quickly.) + +If you just dump a bunch of .screenrcs somewhere with the (typically +limited) commentary to explain what each part does, all you'll end up +with is the scenario where people just copy-and-paste other people's +.screenrcs wholesale, with no understanding of what they do. This tends +to cause regressions -- for example, someone might accidentally copy my +"sorendition = dd" line when they are trying to get my hardstatus +configuration, and then complain that their hardstatus line doesn't have +colour anymore. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:13:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0753B7E8C4C + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:13:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39719 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlOvl-0001hF-3c + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:13:25 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqiT-00035v-4h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:41:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqiS-00035f-5H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:41:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35262 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KkqiS-00035c-2t + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:41:24 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:39729 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KkqiR-0000hU-2h + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:41:23 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KkqiO-0003KW-Ne + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:41:20 +0000 +Received: from 203.7.155.64 ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:41:20 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by 203.7.155.64 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:41:20 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:41:22 +1000 +Message-ID: <307i8tf5x9.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <1825B91A-6F08-4910-A02E-447B2A16B2D5@me.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.7.155.64 +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:zXorS+8nJbA+mnmX7A0q4Qt7/P8= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:12:15 -0400 +Subject: Re: Screen has odd blank out behaviour +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2315 +Lines: 50 + +Ed Wagner writes: +> [a long, confusing post] + +I'm sorry, Ed, but I just couldn't understand that post. + +Please answer the following questions *separately*: + +1) what are the steps to reproduce the problem? +2) what happens when you follow the steps in (1)? +3) what do you want/expect to happen when you follow the steps in (1)? + +In your previous post you have mixed up the answers with + +- your guesses as to what the problem is; +- what references you consulted; and +- your attempts to fix the problem + +These data get in the way when we're trying to understand what the +problem *is* (the first three questions). It's like going to your +doctor and saying "I need this leg amputated" (your guess) instead of +"my knee make a funny cracking noise when I bend over" (the problem). +By all means give your guesses, but do that *after* answering the first +three questions. + +Here's an example of a good report: + + From Terminal.app in OS X, I ssh to a Debian Etch server and run + screen there. In screen if I then run less(1), when I quit less the + screen is cleared -- I just get a shell prompt at the top of the + screen. I want it to go back to showing the shell output from before + I ran less. For example, if I ran "ls -l" before I ran "less", I + expect the ls output to be displayed again when I quit less. + + This problem also happens if I connect to the Debian server from an + Ubuntu 8.04 laptop using xterm or gnome-terminal. It also happens if + I run "emacs" instead of "less". + + The problem goes away if I just ssh to the server and run less or + emacs straight away (without starting screen), the problem goes away. + + The problem still happens if I remove my .screenrc on both OS X and on + the Debian server. I'm starting a new screen session each time, not + using "screen -R" to reconnect to an old one. + + I looked at the screen manual and the mailing list archive, but I + couldn't work out how to fix this. I tried putting "autonuke off" in + my .screenrc on the Debian server, but it didn't help. + +References: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html +German translation: http://www.tty1.net/smart-questions_de.html + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:14:15 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C97A742C7F + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:14:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40206 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlOwR-00026F-SK + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:14:07 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl7Hs-0002Sy-Ew + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:23:04 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kl7Hq-0002RI-Sg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:23:04 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39477 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kl7Hq-0002R3-Lq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:23:02 -0400 +Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]:22105) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kl7Hq-0004u9-C4 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:23:02 -0400 +Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so1161643uge.17 + for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:content-type + :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; + bh=knT7fuoLlbGFOWdAgVupUYtrIcIEIqRvrCuqJpAHKGk=; + b=ETOcmJYt3iiZW3Lib1lqDP/KBj041RS4GCHj9P/9CoGSdwiUHtYsefSHZbZy2bnTyk + iI64u/6RE1Mn5tVGp9kN8vCNPHTkPW7BSlzvqmELtb5vnHNvoBn/U2q2Q//511AFeODR + c02YDxAk7HtVVL6J+OBtXnxUxFAiOHBYRJ+8Y= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer + :content-transfer-encoding; + b=hda9/Uco28EFm3he0LY1AlsLdXLBerDlNZDu5gZq+uXJF2apPb+6rqzXff00AKxbj3 + iqpQz+4uMHedGkogUDV4nwp58fPUaK8yl4Aa/ZN3MBAtX8FHpnl/2VdBaa2VI8FLeQpv + UIAgy2NsTYgyywg4kewRrmsg8by41fMDenU8Q= +Received: by 10.66.233.10 with SMTP id f10mr3105028ugh.8.1222888981516; + Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.3? 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I'm +trying to do exactly the opposite...I want screen (when used in a +terminal program that announces itself as "xterm" e.g. real xterm or +putty) to never touch the hardware status line (title bar) of the window. + +I tried "hardstatus off", which makes the "C-a w" command and other +informational messages appear in the last line of the terminal in +reverse text (as if i was using a vt100 or some other terminal type that +doesn't have the hardware status capability), however there are still +some actions (creating a new window, switching windows), that muck with +the title bar. + +I don't have access to the termcap/terminfos so i can't change those. +I'm looking for a way to do this via command line or via .screenrc. + +Is there a config param i missed? Or does anyone have any other ideas? + +Thanks. + +...alex... + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:15:48 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7867EA317 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:15:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41161 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlOxw-0002yj-Ej + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:15:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlCcv-0005dl-2u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:05:09 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlCct-0005cb-Lj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:05:08 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51087 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlCct-0005cY-FO + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:05:07 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:41550 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KlCct-0007Ng-2t + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:05:07 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlCco-0006ig-Uh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:05:02 +0000 +Received: from 203.7.155.64 ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:05:02 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by 203.7.155.64 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:05:02 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:05:06 +1000 +Message-ID: <30fxnfzu0t.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <48E3C9EE.6090007@gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.7.155.64 +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:r8R8dxpleVI96Jf7rYYoH5xL4oc= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:12:16 -0400 +Subject: Re: sticky modifier keys +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 676 +Lines: 14 + +William Pursell +writes: + +> I've recently started using sticky modifier keys [...] +> Is there anyway to get this functionality with screen? + +I think it's impossible. X11 clients can see keydown and keyup events +for the modifier key(s) and the non-mod key separately. Screen just +sees a single event (a keydownup, essentially) of the entire +chord. + +For example if you press Control_L and Alt_L, nothing is +sent to screen until you also press (say) f -- at which point Screen +sees the two chords ^[ ^F. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:29:55 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C4F7E436E + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:29:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48075 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPBb-00064U-7J + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:29:47 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPAV-0005ZL-IM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:28:39 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPAT-0005Yb-Qi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:28:39 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60153 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlPAT-0005YW-Ku + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:28:37 -0400 +Received: from mail5.dslextreme.com ([66.51.199.81]:45920) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlPAT-00037V-Al + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:28:37 -0400 +Received: (qmail 13382 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2008 14:28:34 -0000 +Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.bludgeon.org) (208.127.177.191) + by mail5.dslextreme.com with SMTP; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:28:34 -0700 +Received: by arthur.bludgeon.org (Postfix, from userid 500) + id AE201D989E8; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:28:33 -0700 +From: Ray Van Dolson +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20081002142833.GA24310@bludgeon.org> +References: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 +Subject: Re: Deatached Sessions Dissapair after reboot. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 570 +Lines: 19 + +On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:22:58PM +0200, peter holm wrote: +> I am running Ubuntu Hardy +> I use screen mostley locallly. +> I have this problem. +> When i deatacch a screensession and then reboot its gone. +> +> is there anything i can do to make my computer save the sessions between +> reboots.? + +No. The actual shell process gets killed on reboot. There would be +nothing for the session data to point to any longer. + +Ray + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 10:43:42 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B297F0F6D + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:43:42 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39070 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPOw-0002tx-IV + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:34 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPOb-0002ta-9r + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:13 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlPOa-0002tO-Qj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:12 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46226 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlPOa-0002tL-NE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:12 -0400 +Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.150]:6000) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlPOa-0001mX-Fh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:43:12 -0400 +Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so283077qwk.24 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=pFxM3eHgAkOVTqAjadFxeAUMPwhroOKMgiI75MKe3mw=; + b=h6kH7VXDDi5ioqWrg/0GA7FoZzKjXXfc3vNBT+d2sQzfNVCHELU5dacOWewRiJVk6O + JodcHCx2ZY35LPuIB8BGDKVZqt45yV/PSeyQXOUUHJJTKqwspq7AkqRE9aS9gUbjwuk8 + ZLwOHwja2Pt9fEvu/B93VQ8W1zeeA2cDt2dFI= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=DpiVrmvk3FP8G6RDMIbtuZA2MehvVfSOWZ2+uAU+nOWkPx3Y3coEr+1xgtZM17JsjK + xgw0e90gZbEVCE88DmRjGh8+DL9HDzdRQZAyIBSOprGKeIRJjwWZcgl1f3PgAtlTyZ+C + tFp5zUMm3T1a2JUa9Ego/Va6Qtznag+xsiH3w= +Received: by 10.214.26.18 with SMTP id 18mr9769922qaz.83.1222958589816; + Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.215.100.13 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <1b30fd140810020743g29942786n77e3e392c462f85@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:43:09 +0100 +From: davidcollins001@gmail.com +To: "Ray Van Dolson" +In-Reply-To: <20081002142833.GA24310@bludgeon.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> + <20081002142833.GA24310@bludgeon.org> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Deatached Sessions Dissapair after reboot. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +X-Status: A +Content-Length: 1232 +Lines: 36 + +I generally have long running screen sessions that have certain +windows open, not always the same so not worth setting in .screenrc. +Is it possible for screen to save session? Or at least just save the +window name, number, path and just some basic info that would be able +to use to reopen the same configuration? + +Sorry if this is seen as ambushing the thread I thought it was a +relavent enough question to ask in this thread. + +On 02/10/2008, Ray Van Dolson wrote: +> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 09:22:58PM +0200, peter holm wrote: +>> I am running Ubuntu Hardy +>> I use screen mostley locallly. +>> I have this problem. +>> When i deatacch a screensession and then reboot its gone. +>> +>> is there anything i can do to make my computer save the sessions between +>> reboots.? +> +> No. The actual shell process gets killed on reboot. There would be +> nothing for the session data to point to any longer. +> +> Ray +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 11:36:37 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822877EBF82 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:36:37 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33266 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlQE7-0000K0-2K + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:27 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlQDn-0000JW-6P + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlQDl-0000Ie-IT + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33699 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlQDl-0000IX-Fm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:05 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58438) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlQDl-0000af-5V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:05 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.4] (adsl-76-247-115-14.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.247.115.14]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06E7408804A; + Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:36:03 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E4EA8F.2060602@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:36:47 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Alex Tang +References: <48E3E0D7.20503@funkware.com> +In-Reply-To: <48E3E0D7.20503@funkware.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: config to get screen to never touch the hardware status line + in xterm +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1134 +Lines: 34 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Alex Tang wrote: +> Hi folks. +> I've been reading on google and in the archives about how folks do cool +> things with the hardstatus and "hardware status" line in xterms. I'm +> trying to do exactly the opposite...I want screen (when used in a +> terminal program that announces itself as "xterm" e.g. real xterm or +> putty) to never touch the hardware status line (title bar) of the window. + +AIUI, Screen will only ever touch the xterm title bar if it has been +told it's the "hardstatus line" via "termcapinfo" lines that define the +fs and ts features. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFI5OqO7M8hyUobTrERApy2AJ9EV4bdrQlMBBOZ/hIfuaJZdzk5sQCcCQJJ +Ts2ANwXb+GuXv5h+Uuj7A7Q= +=p9sy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 13:23:23 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16867ED63B + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:23:23 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32882 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlRtR-0001Kc-8n + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:23:13 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlRt7-0001KL-Hy + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:53 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlRt6-0001K5-NG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:53 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53827 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlRt6-0001K2-JP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:52 -0400 +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]:45052) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlRt6-00024h-9I + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:52 -0400 +Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C8D14C8094 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:22:49 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]) + by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id 16321-11 for ; + Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:22:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from maneki-neko.metacarta.com (maneki-neko.metacarta.com + [208.80.142.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D04E14C8091 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:22:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from eichin by maneki-neko.metacarta.com with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlRt1-00060O-UJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:48 -0400 +From: Mark Eichin +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> +Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:22:47 -0400 +In-Reply-To: <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> (David Marsh's + message of "Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:12:11 +1000") +Message-ID: +User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1294 +Lines: 29 + +David Marsh writes: + +>> Yeah, I don't quite see how a screenrc would help either; +> +> I had the same problem. When I first tried it I couldn't see the point. +> +> Then I had problems with a machine constantly disconnecting me due to +> network problems, and out of frustration I tried screen to keep my +> session. I worked great. +> +> I started signing it's praises to my colleagues once I learned that I +> could have multiple connections to other machines in their own +> windown on startup (with the help of ssh). + +My take on that is that it's still not a screenrc that's important, +but getting the user to understand screen-management in the first +place - those features don't make sense until you "get" screen +selection (I have some colleagues who still don't, but are quite happy +to use screen for single-session preservation.) Once you get that, +"oh yeah, you can stuff things you like in .screenrc, just like you do +with your .bashrc or .login" is a *very* small step; it's the features +themselves that need promotion. (Thus my suggestion of screencasts, +as a substitute for the look-over-my-shoulder approach.) + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 14:15:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA157F4FC4 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:15:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36133 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlSi8-0007qM-WC + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:15:37 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlSgE-0007GF-QZ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:38 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlSgC-0007Fs-1x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:38 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49505 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlSgB-0007Fj-SS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:35 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:50997) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlSgB-0002qC-Hb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:35 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87649408804A; + Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:12:46 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E50F1D.4030300@cowan.name> +Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:12:45 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: David Marsh +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> + <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Error: This connection + is not (no longer?) in the cache. +Cc: Screen Users +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1059 +Lines: 34 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +David Marsh wrote: +> A simple .screenrc file that opened two windows with shell in each, plus +> a nice simple hardstatus line might have help me to understand how +> screen was useful sooner. + +Yes, but then it's not a useful default .screenrc, more of a sample of +what you might do. IMO, that makes it a better candidate for the Wiki +than inclusion in the source package. + +Really, screen could do with a nice tutorial, in addition to its current +reference-manual documentation. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFI5Q8d7M8hyUobTrERAm4TAKCFxz8TQVevvU7GCUls4JpBMn9rnACfSBMm +JB+nnRToK9YP6DENjsXWpZc= +=HF0r +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 19:47:20 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00FE7EF9F2 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:47:19 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52746 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlXsy-0000Tf-P5 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:47:08 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlXsg-0000Ta-0n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:46:50 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlXse-0000TO-Nh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:46:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48133 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlXse-0000TL-IH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:46:48 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:60388 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KlXse-0003Ps-7x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:46:48 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlXsb-0000yk-2Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:46:45 +0000 +Received: from nat064.cyber.com.au ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:46:45 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by nat064.cyber.com.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 + (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:46:45 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:46:53 +1000 +Message-ID: <30prmir24y.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:Kp/OR6YH5XB6FKA9uqi7TAl6AAs= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Deatached Sessions Dissapair after reboot. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1101 +Lines: 22 + +peter holm +writes: + +> I am running Ubuntu Hardy +> I use screen mostley locallly. +> I have this problem. +> When i deatacch a screensession and then reboot its gone. +> +> is there anything i can do to make my computer save the sessions between +> reboots.? + +Like all other processes, the screen session's status is stored in +volatile memory. That means when the hardware loses power, the process +state vanishes. Nothing you can do inside screen can stop this. + +What you *can* do is investigate the ACPI sleep status sometimes called +"suspend to ram" or "suspend to disk". The former will put your machine +into a low-power mode, but still provide power to the volatile memory. +The latter, which is probably what you want, writes a copy of the +volatile memory to a swap partition, and restores it when you turn the +machine back on. This gives you (some) benefits of an always-on machine +without the continuous power consumption. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 19:55:35 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7707ED8E1 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:55:34 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60044 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY10-0002vT-7Q + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:26 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY0i-0002vE-Gi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:08 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY0h-0002v2-4R + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:07 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45611 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlY0g-0002uz-Up + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:06 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:49850 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KlY0g-0006Qg-Bf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:06 -0400 +Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY0c-0001PE-OS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:55:02 +0000 +Received: from nat064.cyber.com.au ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:55:02 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by nat064.cyber.com.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 + (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:55:02 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:50:22 +1000 +Message-ID: <30iqsar1z5.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <48E3E0D7.20503@funkware.com> <48E4EA8F.2060602@cowan.name> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:/8pASetEjvP0LTRE/z2cmTgx/1Q= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: config to get screen to never touch the hardware status line + in xterm +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1021 +Lines: 18 + +Micah Cowan writes: + +> Alex Tang wrote: +>> Hi folks. +>> I've been reading on google and in the archives about how folks do cool +>> things with the hardstatus and "hardware status" line in xterms. I'm +>> trying to do exactly the opposite...I want screen (when used in a +>> terminal program that announces itself as "xterm" e.g. real xterm or +>> putty) to never touch the hardware status line (title bar) of the window. +> +> AIUI, Screen will only ever touch the xterm title bar if it has been +> told it's the "hardstatus line" via "termcapinfo" lines that define the +> fs and ts features. + +When I've had the misfortune to use CentOS-based hosts, I noticed they +fucked with the xterm window title by default. This probably means that +either RHEL or the guy who built our SOE put stupid nonstandard things +in /etc/screenrc (or /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm). + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 19:59:41 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C4F7EC34C + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:59:40 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36992 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY4y-0004ea-FE + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:32 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY4h-0004eV-As + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:15 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlY4e-0004eJ-Qj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:14 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57768 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlY4e-0004eG-Ln + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:12 -0400 +Received: from dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com ([216.158.3.70]:56831) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KlY4e-0007qM-7Z + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:12 -0400 +Received: from [207.245.124.125] (port=58135 helo=worlock.plastic-idolatry.com) + by dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) + id 1KlY4a-0000RW-V7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:59:09 -0400 +Received: by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) + id 211A6770974; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:59:16 -0400 (EDT) +Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:59:16 -0400 +From: Erik Osheim +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20081002235912.GB32049@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com> +References: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> + <20081002142833.GA24310@bludgeon.org> + <1b30fd140810020743g29942786n77e3e392c462f85@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <1b30fd140810020743g29942786n77e3e392c462f85@mail.gmail.com> +X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes +X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 207.245.124.125 +X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com); + SAEximRunCond expanded to false +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 +Subject: Re: Deatached Sessions Dissapair after reboot. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1953 +Lines: 45 + +On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 03:43:09PM +0100, davidcollins001@gmail.com wrote: +> I generally have long running screen sessions that have certain +> windows open, not always the same so not worth setting in .screenrc. +> Is it possible for screen to save session? Or at least just save the +> window name, number, path and just some basic info that would be able +> to use to reopen the same configuration? +> +> Sorry if this is seen as ambushing the thread I thought it was a +> relavent enough question to ask in this thread. + +It might be possible for screen to detect what it "thinks" is the last +command you ran in each window, and write that out to a file. Just off +the top of my head, here are the problems with that: + +1. Job control/shell tricks + +2. Whether to re-run commands from absolute or relative locations (e.g. +if you are in ~/alpha, run "xyz ./foo", then later resume from ~/beta, +should you do "xyz ./foo" or "xyz ~/alpha/foo". + +3. Commands you would not want to repeat (e.g. rm, cvs, svn, dd, tar, +mv, cp, gunzip, yum, apt-get, etc.) + +The recurring theme is that commands would very probably go wrong, +potentially catastrophically wrong, and that users would probably not +want a 95% success for a mildly convenient action if 5% of the time +something really horrible happened. For commands that it's (presumably) +always safe to run a .screenrc or script is much more reliable than +this sort of feature. + +I imagine it would probably be possible to save a log of what windows +existed with some info, so that if screen crashes you could at least +see what was going on, but that's about it. + +-- Erik + +P.S. It's certainly true that many of my coworkers are surprised to +see their screen sessions die when the servers get turned over every +year or so. People expect this feature, despite its complexity. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 2 20:37:44 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609057EC7B9 + for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:37:44 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39543 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlYfn-0001Lw-Mn + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:37:35 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlYfW-0001Lr-9V + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:37:18 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlYfT-0001Lf-Vh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:37:17 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36180 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlYfT-0001Lc-Py + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:37:15 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.247]:56467) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlYfT-0004iW-Ha + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:37:15 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1556261rvb.6 + for ; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:37:12 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=uHf/juahvS7byiAbANboH/RdhFfd3pn7+e3kKLBkrzQ=; + b=dSdDA0YOrsl9TRh1Wl5Rs+bXj/JGJ7iZ8nZb86fejzBT9l3b+wCNgsPQC9njpOh3Ka + IstUIiC1UEK2Fnwo9K0ZPJL+X0CEbRsMMQlQCcYNm8tPNK8P4yUZAqHYdjQSvL2p5YWr + 3KUDmJCUfdsJqndtPK0l8hMIFth6Jweaig0xk= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=PYyM4ZP0okLrpRJrHQ9q5n1h2D0NEqas7FmdzXP/1Q7MjUPtVxSGhlw3n20JmHaVrQ + 9Lb/3B8m/b7R/pPYejbEJQYpHH6hvWl+7oP+OcDWlMj4+T8mAsXJuuKPQ9x9mjqBvHDj + BXx0BQPYphS8HMwy5lGSbpEhsJmT+bZmTBQcw= +Received: by 10.141.210.13 with SMTP id m13mr205936rvq.25.1222994232563; + Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:37:12 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.226.21 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:37:12 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:37:12 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <1222888978.6095.13.camel@ubTop> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Deatached Sessions Dissapair after reboot. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 523 +Lines: 19 + +On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:22 AM, peter holm wrote: +> I am running Ubuntu Hardy +> I use screen mostley locallly. +> I have this problem. +> When i deatacch a screensession and then reboot its gone. +> +> is there anything i can do to make my computer save the sessions between +> reboots.? + +well, there's CryoPID.... +-- +Aaron Davies +aaron.davies@gmail.com + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 3 13:38:27 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9527EBF83 + for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:38:26 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51136 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlobX-0008Bn-Ep + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:38:15 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlobE-0008Bi-Lq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:37:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KlobC-0008BW-BS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:37:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51841 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlobC-0008BT-4B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:37:54 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58443) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KlobB-0006XV-V3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:37:54 -0400 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC5F408804C + for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <48E6586E.3020600@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:37:50 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Screen Users +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Help Wanted Ad at Savannah +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 705 +Lines: 26 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +I've just posted the following job ad with Savannah: + +https://savannah.gnu.org/people/viewjob.php?group_id=4235&job_id=512 + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFI5lhu7M8hyUobTrERAiQVAJ9dErgQEttraqtuQKcJWkdwtTkOewCfUOvN +ITvD10jKBxNjD5Wzgw4op2I= +=a1mN +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 3 15:53:09 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham + version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262207F5AE3 + for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:53:09 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35033 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Klqhx-0005GD-2h + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:53:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Klmnw-0004o3-7x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:42:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Klmnt-0004mR-Mi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:42:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60568 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Klmnt-0004lt-71 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:42:53 -0400 +Received: from dsl081-056-026.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.56.26]:30901 + helo=mail.funkware.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Klmnr-0002VJ-JY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:42:51 -0400 +Received: from lostzilla.funkware.com (unauthorized-7-7.funkware.com + [127.0.0.1]) + by mail.funkware.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m93FgcRD000393 + for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:42:38 -0700 +Message-ID: <48E63D6E.8050706@funkware.com> +Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:42:38 -0700 +From: Alex Tang +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <48E3E0D7.20503@funkware.com> +In-Reply-To: <48E3E0D7.20503@funkware.com> +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:52:41 -0400 +Subject: Re: config to get screen to never touch the hardware status line + in xterm +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1382 +Lines: 42 + +Hi again folks. + +Thanks for the info. I primarily use RHEL and CentOS based systems, so +poking around teh /etc/screenrc shows that they added the hardstatus +stuff specifically. + +I am able to get what i want by putting + + termcapinfo xterm hs@ + +in my .screenrc and it works like a charm. + +Thanks very much! + +...alex... + +>Micah Cowan writes: +> +>>/ Alex Tang wrote:/ +>/>> Hi folks./ +>/>> I've been reading on google and in the archives about how folks do cool/ +>/>> things with the hardstatus and "hardware status" line in xterms. I'm/ +>/>> trying to do exactly the opposite...I want screen (when used in a/ +>/>> terminal program that announces itself as "xterm" e.g. real xterm or/ +>/>> putty) to never touch the hardware status line (title bar) of the window./ +>> +>/> AIUI, Screen will only ever touch the xterm title bar if it has been/ +>/> told it's the "hardstatus line" via "termcapinfo" lines that define the/ +>/> fs and ts features./ +> +>When I've had the misfortune to use CentOS-based hosts, I noticed they +>fucked with the xterm window title by default. This probably means that +>either RHEL or the guy who built our SOE put stupid nonstandard things +>in /etc/screenrc (or /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm). + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Oct 4 16:33:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CA77E30B4 + for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:33:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58334 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmDou-0002iu-6I + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:33:44 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmCJY-00079I-HY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:57:16 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmCJX-00078l-03 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:57:16 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40262 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmCJW-00078i-SB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:57:14 -0400 +Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.4.200]:54285) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KmCJW-0000hn-FP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:57:14 -0400 +Received: from turki (ool-45704694.dyn.optonline.net [69.112.70.148]) + by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net + (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) + with ESMTP id <0K8800EXZ9ZCHQB0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for + screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:57:13 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from gavron by turki with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KmCIo-0002Yr-B2 for screen-users@gnu.org; + Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:56:30 -0400 +Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:56:30 -0400 +From: Chris Jones +In-reply-to: <48E50F1D.4030300@cowan.name> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Mail-followup-to: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-id: <20081004185630.GC15208@turki.gavron.org> +MIME-version: 1.0 +Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT +Content-disposition: inline +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> + <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> + <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> + <48E50F1D.4030300@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:33:26 -0400 +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1434 +Lines: 47 + +On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 02:12:45PM EDT, Micah Cowan wrote: +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> David Marsh wrote: +> > A simple .screenrc file that opened two windows with shell in each, plus +> > a nice simple hardstatus line might have help me to understand how +> > screen was useful sooner. +> +> Yes, but then it's not a useful default .screenrc, more of a sample of +> what you might do. IMO, that makes it a better candidate for the Wiki +> than inclusion in the source package. +> +> Really, screen could do with a nice tutorial, in addition to its current +> reference-manual documentation. + +Has anyone here taken a peek at David Douthitt's + + "GNU Screen A Comprehensive Introduction" + +??? + +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +> GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iD8DBQFI5Q8d7M8hyUobTrERAm4TAKCFxz8TQVevvU7GCUls4JpBMn9rnACfSBMm +> JB+nnRToK9YP6DENjsXWpZc= +> =HF0r +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Oct 4 16:38:31 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,PLING_QUERY + autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD1A7EE11F + for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:38:31 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34388 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmDtP-00046I-IV + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:38:23 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmDt6-00046B-BE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:38:04 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmDt2-00045j-9e + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:38:03 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37558 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmDt2-00045g-41 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:38:00 -0400 +Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]:59401) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KmDt1-0000SI-JN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:37:59 -0400 +Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1902207mue.6 + for ; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=aFswTGWqTXMafGLnM4RAqnZn9WD/sTKiD9/kPEw12JQ=; + b=CQ8chOOwl2vuXlmDv8afwmmr3CwXD/D9a1/QnCx/oEpLOqdpb+HXLe7yu4TI2ktdmt + W/lcKf36JJqB9HXA/mVbVH8wHc0I7atXmuYIvEKiCZDItC5/t6HDtkn0akHivVvFJ5dm + fV29OQXMVmQx6XpcEf7PQeSP2qT6WrgM5Yha0= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=xUUNPnXHtM3qbOa9IIBnm+kUs+fwPKyzntZ8MJGGda/eoSkdmVAPZmK7P7bGQILP5A + Gx8aW15jQypdj23RYi0MXQH4crrffzcjcZ+tZ5XIuP/Ds96mRf0/8NRmuX0WJMjb1hZA + riGV3MusVJFNzpbonJ5U9IG7+HrnbqolR2TE4= +Received: by 10.103.251.3 with SMTP id d3mr1672632mus.73.1223152676691; + Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.103.182.8 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 13:37:56 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0810041337i4ddbee39pda3108ca7ec93e0@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:37:56 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <20081004185630.GC15208@turki.gavron.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> + <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> + <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> + <48E50F1D.4030300@cowan.name> + <20081004185630.GC15208@turki.gavron.org> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 412 +Lines: 15 + +2008/10/4 Chris Jones : +> Has anyone here taken a peek at David Douthitt's +> +> "GNU Screen A Comprehensive Introduction" + +Yes -- it's not that comprehensive, and reads like an annotated +version of the screen users' manual. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Oct 4 22:53:20 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_DOB, + PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216697E83BF + for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:53:20 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49361 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmJk5-0006VW-B2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:53:09 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmJjl-0006VR-2f + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmJjj-0006VF-Ha + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:47 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54392 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmJjj-0006VC-Cr + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:47 -0400 +Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.4.200]:56628) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KmJjj-000846-Bd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:47 -0400 +Received: from turki (ool-45704694.dyn.optonline.net [69.112.70.148]) + by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net + (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) + with ESMTP id <0K88007TMVZXUS30@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for + screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from gavron by turki with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) + id 1KmJiy-0004XQ-EI for screen-users@gnu.org; + Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:00 -0400 +Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:52:00 -0400 +From: Chris Jones +In-reply-to: <18071eea0810041337i4ddbee39pda3108ca7ec93e0@mail.gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Mail-followup-to: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-id: <20081005025200.GF19121@turki.gavron.org> +MIME-version: 1.0 +Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT +Content-disposition: inline +References: <48e39f41.030ad00a.0be3.0456SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <3D807F23-5FC3-4217-918C-C85CBCB2D424@gmail.com> + <48E3FFEC.2050503@cowan.name> + <99DDE341-8A29-4E86-913D-282E7549CC8C@gmail.com> + <48E50F1D.4030300@cowan.name> + <20081004185630.GC15208@turki.gavron.org> + <18071eea0810041337i4ddbee39pda3108ca7ec93e0@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 989 +Lines: 28 + +On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 04:37:56PM EDT, Thomas Adam wrote: +> 2008/10/4 Chris Jones : +> > Has anyone here taken a peek at David Douthitt's +> > +> > "GNU Screen A Comprehensive Introduction" +> +> Yes -- it's not that comprehensive, and reads like an annotated +> version of the screen users' manual. + +I guess whether it's worth the money all depends on the quality of the +annotations, then.. :-) + +As another poster stated, what's missing to jumpstart new users (in the +few hours/days before they give up) is a document that describes the +different things that you can do with screen and for each of them how +you set it up .. helping them build their .screenrc as they go along and +understanding what they're doing. + +I was hoping the book above took this approach but from what you're +saying, this is not not the case. + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Oct 5 08:48:47 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_DOB, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2F87E7CB6 + for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 08:48:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32886 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmT2K-0008BX-P2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:48:36 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmT1k-0008A3-Qo + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:48:01 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmT1h-00088t-Sb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:47:59 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57950 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmT1g-00088c-0k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:47:56 -0400 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.3.48]:59792) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KmT1f-0006uZ-Tn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:47:56 -0400 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de + [131.188.3.48]) by max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP id + BT-MMP-2854148 for screen-users@gnu.org; + Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:47:28 +0200 +Received: from max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de ([131.188.3.48]) + by max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [127.0.0.1]) + (amavisd-new) with ESMTP id 10754-01 for ; + Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:47:28 +0200 (MEST) +Received: from biochem.uni-erlangen.de (bioc01.biochem.uni-erlangen.de + [131.188.174.10]) by mailhub.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP id + BT-MMP-927484 for screen-users@gnu.org; + Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:47:28 +0200 +Received: from BIOCHEM2/SpoolDir by biochem.uni-erlangen.de (Mercury 1.48); + 5 Oct 08 14:47:28 +0100 +Received: from SpoolDir by BIOCHEM2 (Mercury 1.48); 5 Oct 08 14:47:09 +0100 +Received: from biochem.uni-erlangen.de (131.188.174.197) by + biochem.uni-erlangen.de (Mercury 1.48) with ESMTP; + 5 Oct 08 14:47:06 +0100 +Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:50:41 +0200 +From: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20081005125041.GV11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> + <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> + +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <48E400C3.7080806@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new (RRZE) on max81.rrze.uni-erlangen.de +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +Reply-To: holger.dinkel@gmail.com +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2956 +Lines: 71 + +Hi, + +first of all: +Thanks to all for the positive feedback! + +What became clear to me is that indeed it might be a tedious task to create a +full-fledged .screenrc that fits every user's needs. This is just impossible as +the tasks that screen is used for are diverse. + +But the most important point of this discussion is the reason that made me start +it: Screen lacks hints for the initial user. Like said, the screen-newbie is +greeted with a minimal welcome message about legal issues, whereas IMHO he +should be told e.g. the most important key commands... + +The second most important feature would be a reasonable caption line that +displays the list of screens and highlights the current one (as suggested by +Aaron Davies). + +The caption need not be too fancy, like +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + +caption always "%{rk}%H %{wk}%n %{gk}%c %{yk}%M%d %{wk}%?%-Lw%?%{bw}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%{wk}%?%+Lw%?" +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + +but it should present at least the screen titles. +So I propose a minimal configuration like this: +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + +caption always "%-Lw%{= W}%50>%n%f* %t%{-}%+Lw%<" +startup_message on +screen -t top 0 top +screen -t bash 1 +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + +The "top" window is created, so that the user can test the -, +functionality... + + +Additionally, the startup notification could also include the most important +key-bindings. Such as: +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + + Press - to switch to the last used screen window\n\ + Press - to create a new screen window\n\ + Press - to see a list of screen windows\n\ + Press - to see a short help page\n\ + \n\ + Also see the screen man page for extensive documentation\n\ +____________________________________________________________________________________________________ + + +PS: A good screencast would be a very good idea and a helful ressource. Right + now, I don't have the time to do it, but if someone can recommend a good + screenrecorder, I might look into this in a couple of months... + +PPS:I once gave a short introductory talk about screen to my colleagues, and + especially the reconnect feature was of interest to them. A couple of days + later, I saw one colleague running several instances of screen on the server so + that she could reconnect to several shell instances running batch jobs (instead + of using ONE screen instance with several windows ;-> ) + + +Best wishes, + +Holger Dinkel + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Oct 5 10:58:13 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_DOB, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,RCVD_IN_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3267F2336 + for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 10:58:12 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34527 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmV3a-0005nB-Un + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:58:02 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmV33-0005c7-Jk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:57:29 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmV32-0005bO-82 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:57:29 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39194 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmV31-0005bJ-Uk + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:57:28 -0400 +Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]:32610) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KmV31-0001my-RM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:57:28 -0400 +Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so953754nfi.26 + for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:in-reply-to + :references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer + :content-transfer-encoding; + bh=pqgFC2BjG31T1Tbf5MIATUDG5yGj+cwiAebKxe+cJ9M=; + b=iWIMLCdKrCn9K+njBko7W8GTVn22vbJD+peJhUdC0UZlZF8b5pm6ER1l9nxmVuGpfN + m9vAGHGGLh/g36Vk2leGoGSP/XgolQ42toYUr799RtqyQz1r0Dds5v8Z+OChPij7EYUF + +rrJYwCk5fK5KIIrStv0ipLOTn/sxZV1x9p3o= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id + :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; + b=k66yVltcNkF80KM6vACYs6rSliiH/c+hFdyg2DM1XZ/A5RqjNtFh9Ki7pITjmS9EpC + 6KVmxBhgI9K36NtC29bJIXS+J9jQ8nsU0J3fzPPeAihoxjTbOllhQBh6g7wV2zESqqRs + 8AOt71UbkZH8qph4NBPsOWvg4k4BSh/7Y9l6w= +Received: by 10.210.18.8 with SMTP id 8mr4707253ebr.189.1223218645289; + Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:57:25 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([80.217.5.188]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm29843090nfh.23.2008.10.05.07.57.22 + (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:57:23 -0700 (PDT) +From: peter holm +To: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <48E3C9EE.6090007@gmail.com> +References: <48E3C9EE.6090007@gmail.com> +Content-Type: text/plain +Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:57:20 +0200 +Message-Id: <1223218640.6325.0.camel@ubTop> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: sticky modifier keys +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 887 +Lines: 30 + +ons 2008-10-01 klockan 20:05 +0100 skrev William Pursell: +> I've recently started using sticky modifier keys +> (eg, touch and release modifier, then hit a key to +> get the modified key). KDE can be configured +> to do this, and I can use loadkeys on a console, +> but I recently was stuck on a console where I +> didn't have root and couldn't do loadkeys to +> set the modifiers to be sticky. +> +> Is there anyway to get this functionality with +> screen? +> + +May this be a solution to you.? + +http://tsdh.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/sticky-keys-save-my-hands-from-rsi/ +http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?s=1d9fce9ecb853fc3d777d11e63d8ee4c&showtopic=10404 + +I have just glanced the text, so please don't flame if it not suit your +needs. + +/Peter + + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Oct 5 18:54:08 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_DOB, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,PLING_QUERY,RCVD_IN_DOB autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBF4740C35 + for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:54:08 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43264 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmcU9-0007vF-8z + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:53:57 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmcTr-0007uo-Rg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:53:39 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmcTn-0007ps-H3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:53:38 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57087 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmcTn-0007pp-D7 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:53:35 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:44824 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KmcTn-0002GK-2w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:53:35 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmcTg-0001eh-0v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:53:28 +0000 +Received: from nat064.cyber.com.au ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:53:28 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by nat064.cyber.com.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 + (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:53:28 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:53:36 +1100 +Message-ID: <30od1yd573.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> + <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> + + <20081005125041.GV11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:Nr7hZ673EDa5zLCm1HkuSnwSghY= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 621 +Lines: 12 + +holger.dinkel@gmail.com writes: + +> The caption need not be too fancy, like +> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ +> +> caption always "%{rk}%H %{wk}%n %{gk}%c %{yk}%M%d %{wk}%?%-Lw%?%{bw}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%{wk}%?%+Lw%?" + + +Here's a thought: maybe the hardstatus could be on by default, but set +to a "quick help" string like nano has. E.g. + +hardstatus string '^Ac: new window ^An: next window ^Ad: disconnect' + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Oct 6 14:22:56 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,PLING_QUERY autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A1B7713BB + for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:22:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42290 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KmujG-0001rJ-4Z + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:22:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kmugm-0000k3-Ks + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:12 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kmugk-0000ga-D2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:12 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42519 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kmugk-0000gF-1g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:10 -0400 +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]:41214) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kmugj-0001Bk-9v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:09 -0400 +Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EBE14C8089 + for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:20:01 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]) + by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id 22716-16 for ; + Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:20:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from maneki-neko.metacarta.com (maneki-neko.metacarta.com + [208.80.142.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87C414C8086 + for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:20:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from eichin by maneki-neko.metacarta.com with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from ) id 1Kmuga-0006yr-IB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:00 -0400 +From: Mark Eichin +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <20080926084730.GA11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> + <48E221AD.9090207@harvee.org> + + <20081005125041.GV11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> +Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:20:00 -0400 +In-Reply-To: <20081005125041.GV11358@megaira.biochem.uni-erlangen.de> (holger + dinkel's message of "Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:50:41 +0200") +Message-ID: +User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Promote Screen? Include .screenrc! +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 874 +Lines: 21 + + + +> later, I saw one colleague running several instances of screen on the server so +> that she could reconnect to several shell instances running batch jobs (instead +> of using ONE screen instance with several windows ;-> ) + +Eh, for some applications, multiple windows is wrong - if you're going +to have to "screen -x" multiple connections to them anyway, it's +actually cleaner to be able to manage them with names and "screen +-ls". (This approach is particularly useful with, for example, a +"builder" account that runs autobuilders but different people may need +to check on...) + +That said, yes, windows are a more "advanced" feature than just +attach/detach... but that doesn't actually mean they're *necessary*. + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 10 22:25:33 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D427E771D + for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47750 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KoUAW-0006PL-Rq + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:24 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KoUAD-0006Nu-2A + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:05 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KoUAB-0006LO-EP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:04 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35852 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KoUAB-0006L8-5J + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:03 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:46520 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) + id 1KoUAA-0004wC-C8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:02 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KoUA3-0003PH-E9 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:24:55 +0000 +Received: from ppp59-167-65-160.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net ([59.167.65.160]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:24:55 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp59-167-65-160.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net with + local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:24:55 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:25:12 +1100 +Message-ID: <307i8fswaf.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp59-167-65-160.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:rWwiVrs1dfjaQDB8xf0jePNeI50= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Customizing hardcopy +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 702 +Lines: 18 + +"Jean-Baptiste Aviat" +writes: + +> Hello dears, +> +> I would like to be able to do harcopies in new files, in order to never overwrite any. Files could be named this way : +> - hardcopy_2008-10-10_at_12h59m01 +> - hardcopy_2008-10-10_at_12h59m05 +> - hardcopy_2008-10-10_at_13h01m37 +> - ... +> +> I'm trying to define a new shortcut in .screenrc like : +> +> bind g "screen -X hardcopy ./hardcopy_`date +%Y-%m-%d_at_%Hh%Mm%S`" + +Untested, but I think you want + + bind g exec sh -c 'screen -X hardcopy hardcopy_`date +%Y-%m-%d_at_%Hh%Mm%S`' + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Oct 13 23:46:20 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740897EE80E + for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:46:20 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39066 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KparJ-0000g6-UF + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:46:09 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpOAK-00013q-2g + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:12:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpOAI-000108-E6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:12:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44637 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KpOAI-0000zj-3O + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:12:54 -0400 +Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]:35315) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KpOAH-0005K9-Dt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:12:53 -0400 +Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so944483wah.26 + for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:12:52 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=I3DVcs6BMv57yUjB6X9GwCdQFkvNXZTo9Wabp65QTWE=; + b=bY+Rbb1tKF5WCB9T9KBLl/ljgNQLxM0OBpmWD3vjkosgk3LIwiXWUHJu6oq4ynAPNL + p+XCVa4oDDxvz0qoykiK3Mjgf0dwRkxwR5fLim5sz1qClDhf/D/9UEfhzAGAORZfH8m0 + S1bb4v+qHtF48dSpQ+yQh0k1pGgYgrswrspYo= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=qI9BSv4cC5vlf6NfCAKbTOMhxsg7fQ3XHOVUDHbtOUvkRHKd51FLUc1OzBKgEVRjVv + VuCOpCeRfQgCbJbFwxqd7WHAFB0j3TlmO9sHQln2Muv5pOIGJL98z/uuPANFTL966lUx + OQk55NiBb9DpGiq2DeqHqC6M0BZqzqXuywflQ= +Received: by 10.114.192.3 with SMTP id p3mr5269913waf.189.1223907172225; + Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:12:52 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.114.67.20 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:12:52 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:12:52 +0200 +From: "Sven Hazejager" +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:43:14 -0400 +Subject: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 678 +Lines: 25 + +Hi all, + +I'm using screen to keep some applications open over a remote SSH +connection that sometimes is killed. What I would like to do, is to +somehow find out whether I am logged in (attached) or disconnected +from the screen session. + +Reason is that I want procmail to send incoming mail to my BlackBerry +if I'm disconnected, but NOT do that when I'm SSH-ing into my Pine +session. + +Using ps to see if Pine is active doesn't work of course, because it +always runs, even when screen is detached... + +Any suggestions? + +Thanks! + +Sven + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 00:12:15 2008 +Return-Path: +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2745B7E9E5F + for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:12:15 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47344 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpbGQ-0005Gi-96 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:12:06 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpbG9-0005Gb-IF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:11:49 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpbG8-0005GP-4l + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:11:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34775 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KpbG7-0005GM-Uh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:11:47 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.247]:45190) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from ) id 1KpbG7-0004Aj-LE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:11:47 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so2286330rvb.6 + for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:11:46 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=JWdLINoE+9tB88Fy3uW1jRTOdGjkzRpGIsZztVBDIfo=; + b=uQiRu6KJEy9EbLt86wkXRIt0uA21dMX5FcOQTQ39mbkNjAr+5PeMLOseMnJozPK2NC + WVlAE40nsHFXoYRiu2I9FVeFAsXGKpmyWALejNffPcpZRLfgzoIb9wyWXIwOtN08xTni + f+MZnSAcb0YRgHwbNmO+INSI+KA/0ZrgVEhoU= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=FtZd7p/T4MtolCrMvRnQkSSub44ayvQcpV77ghJInlBbz7u10L1+B9N/lUztfNzuND + u25C2id9Q5e5MaoU6jJ25Q/a6f4CbUYFLYU52w5ZALv2UjE8HatWHHRWYJY5QlRTAmRJ + nIUdT/kt3e+/YqONsN1FkC3q/X4Pqht53iuQs= +Received: by 10.141.45.16 with SMTP id x16mr4474698rvj.34.1223957506301; + Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:11:46 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.178.12 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:11:46 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:11:46 +0800 +From: "Aaron Davies" +To: "Screen Users" +In-Reply-To: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: + +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: branching in screenrc? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2150 +Lines: 64 + +finally got round to trying this, and i'm having some problems + +it's reading the file, and i can see the connections come up, but they +disappear after a second or two + +the commands in the box-specific .screenrc file are just ordinary +"screen" commands of the general form "screen -t ssh <host>", +and they all work fine when type/pasted directly into the shell + +:source'ing the file has the same effect tho--they come up for a sec, +then go down + +ideas? + +On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Tom Scogland <njustn@gmail.com> wrote: +> Including is how I do this, in fact the following is from my screenrc. +> source ${HOME}/.screenrc-${TERM} +> +> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Aaron Davies <aaron.davies@gmail.com> wrote: +>> +>> any support for any "if" branching in screenrc's? i two windows boxes +>> using a common (network-based) homedir, and i want screen to start two +>> completely different sets of ssh sessions depending on which box it's +>> executed on. i suppose i can allias screen to "screen -c +>> .screenrc.`hostname` or something, but a.) that's clumsy and b.) it +>> doesn't easily handle any common settings between the two. hmm. can +>> screenrc's include other files? can it be read from stdin? ("screen -c +>> -" or "screen -c /dev/stdin" or something?) then i could say "cat +>> .screenrc .screenrc.`hostname` | screen -c -". or maybe there's some +>> other way to just do the actual variant part (create various +>> screens)--execute a shell script or something, and let that handle the +>> branching. thoughts? +>> -- +>> Aaron Davies +>> aaron.davies@gmail.com +>> +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> +> +> +> -- +> -N +> AKA:Tom Scogland +> I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +> more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. 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Buck) +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:32:10 +1100 +Message-ID: <30ej2jssol.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <cbdeb7680810130712q4561a65cm9a040b63c0fc56d8@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:ilUqLyccCznlU3Jlk5nmYyjaQp0= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 797 +Lines: 15 + +"Sven Hazejager" +<sven.hazejager@gmail.com> writes: + +> I'm using screen to keep some applications open over a remote SSH +> connection that sometimes is killed. What I would like to do, is to +> somehow find out whether I am logged in (attached) or disconnected +> from the screen session. +> +> Reason is that I want procmail to send incoming mail to my BlackBerry +> if I'm disconnected, but NOT do that when I'm SSH-ing into my Pine +> session. + +I don't know how to achieve that, but perhaps there's a different +approach to the problem -- such as always forwarding all mail to an IMAP +server that you can access from both the blackberry and from pine. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 01:43:48 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540197D8FF9 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:43:48 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50522 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kpch0-0008Kx-T7 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:43:39 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpcgQ-0008IX-V8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:43:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpcgL-0008BW-6B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:43:01 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52268 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KpcgL-0008BF-0Z + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:42:57 -0400 +Received: from mail-out2.uio.no ([129.240.10.58]:44875) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpcGC-0003Lf-Vg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:15:57 -0400 +Received: from mail-mx6.uio.no ([129.240.10.47]) + by mail-out2.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpcG6-00081F-Pf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:15:50 +0200 +Received: from anakin.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.199]) + by mail-mx6.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpcG6-0001Uz-K2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:15:50 +0200 +Received: from peder (helo=localhost) + by anakin.ifi.uio.no with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) + id 1KpcG6-0007Kb-Bj; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:15:50 +0200 +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:15:50 +0200 (CEST) +From: Peder Stray <peder+screen@ifi.uio.no> +X-X-Sender: peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no +To: Screen Users <screen-users@gnu.org> +cc: screen-users@gnu.org +In-Reply-To: <30ej2jssol.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0810140703480.5109@anakin.ifi.uio.no> +References: <cbdeb7680810130712q4561a65cm9a040b63c0fc56d8@mail.gmail.com> + <30ej2jssol.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, + autolearn=disabled, MISSING_SUBJECT=0.001, NO_RECEIVED=-0.001, + UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) +X-UiO-Scanned: 061730485AC8B6D240CF6FC40EA4B93F4C6E1667 +X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.64.199 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 200 + minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 3 total 5591 max/h 104 blacklist 0 + greylist 0 ratelimit 0 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1373 +Lines: 44 + +On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: + +> "Sven Hazejager" +> <sven.hazejager@gmail.com> writes: +> +>> I'm using screen to keep some applications open over a remote SSH +>> connection that sometimes is killed. What I would like to do, is to +>> somehow find out whether I am logged in (attached) or disconnected +>> from the screen session. +>> +>> Reason is that I want procmail to send incoming mail to my BlackBerry +>> if I'm disconnected, but NOT do that when I'm SSH-ing into my Pine +>> session. +> +> I don't know how to achieve that, but perhaps there's a different +> approach to the problem -- such as always forwarding all mail to an IMAP +> server that you can access from both the blackberry and from pine. + +The screen-socket has execute permissions when attached, and none when +detached, like this: + +attached: + +ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +prwx------ 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 00:00 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc + +detached: +ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +prw------- 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 07:06 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc + +Guess you can test for that i procmail by something like: + +:0c +*? perl -e 'exit ! grep { (stat $_)[2] & 0100 } </tmp/uscreens/S-peder/*>' +!foobar@example.com + +-- + Peder Stray + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 11:41:53 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1FD7F5ABC + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50495 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kpm1l-0005eR-V5 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:41 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kpm1C-0005V3-6p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:06 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kpm1A-0005Te-Us + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:05 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60506 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kpm1A-0005TS-Na + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:04 -0400 +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]:59529) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <eichin@metacarta.com>) id 1Kpm19-0003Mn-QT + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:04 -0400 +Received: from localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C22D14C80A1 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:01 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from silene.metacarta.com ([208.80.142.18]) + by localhost (silene.metacarta.com [208.80.142.18]) (amavisd-new, + port 10024) with ESMTP id 26064-07 for <screen-users@gnu.org>; + Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from maneki-neko.metacarta.com (maneki-neko.metacarta.com + [208.80.142.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by silene.metacarta.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6DF14C80A0 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from eichin by maneki-neko.metacarta.com with local (Exim 4.63) + (envelope-from <eichin@metacarta.com>) id 1Kpm16-0000P6-BX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:00 -0400 +From: Mark Eichin <eichin@metacarta.com> +To: Screen Users <screen-users@gnu.org> +References: <cbdeb7680810130712q4561a65cm9a040b63c0fc56d8@mail.gmail.com> + <30ej2jssol.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> + <alpine.LRH.2.00.0810140703480.5109@anakin.ifi.uio.no> +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:00 -0400 +In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0810140703480.5109@anakin.ifi.uio.no> (Peder + Stray's message of "Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:15:50 +0200 (CEST)") +Message-ID: <s9xzll7b2wj.fsf@maneki-neko.metacarta.com> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at metacarta.com +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1853 +Lines: 55 + +Peder Stray <peder+screen@ifi.uio.no> writes: + +> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: +> +>> "Sven Hazejager" +>> <sven.hazejager@gmail.com> writes: +>> +>>> I'm using screen to keep some applications open over a remote SSH +>>> connection that sometimes is killed. What I would like to do, is to +>>> somehow find out whether I am logged in (attached) or disconnected +>>> from the screen session. +>>> +>>> Reason is that I want procmail to send incoming mail to my BlackBerry +>>> if I'm disconnected, but NOT do that when I'm SSH-ing into my Pine +>>> session. +>> +>> I don't know how to achieve that, but perhaps there's a different +>> approach to the problem -- such as always forwarding all mail to an +>> IMAP server that you can access from both the blackberry and from +>> pine. +> +> The screen-socket has execute permissions when attached, and none when +> detached, like this: +> +> attached: +> +> ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +> prwx------ 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 00:00 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +> +> detached: +> ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +> prw------- 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 07:06 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +> +> Guess you can test for that i procmail by something like: +> +> :0c +> *? perl -e 'exit ! grep { (stat $_)[2] & 0100 } </tmp/uscreens/S-peder/*>' +> !foobar@example.com + +Parsing "screen -ls" output (for "Attached" or not) might be less +sensitive to implementation details, but that's a pretty clever test... + +I'm not familiar with procmail, but it might be cleaner to use + + ! test -x /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/* + +(to avoid starting perl on every message - I think both of these +assume there's only one socket that matches the rule, though it's +pretty easy to change if not...) + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Oct 14 16:32:43 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328887F5B5C + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:32:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58574 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpqZB-0002Bk-KK + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:32:29 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpqX6-0000Dm-Ab + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:30:20 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KpqX3-0000Aa-9Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:30:19 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38414 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KpqX3-0000AK-3w + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:30:17 -0400 +Received: from mail-out2.uio.no ([129.240.10.58]:34563) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpqX2-0000BV-Hh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:30:16 -0400 +Received: from mail-mx1.uio.no ([129.240.10.29]) + by mail-out2.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpqX0-0000nC-MW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:30:14 +0200 +Received: from anakin.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.199]) + by mail-mx1.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no>) id 1KpqX0-0006pk-Hp + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:30:14 +0200 +Received: from peder (helo=localhost) + by anakin.ifi.uio.no with local-esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1KpqX0-0007BA-CE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:30:14 +0200 +Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:30:14 +0200 (CEST) +From: Peder Stray <peder+screen@ifi.uio.no> +X-X-Sender: peder@anakin.ifi.uio.no +To: Screen Users <screen-users@gnu.org> +In-Reply-To: <s9xzll7b2wj.fsf@maneki-neko.metacarta.com> +Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.0810142220550.5109@anakin.ifi.uio.no> +References: <cbdeb7680810130712q4561a65cm9a040b63c0fc56d8@mail.gmail.com> + <30ej2jssol.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> + <alpine.LRH.2.00.0810140703480.5109@anakin.ifi.uio.no> + <s9xzll7b2wj.fsf@maneki-neko.metacarta.com> +User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed +X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, + autolearn=disabled, MISSING_SUBJECT=0.001, NO_RECEIVED=-0.001, + UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) +X-UiO-Scanned: 6FF5D48548BAF4793F5E85E12C39D462449D324E +X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.64.199 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 200 + minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 2 total 5621 max/h 104 blacklist 0 + greylist 0 ratelimit 0 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +Subject: Re: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2783 +Lines: 74 + +On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Mark Eichin wrote: + +> Peder Stray <peder+screen@ifi.uio.no> writes: +> +>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: +>> +>>> "Sven Hazejager" +>>> <sven.hazejager@gmail.com> writes: +>>> +>>>> I'm using screen to keep some applications open over a remote SSH +>>>> connection that sometimes is killed. What I would like to do, is to +>>>> somehow find out whether I am logged in (attached) or disconnected +>>>> from the screen session. +>>>> +>>>> Reason is that I want procmail to send incoming mail to my BlackBerry +>>>> if I'm disconnected, but NOT do that when I'm SSH-ing into my Pine +>>>> session. +>>> +>>> I don't know how to achieve that, but perhaps there's a different +>>> approach to the problem -- such as always forwarding all mail to an +>>> IMAP server that you can access from both the blackberry and from +>>> pine. +>> +>> The screen-socket has execute permissions when attached, and none when +>> detached, like this: +>> +>> attached: +>> +>> ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +>> prwx------ 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 00:00 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +>> +>> detached: +>> ls -l /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +>> prw------- 1 peder peder 0 Oct 14 07:06 /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/4598.irc +>> +>> Guess you can test for that i procmail by something like: +>> +>> :0c +>> *? perl -e 'exit ! grep { (stat $_)[2] & 0100 } </tmp/uscreens/S-peder/*>' +>> !foobar@example.com +> +> Parsing "screen -ls" output (for "Attached" or not) might be less +> sensitive to implementation details, but that's a pretty clever test... +> +> I'm not familiar with procmail, but it might be cleaner to use +> +> ! test -x /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/* +> +> (to avoid starting perl on every message - I think both of these assume +> there's only one socket that matches the rule, though it's pretty easy +> to change if not...) + +True, perl is bigger than test, but i guess you mailserver should be real +slow for you to actually notice :) The perl test actually checks for any +attaced screen, so it should work for cases where there is more than one +socket in the dir. Using the test-line as above would break violently in +that case since it expect only one argument. Parsing the output from +screen -ls would of course be even more expensive that either perl or +test. + +Of course, all of this expects that screens tmp-dir is available on the +mailserver, which it may not be. In that case, it may be easier to make a +wrapper for screen that touches a statusfile before starting screen and +maybe doing the perl-test after and remove the file if no screens are +attached (so you actually can attached more than once to the screen) + +-- + Peder Stray + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 15 04:26:37 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24647F6506 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:36 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38682 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kq1i5-0005zh-EH + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:25 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kq1hj-0005xn-0v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:03 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kq1hh-0005xA-Dc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:02 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37926 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kq1hh-0005x4-24 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:01 -0400 +Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.177]:34029) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <sven.hazejager@gmail.com>) id 1Kq1hg-0003HP-Vz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:26:01 -0400 +Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so1538587wah.26 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=JQeJ2sgJhxhZt7rz+96vBaNOeOup4LiHZX7v0sFqb8c=; + b=d+z75QsmCKFmFspnhyJgC6Er25afkqSYVWgXTn0vh6Hu+e9Dx0dxZ4NTH8oL0i3e9u + bZXnxXls5DNTFGdEPjsgNnQX3tImUu1y/5KzI3nURn0v6XBHmYLoJ6/zWqini/fg5oSW + dCiogBUDpLCRGeS4+RWEDHC5CG1JuFUj8RZVs= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=HWOdqH8/cc1W7jZ+I2ehTwnNQLq9zJ8ioMVmF7B4m0n/+NwstFs8lYK9D2Td67TIXQ + bBshq6+jKE7dQ6N7orLh/lWyGb5OoMJkjrZlUWnb7D4yI9q6cnnmkq7OMqA2WPlkwrkV + kRpHFbh7WeCmPirHk+kD1H9G0sHvjAbEX4YGQ= +Received: by 10.114.24.5 with SMTP id 5mr481053wax.160.1224059158592; + Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.114.67.20 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <cbdeb7680810150125yb4ad447te0f89c063b309f60@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:25:58 +0200 +From: "Sven Hazejager" <sven.hazejager@gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Subject: Re: Detect whether attached or detached from screen session? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 454 +Lines: 18 + +> I'm not familiar with procmail, but it might be cleaner to use +> +> ! test -x /tmp/uscreens/S-peder/* + +Thanks to all for the great suggestions! For the record, here's the +full procmail recipe that I'm now using: + +:0c +* ? test ! -x /tmp/screens/S-sven/* +!sven@blackberry.mail + +It's working great, cheers! + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Oct 18 02:51:46 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211FF7FAD31 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:46 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53683 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kr5ez-0001Fc-L8 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:37 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kr5ec-0001CN-Rb + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:14 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kr5ea-00018B-AQ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:13 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38379 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kr5ea-00017v-4e + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:12 -0400 +Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:64984) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1Kr5ea-0006gN-Cs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:12 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) id 1Kr5eY-0007mR-4E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:51:10 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kr5eU-0005b3-R3 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:51:06 +0000 +Received: from ppp118-208-197-252.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net + ([118.208.197.252]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:51:06 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-208-197-252.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net + with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:51:06 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:51:34 +1100 +Message-ID: <30bpxiiefd.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <7C11DC8E5E8EFC45B9D6CB07CE796B6BF0B472@DL-MAIL.uel.ac.uk> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-208-197-252.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:eubfK9YSwwqO1RIrkMPXrLtzPAM= +X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Operation +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 950 +Lines: 17 + +"Tony Bernard" <J.A.Bernard@uel.ac.uk> +writes: + +> I am a technician working for a University and have developed a VB6 +> program which controls a projector on a weekly basis. It takes room +> booking information and activates the device accordingly via a pc. My +> current problem is that I wish to log out and leave the program +> running in the back ground, irrespective of who is logged on to the +> controlling computer. Having done some research on the internet I cam +> across info on GNU Screen and thought this may be the answer to my +> problems - will you please confirm this. + +What operating system are you using? + +If your utility talks to stdio or a tty, sure. But I suspect that your +"VB6" means "I'm on Windows, and it's a GUI". In which case it may +work, but I'm not interested in helping. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 22 00:30:55 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEBA7F95AB + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:30:54 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57088 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsVMr-00046h-W9 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:30:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsNyx-0004w9-PH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:37:35 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsNyv-0004vj-Dm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:37:34 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39234 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsNyv-0004vf-Am + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:37:33 -0400 +Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]:26326) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <nils.schlupp@gmail.com>) id 1KsNyu-0006FA-0c + for screen-users@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:37:33 -0400 +Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so1216725nfi.26 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:37:28 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type; + bh=rAvXnzbs/D6xPHnj5ExDmX6c0lp7fZx5d+jaMkh3nlk=; + b=PzVUcDZsZDB9qGwQy3Bt87BX5xL/wFibZOdDovsErVBaQynUpHythgQQRZ+mSuaVUk + ONoij8H/yFsX7PKWyK5NgJq9jT1Uufb9N1tA/BKGmindXvf6ZzMSc/7xIls4ByTSSR0u + WKqav5EEPxSViO9z9oIOrTduQ4DlWUq4tBME4= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; + b=MStnXIx+MISq6fwFMEnIhA2XuSmxTdHAnupezeA5s9i5BbNhkWOWVIuNNKo07NrCFW + J43uzW0QA4oeVypGDIZ/WwvZtOJkUFhYKKERGZzki8son6Z8cjTZ0YjxXSIdfGRCYL1u + zL16foNhpoifQostXHXyV3cNhkuSwebH8c0hw= +Received: by 10.103.229.19 with SMTP id g19mr4715907mur.19.1224621448365; + Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:37:28 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.103.141.5 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:37:28 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <e584d3a60810211337o4446bdeard3542fb1426d00dc@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:37:28 -0500 +From: Nils <nils.schlupp@gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:28:49 -0400 +Subject: auto connect to screen and open a new shell? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1158656406==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1672 +Lines: 46 + +--===============1158656406== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_9253_1047391.1224621448361" + +------=_Part_9253_1047391.1224621448361 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hey guys. +I am trying to get this working: +i open op a new terminal, which the opens my shell (zsh). I want the zsh to +check if it is already inside of a screen session, and if it is not, to +connect to one, and open a new shell in there. +essentially i would like i to do a screen -x, C-a c. I check if i am inside +a shell with the STY variable, but i have not found a good way to connect +while creating a new shell + +Thanks, +Nils + +------=_Part_9253_1047391.1224621448361 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Hey guys.<br>I am trying to get this working:<br>i open op a new terminal, which the opens my shell (zsh). I want the zsh to check if it is already inside of a screen session, and if it is not, to connect to one, and open a new shell in there.<br> +essentially i would like i to do a screen -x, C-a c. I check if i am inside a shell with the STY variable, but i have not found a good way to connect while creating a new shell<br><br>Thanks,<br>Nils<br> + +------=_Part_9253_1047391.1224621448361-- + + + +--===============1158656406== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1158656406==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 22 00:40:57 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD957F9732 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:55 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45861 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsVWV-0006Mu-K0 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:44 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsVW6-0006Ma-Jq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:18 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsVW2-0006Lm-Bw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:17 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43137 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsVW2-0006Lj-5n + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:14 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:56871 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1KsVW1-0004ig-6i + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:40:13 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsVVk-0007JT-S2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:39:56 +0000 +Received: from nat064.cyber.com.au ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:39:56 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by nat064.cyber.com.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 + (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:39:56 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:40:28 +1100 +Message-ID: <3063nlmedf.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <e584d3a60810211337o4446bdeard3542fb1426d00dc@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:Clo9+3TBbCERVpixS3s+6jdu+Oo= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: auto connect to screen and open a new shell? +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2583 +Lines: 57 + +Nils <nils.schlupp@gmail.com> writes: + +> i open op a new terminal, which the opens my shell (zsh). I want the +> zsh to check if it is already inside of a screen session, and if it is +> not, to connect to one, and open a new shell in there. + +I have almost that for sh: + + ### ~/.profile: sourced by bourne-compatible login shells. + ### If ~/.bash_profile exists, this will NOT be read by bash! + ### SUS bookmark: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/ + + # [unrelated code elided.] + + ## The naive "chsh -s /usr/bin/screen" breaks scp (and other things). + ## Have sh start screen automatically "when appropriate". That is, + ## 1) not in a screen window (STY); + ## 2) stdin is a tty; + ## 3) screen is installed; and + ## 4) terminal is capable of displaying screen. + ## Replace "$STY" with "$STY$SSH_CLIENT$SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND" to avoid + ## nesting screens when sshing (untested). + test -z "$STY" -a -t 0 && + { type screen && tput clear && tput cup && ! tput hc && ! tput os + } 2>/dev/null >&2 && # ignore boring, expected error messages + { + ## Set the window title to the host name. + ## Note that using echo -e \e for ^[ is not portable. + type uname >/dev/null 2>&1 && + test -n "${HOSTNAME:=`uname -n`}" && + case "$TERM" in + screen*) printf %bk%s%b%b \\033 "${HOSTNAME%%.*}" \\033 \\0134;; + esac + ## If new session, start agents. + screen -ls | grep -i 'No Sockets found' >/dev/null 2>&1 && + eval "$(twb-agents)" + ## Start screen. + exec screen -DRR + } + + ## If execution reaches this point, screen isn't the login shell. In + ## that case, if this is a bash shell, it's a good idea to do the + ## bashisms in .bashrc. + test -n "$BASH" && + test -f ~/.bashrc && + . ~/.bashrc + +> essentially i would like i to do a screen -x, C-a c. I check if i am +> inside a shell with the STY variable, but i have not found a good way +> to connect while creating a new shell + +I'm not sure if you can do exactly that. I suppose it depends if you're +starting xterm from within the screen session, or from some other X +client. When STY is set you can just do "screen foo" and it'll pop up a +new window running foo inside the screen session. Otherwise you might +be able to do something like "screen -X screen && screen -xRR" to first +start a new window, *then* connect to the session. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Wed Oct 22 23:57:19 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE1F7FA413 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:57:19 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36218 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsrJs-0001iv-Lv + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:57:08 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsnkO-00086t-SK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:16 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsnkN-00085t-5B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:16 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38879 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsnkN-00085q-1u + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:15 -0400 +Received: from bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.216]:9552) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <s_atiany@hotmail.com>) id 1KsnkN-0001At-6Q + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:15 -0400 +Received: from BAY102-W26 ([64.4.61.126]) by bay0-omc3-s16.bay0.hotmail.com + with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); + Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:08:09 -0700 +Message-ID: <BAY102-W2649EB7343F4FB6C29AAC2E9280@phx.gbl> +X-Originating-IP: [38.117.159.162] +From: Samer Atiani <s_atiany@hotmail.com> +To: <screen-users@gnu.org> +Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:08:09 -0400 +Importance: Normal +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2008 00:08:10.0018 (UTC) + FILETIME=[6ECF9020:01C934A3] +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:56:50 -0400 +Subject: Screen and 256 Colors, again :) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +X-Status: A +Content-Length: 1145 +Lines: 38 + + +Hello=2C + +I'm trying to get screen working properly with 256 colors (mostly so I can = +utilize my favorite VIM colorschemes)=2C and so far I've done this successf= +ully except that I've lost the ability to display bright/bold colors on the= + screen. + +I've configured my screenrc like this: + +attrcolor b ".I" +termcapinfo xterm 'Co#256:AB=3D\E[48=3B5=3B%p1%dm:AF=3D\E[38=3B5=3B%p1%dm' +defbce "on" + +An example of my problem: When I do 'ls' outside of screen=2C it would prin= +t each directory in a bright blue color. I ran 'script' and then ls=2C and = +here is an example of how it would output a directory called "etc": + +^[[01=3B34metc^[[00m + +Inside of screen=2C that same directory would be output like this: + +^[[1m^[[38=3B5=3B4m^[[94metc^[[0m + +How do I fix that? I notice if I screen did not print the leading ^[[1m (i.= +e. just ^[[38=3B5=3B4m^[[94metc^[[0m) then highlighting would work ok. + +I'm using the GNU screen supplied with ubuntu hardy heron 8.10 on a 32 bit = +computer. + +Thanks! +Samer= + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 23 00:12:11 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE687FA0FC + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:12:10 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50200 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsrYG-0008WC-Fu + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:12:00 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsrXy-0008Uo-BN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:42 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsrXu-0008SK-UG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45206 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KsrXu-0008SH-RP + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:38 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:54723 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1KsrXu-0001qv-AS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:11:38 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KsrXk-0006jo-F5 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:11:28 +0000 +Received: from nat064.cyber.com.au ([203.7.155.64]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:11:28 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by nat064.cyber.com.au with local (Gmexim 0.1 + (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:11:28 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:12:01 +1100 +Message-ID: <30k5c0gdbi.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <BAY102-W2649EB7343F4FB6C29AAC2E9280@phx.gbl> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nat064.cyber.com.au +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:RH1ot712L11uX62YpJVSgFirpqs= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Screen and 256 Colors, again :) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 360 +Lines: 7 + +Samer Atiani <s_atiany@hotmail.com> writes: + +> I'm using the GNU screen supplied with ubuntu hardy heron 8.10 on a 32 +> bit computer. + +Ubuntu 8.04 has the codename Hardy. Ubuntu 8.10 has the codename +Intrepid. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 23 14:56:48 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4487FB532 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:47 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54850 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kt5MM-00019x-UE + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:38 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kt5M1-00017x-0G + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:17 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kt5Lv-000179-EF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:16 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34381 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt5Lv-000176-8j + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:11 -0400 +Received: from dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com ([216.158.3.70]:40257) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>) + id 1Kt5Lv-0003TV-5H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:11 -0400 +Received: from [207.245.124.125] (port=56515 helo=worlock.plastic-idolatry.com) + by dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.50) + id 1Kt5Lq-0008KZ-Lt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:06 -0400 +Received: by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix, from userid 1014) + id 8F2BC7FB624; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) +Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:56:12 -0400 +From: Erik Osheim <erik@plastic-idolatry.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20081023185612.GA11144@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com> +References: <BAY102-W2649EB7343F4FB6C29AAC2E9280@phx.gbl> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W2649EB7343F4FB6C29AAC2E9280@phx.gbl> +X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes +X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 207.245.124.125 +X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on dirtybill.solutionsforprogress.com); + SAEximRunCond expanded to false +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 +Subject: Re: Screen and 256 Colors, again :) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1156 +Lines: 32 + +On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 08:08:09PM -0400, Samer Atiani wrote: +> An example of my problem: When I do 'ls' outside of screen, it would print each directory in a bright blue color. I ran 'script' and then ls, and here is an example of how it would output a directory called "etc": +> +> ^[[01;34metc^[[00m +> +> Inside of screen, that same directory would be output like this: +> +> ^[[1m^[[38;5;4m^[[94metc^[[0m + +You forgot to specify what terminal emulator (or terminal) you are +using. From my xterm, those two sequences display identically. + +As I understand it, the "^[[1m" part should turn bold on until it is +turned off later by "^[[0m". Your terminal emulator may not correctly +be combining the various state-changes that the three initial escape +sequences specify. + +I tested this from bash via: + +printf "\033[01;34mfoo\n\033[00m" +printf "\033[1m\033[38;5;4m\033[94mfoo\n\033[0m" + +It worked correctly inside of screen (attached to xterm). Screen's TERM +is 'screen-bce', and xterm's TERM is 'xterm'. + +-- Erik + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 09:13:34 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D332F7FBF16 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:13:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43320 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtMTh-0002M1-5X + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:13:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtCow-0000Wn-Bh + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:38 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtCou-0000Uo-Gd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:37 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49777 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtCou-0000UZ-3B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:36 -0400 +Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.7]:49487) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) id 1KtCot-0000Ve-Us + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:36 -0400 +Received: (qmail 4705 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 02:54:31 -0000 +Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) + (envelope-sender <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted + SMTP for <screen-users@gnu.org>; 24 Oct 2008 02:54:30 -0000 +Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) id 1KtCon-0006vx-0C + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:54:29 -0700 +Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:54:28 -0700 +From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Message-ID: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:12:45 -0400 +Subject: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 768 +Lines: 24 + + +I'm playing around with vertical split. I'm using Screen version +4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian. + +When I have vertical split on, less is slow. *Really* slow. So is +more. vim is OK. When I say "slow", I mean that when I say "less +file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first screenful of +data up. + +Any idea what's up? + +-Robin + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 09:27:06 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578E77FC56B + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:27:06 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37367 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtMgq-0007au-UF + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:57 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtMgX-0007aN-6y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:37 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtMgV-0007a5-Js + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:36 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46857 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtMgV-0007a2-91 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:35 -0400 +Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]:38133) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <thomas.adam22@gmail.com>) id 1KtMgV-0002BO-5E + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:35 -0400 +Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so406311nfi.26 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:26:31 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=GN7jEaHbVe16vHHMZ3q3Diyl+sdm+e/c0+JlgeMs+1Y=; + b=hmVkp+MHFSMkIS1s9F/nXpDU/hsEBLU6pdSROYX4QubF9urfHweDn0toGMlIfJAm1P + 2pyZzorKxxhV91GaoouY7KwgKKLMSSPhfyU0Df0tsuQlZNvqSIKrpA2WZ8QYzhFiqy0D + If8e1Knrrcza2p8eaEtsImSDnKzLzLow7++7Y= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=TLprNfoQJJxkGnraVxHLLEvfv6CnwUM1Ms3DFeNlWsQacQ/tjwWaI/4pSvwz5JaN1l + k2rFeKRTAzFhtEXRXy0f+qJyAQ5nlCatF1kEUedOiFjOsuWlsV/prjkFVPkxPvc+attm + ydGZEuiKeclGjaeDH9W0tzL7Twrp+TEVboeaQ= +Received: by 10.103.251.3 with SMTP id d3mr1027068mus.73.1224854790952; + Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.103.182.8 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:26:30 +0100 +From: "Thomas Adam" <thomas.adam22@gmail.com> +To: "Robin Lee Powell" <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +In-Reply-To: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 712 +Lines: 24 + +Hello -- + +2008/10/24 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>: +> +> I'm playing around with vertical split. I'm using Screen version +> 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian. +> +> When I have vertical split on, less is slow. *Really* slow. So is +> more. vim is OK. When I say "slow", I mean that when I say "less +> file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first screenful of +> data up. +> +> Any idea what's up? + +It's a known caveat of vertical splits in screen. Screen has to +continually redraw the region and so that slows things down. + +-- Thomas Adam + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 14:34:57 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B6A7F7FA2 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:56 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53727 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtRUk-0001s0-Sn + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtRUP-0001qA-9B + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:25 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtRUL-0001lt-TC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:24 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53292 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtRUL-0001lo-Pn + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:21 -0400 +Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.8]:51656) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) id 1KtRUL-0006gG-ES + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:34:21 -0400 +Received: (qmail 21770 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 18:34:18 -0000 +Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) + (envelope-sender <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted + SMTP for <thomas.adam22@gmail.com>; 24 Oct 2008 18:34:18 -0000 +Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + id 1KtRUG-0004gG-IO; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:34:16 -0700 +Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:34:16 -0700 +From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +To: Thomas Adam <thomas.adam22@gmail.com> +Message-ID: <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> + <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1882 +Lines: 55 + +On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> Hello -- +> +> 2008/10/24 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>: +> > +> > I'm playing around with vertical split. I'm using Screen +> > version 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian. +> > +> > When I have vertical split on, less is slow. *Really* slow. So +> > is more. vim is OK. When I say "slow", I mean that when I say +> > "less file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first +> > screenful of data up. +> > +> > Any idea what's up? +> +> It's a known caveat of vertical splits in screen. Screen has to +> continually redraw the region and so that slows things down. + +I had a giant post written about how vertical splits in emacs and +vim are quite fast, and how running vim under a vertical split in +screen is also snappy, as opposed to running less, so there *must* +be a problem somewhere... + +And then I realized that when you page down in vim, it redraws its +display area once. When you page down in less, it redraws line by +line. + +-_- + +Holding down j in vim to make it redraw line by line makes +everything just as slow as less. + +So. + +Can anyone reccomend a less (ha!) stupid pager? more does the same +thing, and I can't view man pages like this. + +less -c mostly does the trick... Except that the initial screen +clear to put the cursor at the top line is done the slow way, and +hence takes ~30 seconds. "clear ; less -c [file]" works, but I'd +love a better suggestion. + +-Robin + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 15:26:57 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842F57FAD94 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:56 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35780 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSJ4-0006Zc-IS + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSIi-0006Yc-1p + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:24 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSIe-0006W6-AI + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45276 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtSIe-0006Vz-2F + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:20 -0400 +Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.240]:31854) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <njustn@gmail.com>) id 1KtSIc-0005M6-Lz + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:19 -0400 +Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1183659rvb.6 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:26:15 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; + bh=LdKwaffsNQ4v9Ergk+r7aLSVET4HQvpNBTx413YkQng=; + b=qnQl/cmytqOWmiVtcYYKdOlDqmCSwjH9WYvL+nv+CzqCb8hkYQPiBfqQ7Ai99rPHy1 + 26Ed0M9VmAdhDLNojJ8Mf7mjIz7OhxcchwDxqFcgvpZ6kwCAQWzeTSbJ0FtCb08OsbIP + Xcaps2IrUKYBF8k7FaHxjq34mvKUvP0NdLq9g= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:references; + b=bNSoP9O4D+Iesl47dF1GFzRu42VSrG7ql14cvRc0qBcphIRVvg/iN+jbF04MTLZgwO + xDfOz4nNZu5ZgSSqH/CjUlZeJE6xOATI5QVBgQZwZV4hcMirAYZvDbAuaWtiDoW7aBys + RXIakg1+i5dEpKNAEINvppxmHqiAJvF390vZ8= +Received: by 10.140.166.21 with SMTP id o21mr1400640rve.254.1224876374932; + Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:26:14 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.141.202.7 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:26:14 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <b0bad2450810241226y37010506y9f7950bf02d2b191@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:26:14 -0400 +From: "Tom Scogland" <njustn@gmail.com> +To: "Robin Lee Powell" <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +In-Reply-To: <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> + <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> + <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0892225959==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 7273 +Lines: 168 + +--===============0892225959== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_58878_2343586.1224876374935" + +------=_Part_58878_2343586.1224876374935 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Actually I use vim for that these days. I have an alias that starts vim and +runs ":Man <arguments>" whenever I run man. That means it works nice and +fast, and I get nicely highlighted man pages. As to a less stupid dedicated +pager, there's always most, which also does syntax highlighting though the +key commands don't quite work for me. It might do the redraw a little +better, but I'm not sure. + +On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Robin Lee Powell < +rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: + +> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> > Hello -- +> > +> > 2008/10/24 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>: +> > > +> > > I'm playing around with vertical split. I'm using Screen +> > > version 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian. +> > > +> > > When I have vertical split on, less is slow. *Really* slow. So +> > > is more. vim is OK. When I say "slow", I mean that when I say +> > > "less file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first +> > > screenful of data up. +> > > +> > > Any idea what's up? +> > +> > It's a known caveat of vertical splits in screen. Screen has to +> > continually redraw the region and so that slows things down. +> +> I had a giant post written about how vertical splits in emacs and +> vim are quite fast, and how running vim under a vertical split in +> screen is also snappy, as opposed to running less, so there *must* +> be a problem somewhere... +> +> And then I realized that when you page down in vim, it redraws its +> display area once. When you page down in less, it redraws line by +> line. +> +> -_- +> +> Holding down j in vim to make it redraw line by line makes +> everything just as slow as less. +> +> So. +> +> Can anyone reccomend a less (ha!) stupid pager? more does the same +> thing, and I can't view man pages like this. +> +> less -c mostly does the trick... Except that the initial screen +> clear to put the cursor at the top line is done the slow way, and +> hence takes ~30 seconds. "clear ; less -c [file]" works, but I'd +> love a better suggestion. +> +> -Robin +> +> -- +> They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +> And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +> other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +> http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +-- +-N +AKA:Tom Scogland +I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +the world. +-Albert Einstein + +------=_Part_58878_2343586.1224876374935 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Actually I use vim for that these days.  I have an alias that starts vim and runs ":Man <arguments>"  whenever I run man.  That means it works nice and fast, and I get nicely highlighted man pages.  As to a less stupid dedicated pager, there's always most, which also does syntax highlighting though the key commands don't quite work for me.  It might do the redraw a little better, but I'm not sure.<br> +<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Robin Lee Powell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div class="Ih2E3d">On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:<br> +> Hello --<br> +><br> +> 2008/10/24 Robin Lee Powell <<a href="mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org">rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org</a>>:<br> +> ><br> +> > I'm playing around with vertical split.  I'm using Screen<br> +> > version 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian.<br> +> ><br> +> > When I have vertical split on, less is slow.  *Really* slow.  So<br> +> > is more.  vim is OK.  When I say "slow", I mean that when I say<br> +> > "less file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first<br> +> > screenful of data up.<br> +> ><br> +> > Any idea what's up?<br> +><br> +> It's a known caveat of vertical splits in screen.  Screen has to<br> +> continually redraw the region and so that slows things down.<br> +<br> +</div>I had a giant post written about how vertical splits in emacs and<br> +vim are quite fast, and how running vim under a vertical split in<br> +screen is also snappy, as opposed to running less, so there *must*<br> +be a problem somewhere...<br> +<br> +And then I realized that when you page down in vim, it redraws its<br> +display area once.  When you page down in less, it redraws line by<br> +line.<br> +<br> +-_-<br> +<br> +Holding down j in vim to make it redraw line by line makes<br> +everything just as slow as less.<br> +<br> +So.<br> +<br> +Can anyone reccomend a less (ha!) stupid pager?  more does the same<br> +thing, and I can't view man pages like this.<br> +<br> +less -c mostly does the trick...  Except that the initial screen<br> +clear to put the cursor at the top line is done the slow way, and<br> +hence takes ~30 seconds.  "clear ; less -c [file]" works, but I'd<br> +love a better suggestion.<br> +<div class="Ih2E3d"><br> +-Robin<br> +<br> +--<br> +They say:  "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons."<br> +And I'm thinking:  "Does it even occur to you to try for something<br> +other than the default outcome?" -- <a href="http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre" target="_blank">http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre</a><br> +<a href="http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/" target="_blank">http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/</a> *** <a href="http://www.lojban.org/" target="_blank">http://www.lojban.org/</a><br> +<br> +<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +</div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">screen-users mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:screen-users@gnu.org">screen-users@gnu.org</a><br> +<a href="http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users" target="_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-N<br>AKA:Tom Scogland<br>I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.<br> +-Albert Einstein<br> + +------=_Part_58878_2343586.1224876374935-- + + + +--===============0892225959== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============0892225959==-- + + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 16:02:57 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1467FC304 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:02:57 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44349 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSru-0001xD-Na + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:02:46 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSpx-00018P-BJ + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:00:45 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtSpw-00017Z-Ki + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:00:45 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34284 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtSpw-00017R-HR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:00:44 -0400 +Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.3]:34502) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) id 1KtSpv-0007Ck-TS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:00:44 -0400 +Received: (qmail 26927 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2008 20:00:42 -0000 +Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) + (envelope-sender <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted + SMTP for <njustn@gmail.com>; 24 Oct 2008 20:00:41 -0000 +Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + id 1KtSps-0001nN-I8; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:00:40 -0700 +Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:00:40 -0700 +From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +To: Tom Scogland <njustn@gmail.com> +Message-ID: <20081024200040.GJ15209@digitalkingdom.org> +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> + <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> + <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> + <b0bad2450810241226y37010506y9f7950bf02d2b191@mail.gmail.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <b0bad2450810241226y37010506y9f7950bf02d2b191@mail.gmail.com> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3420 +Lines: 96 + +Yes, most does the right thing. Thanks! + +"view" (which is just read-only vim) does as well. + +-Robin + +On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 03:26:14PM -0400, Tom Scogland wrote: +> Actually I use vim for that these days. I have an alias that +> starts vim and runs ":Man <arguments>" whenever I run man. That +> means it works nice and fast, and I get nicely highlighted man +> pages. As to a less stupid dedicated pager, there's always most, +> which also does syntax highlighting though the key commands don't +> quite work for me. It might do the redraw a little better, but +> I'm not sure. +> +> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Robin Lee Powell < +> rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: +> +> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> > > Hello -- +> > > +> > > 2008/10/24 Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>: +> > > > +> > > > I'm playing around with vertical split. I'm using Screen +> > > > version 4.00.03jw4 (FAU) 2-May-06 on Debian. +> > > > +> > > > When I have vertical split on, less is slow. *Really* slow. So +> > > > is more. vim is OK. When I say "slow", I mean that when I say +> > > > "less file", it takes ~20 seconds for it to put the first +> > > > screenful of data up. +> > > > +> > > > Any idea what's up? +> > > +> > > It's a known caveat of vertical splits in screen. Screen has to +> > > continually redraw the region and so that slows things down. +> > +> > I had a giant post written about how vertical splits in emacs and +> > vim are quite fast, and how running vim under a vertical split in +> > screen is also snappy, as opposed to running less, so there *must* +> > be a problem somewhere... +> > +> > And then I realized that when you page down in vim, it redraws its +> > display area once. When you page down in less, it redraws line by +> > line. +> > +> > -_- +> > +> > Holding down j in vim to make it redraw line by line makes +> > everything just as slow as less. +> > +> > So. +> > +> > Can anyone reccomend a less (ha!) stupid pager? more does the same +> > thing, and I can't view man pages like this. +> > +> > less -c mostly does the trick... Except that the initial screen +> > clear to put the cursor at the top line is done the slow way, and +> > hence takes ~30 seconds. "clear ; less -c [file]" works, but I'd +> > love a better suggestion. +> > +> > -Robin +> > +> > -- +> > They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +> > And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +> > other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +> > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ +> > +> > +> > _______________________________________________ +> > screen-users mailing list +> > screen-users@gnu.org +> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> > +> +> +> +> -- +> -N +> AKA:Tom Scogland +> I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is +> more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles +> the world. +> -Albert Einstein + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 20:16:00 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DC87FC41C + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:16:00 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55498 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWop-0004iA-CD + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:15:51 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWnw-0004NF-Ne + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:14:56 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWnv-0004Lw-2v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:14:56 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39817 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtWnu-0004Li-QC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:14:54 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:52415 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1KtWnu-0001LI-5H + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:14:54 -0400 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWno-0001z9-Hu + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:14:48 +0000 +Received: from ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net ([118.208.245.43]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:14:48 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net with + local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:14:48 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:15:22 +1100 +Message-ID: <301vy5lecl.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> + <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> + <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:ifoErgSU/3Lzmpw9zYJivO2+xZo= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1037 +Lines: 23 + +Robin Lee Powell +<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> writes: + +> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: +> And then I realized that when you page down in vim, it redraws its +> display area once. When you page down in less, it redraws line by +> line. + +Please report this bug to the less maintainer. + +> Can anyone reccomend a less (ha!) stupid pager? more does the same +> thing, and I can't view man pages like this. +> +> less -c mostly does the trick... Except that the initial screen +> clear to put the cursor at the top line is done the slow way, and +> hence takes ~30 seconds. "clear ; less -c [file]" works, but I'd +> love a better suggestion. + +Does this work? It seems faster to me, but I can't get a big enough +$COLUMNS on my 7" screen to get enough slowdown to see it disappear. + + sudo aptitude install w3m + sudo update-alternatives --set pager /usr/bin/w3m + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 20:20:33 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA487FC441 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:33 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34947 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWtE-0008Oa-7h + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:24 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWsx-0008OV-Fs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:07 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWsv-0008OJ-Vs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:06 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48347 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtWsv-0008OG-Qv + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:05 -0400 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:59208 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1KtWsv-0002dY-8I + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:20:05 -0400 +Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1KtWss-00029T-DE + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:20:02 +0000 +Received: from ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net ([118.208.245.43]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:20:02 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net with + local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:20:02 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:19:11 +1100 +Message-ID: <30vdvhjzls.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <20081024025428.GP31898@digitalkingdom.org> + <18071eea0810240626uaeee01cq667ccb1fa2639d03@mail.gmail.com> + <20081024183416.GG15209@digitalkingdom.org> + <b0bad2450810241226y37010506y9f7950bf02d2b191@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-208-245-43.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:x3+vYCaGTJ1CCo43q721JFW+Skk= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Very bad/slow redraw with vertical split. +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 798 +Lines: 19 + +"Tom Scogland" <njustn@gmail.com> writes: + +> Actually I use vim for that these days. I have an alias that starts +> vim and runs ":Man <arguments>" whenever I run man. + +For Emacs' M-x shell, I have this in .bashrc: + + if test -z "$EMACS$INSIDE_EMACS" + then + : [...] + else + PS1='$ ' # be brief in M-x shell + export PAGER=cat # fuck you, git-log! + if which man &>/dev/null + then man () { twb-emacsclient -e "(man \"$1\" t)"; } + else man () { twb-emacsclient -e "(woman \"$1\" t)"; } + fi + info () { twb-emacsclient -e "(info \"${2+(}$1${2+)$2}\")"; } + fi + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 01:06:52 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739477FC74A + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:06:52 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41432 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvPk0-0004Sx-Kf + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:06:40 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvOeU-00074O-7M + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:54 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvOeT-00073l-KL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:53 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54120 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvOeT-00073c-Hd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:53 -0400 +Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:39706) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <cpriest@warpmail.net>) id 1KvOeT-0004Cx-CK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:53 -0400 +Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) + by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078DC18A218 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:51 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) + by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:51 -0400 +X-Sasl-enc: dQTYG8wEu/erVVIevOayCGNCkLs4mmtyI8Zpb5j+wkk1 1225339010 +Received: from [10.10.10.10] (c-24-118-159-172.hsd1.mn.comcast.net + [24.118.159.172]) + by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BB513261D8 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:50 -0400 (EDT) +Message-ID: <49093084.5070607@warpmail.net> +Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:56:52 -0500 +From: Clint Priest <cpriest@warpmail.net> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:06:09 -0400 +Subject: Screen Issues +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1183 +Lines: 35 + +I'm having some difficult in getting screen to do what I'm looking for. +What I want to do is to setup a screen config which will launch two +windows, in the top window it would be the output from 'svn commit' and +the bottom would be the output from 'svn diff | vim -R -'. I've got +most of it working but the problem I'm running into is that when the +'svn commit' is complete I want it to automatically 'quit' the screen +session. + +Here's the screenrc file I have setup for it: + +--------------------------------------------- +split +screen bash -c "svn commit || bash" +eval "resize 10" +focus +screen +exec ... /bin/bash -c "sudo svn diff | vim -R -" +focus +--------------------------------------------- + +I've tried numerous ways of getting the 'quit' to work automatically but +have been unable to find a way to do it... + +1) Is there any way to get 'quit' to work from the bash command line? +2) Is there any way to 'stuff' a keyboard command after the 'svn commit' +ends? I could then bind a key to quit and do it that way. + +Thanks + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 01:21:44 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DB07FC749 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:43 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36964 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvPyQ-0001wu-8W + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:34 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvPxu-0001wm-5f + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:02 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvPxs-0001wa-G8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:01 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42714 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvPxs-0001wX-8s + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:00 -0400 +Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.6]:32862) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) id 1KvPxr-0003Mz-Uq + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:21:00 -0400 +Received: (qmail 22002 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2008 05:20:52 -0000 +Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.66.169]) + (envelope-sender <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted + SMTP for <cpriest@warpmail.net>; 30 Oct 2008 05:20:52 -0000 +Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.69) + (envelope-from <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>) + id 1KvPxj-000297-Ks; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:51 -0700 +Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:20:51 -0700 +From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +To: Clint Priest <cpriest@warpmail.net> +Message-ID: <20081030052051.GO1092@digitalkingdom.org> +References: <49093084.5070607@warpmail.net> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Disposition: inline +In-Reply-To: <49093084.5070607@warpmail.net> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen Issues +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 639 +Lines: 19 + +On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:52PM -0500, Clint Priest wrote: +> 1) Is there any way to get 'quit' to work from the bash command +> line? + +Have it kill the parent process, which should be the screen session. + +-Robin + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 01:34:25 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC90727368 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:34:25 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60820 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvQAh-0006x9-MS + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:34:15 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvQAI-0006x4-So + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:33:51 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvQAG-0006ws-Nt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:33:50 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54783 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvQAG-0006wp-Ip + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:33:48 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:38904) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <micah@cowan.name>) id 1KvQAG-00061d-9T + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:33:48 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.3] (adsl-76-227-19-37.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.227.19.37]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA623CC8096; + Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:33:44 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <49094736.7060909@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:33:42 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +References: <49093084.5070607@warpmail.net> + <20081030052051.GO1092@digitalkingdom.org> +In-Reply-To: <20081030052051.GO1092@digitalkingdom.org> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen Issues +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 864 +Lines: 31 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Robin Lee Powell wrote: +> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:52PM -0500, Clint Priest wrote: +>> 1) Is there any way to get 'quit' to work from the bash command +>> line? +> +> Have it kill the parent process, which should be the screen session. + +'screen -X quit' should also do the trick. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFJCUc27M8hyUobTrERAg9FAJ9x4LHTl9mTyzkyKAYYdQQll9k8FgCeLGux +5eCEfHZJXFxSZV7sMVm7Yz4= +=oLjp +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 09:56:02 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C799C7FC5C4 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:56:02 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53529 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvY08-0001nv-2c + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:52 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvXzf-0001kF-MH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:23 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvXze-0001jI-SL + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:23 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41151 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvXze-0001j9-OK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:22 -0400 +Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:37597) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <cpriest@warpmail.net>) id 1KvXze-0006LF-Jw + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:22 -0400 +Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) + by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AC818A22F; + Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:20 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) + by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:20 -0400 +X-Sasl-enc: 5c86mqiIpoYN3B6dGL28oBQU4CUXhOcovMYLAXchGmJr 1225374920 +Received: from [10.10.10.10] (c-24-118-159-172.hsd1.mn.comcast.net + [24.118.159.172]) + by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 276812E82B; + Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:55:20 -0400 (EDT) +Message-ID: <4909BCCA.7000206@warpmail.net> +Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:55:22 -0500 +From: Clint Priest <cpriest@warpmail.net> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +References: <49093084.5070607@warpmail.net> + <20081030052051.GO1092@digitalkingdom.org> + <49094736.7060909@cowan.name> +In-Reply-To: <49094736.7060909@cowan.name> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not + recognized. +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Screen Issues +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1305829709==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1862 +Lines: 65 + +--===============1305829709== +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit + +<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> +<head> + <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> +</head> +<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> +That did it, thanks!<br> +<br> +Micah Cowan wrote: +<blockquote cite="mid:49094736.7060909@cowan.name" type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Robin Lee Powell wrote: + </pre> + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:56:52PM -0500, Clint Priest wrote: + </pre> + <blockquote type="cite"> + <pre wrap="">1) Is there any way to get 'quit' to work from the bash command +line? + </pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap="">Have it kill the parent process, which should be the screen session. + </pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap=""><!----> +'screen -X quit' should also do the trick. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://micah.cowan.name/">http://micah.cowan.name/</a> +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a> + +iD8DBQFJCUc27M8hyUobTrERAg9FAJ9x4LHTl9mTyzkyKAYYdQQll9k8FgCeLGux +5eCEfHZJXFxSZV7sMVm7Yz4= +=oLjp +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + </pre> +</blockquote> +</body> +</html> + + + +--===============1305829709== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1305829709==-- + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Oct 30 22:00:12 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3EC7FB2E9 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:00:11 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40511 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvjIu-0006q2-Vj + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:00:01 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvZ4s-0001BE-9R + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:04:50 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvZ4q-00019A-UC + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:04:49 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51850 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvZ4q-00018u-PD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:04:48 -0400 +Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:47065) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ttyc@gmx.net>) id 1KvZ4q-0007ND-Df + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:04:48 -0400 +Received: (qmail 18545 invoked by uid 0); 30 Oct 2008 15:04:45 -0000 +Received: from 84.57.248.29 by www044.gmx.net with HTTP; + Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:45 +0100 (CET) +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" +Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:45 +0100 +From: "Thomas Heller" <ttyc@gmx.net> +Message-ID: <20081030150445.40030@gmx.net> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Authenticated: #36284028 +X-Flags: 0001 +X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) +X-Priority: 3 +X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/g1EkrEK7gHAUi4ha/H++6fLVZPp7EWaVbkG8BEL + syy/8/00l5tv6bWQchyIuguQuRTi+9SE6VRQ== +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +X-GMX-UID: bKR8epc6ODB6VxbHWmZML1E9Ji9SWpIJ +X-FuHaFi: 0.82 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:59:04 -0400 +Subject: status line(s) +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 523 +Lines: 20 + +Hello, + +I've seen this on screenshots more than once by now. Is there a way to +set a hardstatus line consisting of multiple lines or is using a +hardstatus line plus caption simultaneously the only way to have more +than one line (i.e. two lines)? + + +Thomas + + + +-- +Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Nov 1 09:56:33 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA3A7F7BA4 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:56:32 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51362 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KwGxh-0003fY-22 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:56:21 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvyaF-0004PR-ET + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:18:55 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KvyaC-0004NA-SX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:18:55 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35836 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvyaC-0004Mw-2c + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:18:52 -0400 +Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:49018) + by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ukf-deadly-tiger@gmx.de>) id 1Kvya9-0003VI-MD + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:18:50 -0400 +Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Oct 2008 18:12:04 -0000 +Received: from p549B6703.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.1.3]) [84.155.103.3] + by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 31 Oct 2008 19:12:04 +0100 +X-Authenticated: #11577547 +X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19QvWZD4/tQ8QhSShkvttD1G34pmoxbKVQr/48XKK + KbvqwFarx/rGAe +Message-ID: <490B4A6F.7060603@gmx.de> +Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:11:59 +0100 +From: Andreas Herz <ukf-deadly-tiger@gmx.de> +User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081018) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 +X-FuHaFi: 0.6 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:52:44 -0400 +Subject: screen with irssi, sux.theme, urxvt +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1320 +Lines: 39 + +Hi, + +i have a confusing problem. I have a debian testing system. I use urxvt +on my desktop, then ssh to the server with irssi running in screen. I +also use the sux.theme from the irssi.org page. Now i found out, that in +the bottom line, i have a display disfunction. In the line with "time + +nickname + channelname + Act:", there are ANSI Chars. I have +Questionmarks, what is HTML-Code  in this ANSI Table: +http://www.torsten-horn.de/techdocs/ascii.htm + +But if you look at the sux.theme screenshot on the irssi.org page, they +have squares. So i tried to run irssi in urxvt, there i have no +problems, i can see the squares. Furthermore i checked serveral things. +Both systems, desktop and server, are fully UTF-8, also screen and irssi +itself are set to use UTF-8. Locales are also UTF-8. So i tried to +replave $TERM=screen with $TERM=rxvt-unicode. Nothign changed. + +So my guess is, that there is a issue with screen and the display of +ANSI Chars. Do you have any hint for me? + +I also made 2 screenshots that i uploaded here: + +1. Irssi in screen: + +http://web10.syscp.nutime.de/stuff/2.jpg + +2. Irssi only in urxvt: + +http://web10.syscp.nutime.de/stuff/1.jpg + +Thx + +Andi + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Nov 1 13:12:30 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3597F8398 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:12:30 -0400 (EDT) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59055 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KwK1L-0006eQ-Ps + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:12:19 -0400 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KwJwr-0004o2-TU + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:07:41 -0400 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KwJwq-0004ms-Ae + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:07:41 -0400 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55418 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KwJwq-0004mo-4N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:07:40 -0400 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:52027) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <micah@cowan.name>) id 1KwJwp-0004G8-J2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:07:39 -0400 +Received: from [10.0.0.3] (adsl-76-199-98-243.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.199.98.243]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C46408804A; + Sat, 1 Nov 2008 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) +Message-ID: <490C8CDB.20401@cowan.name> +Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 10:07:39 -0700 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Andreas Herz <ukf-deadly-tiger@gmx.de> +References: <490B4A6F.7060603@gmx.de> +In-Reply-To: <490B4A6F.7060603@gmx.de> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: screen with irssi, sux.theme, urxvt +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2107 +Lines: 54 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Andreas Herz wrote: +> Hi, +> +> i have a confusing problem. I have a debian testing system. I use urxvt +> on my desktop, then ssh to the server with irssi running in screen. I +> also use the sux.theme from the irssi.org page. Now i found out, that in +> the bottom line, i have a display disfunction. In the line with "time + +> nickname + channelname + Act:", there are ANSI Chars. I have +> Questionmarks, what is HTML-Code  in this ANSI Table: +> http://www.torsten-horn.de/techdocs/ascii.htm + + is not a graphic character, either questionmark or box. It is a +character in the C1 control character set that has _no_ assigned +meaning. Whether it gets displayed at all, and if displayed, how, are +all undefined. + +When I run irssi with the sux theme, it's sending 0xB7, which is not a +legal UTF-8 character, and not 0x81 (which also isn't, anyway). 0xB7 in +the latin1 encoding is "middle dot" (probably the "square" you want); +but since you're running in UTF-8 it's a nonsensical byte value. + +In gnome-terminal, either inside or outside of screen, 0xB7 is rendered +as a question-mark. In urxvt inside of screen, I get full-character +boxes, rather than question-marks. It's not guaranteed to be rendered in +_any_ particular way, since it's not a meaningful byte value. + +It looks like the sux theme assumes a ISO-8859-* encoding, so if you +want it to render properly in screen, you'll need to tell screen that +it's in latin1 rather than UTF-8. For instance, turning _off_ UTF-8 mode +in screen fixed the issue for me. + +- -- +HTH, +Micah J. 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This sets the title to the current host +# name. The actual prompt is the hostname followed by $ for bash or +# %# for zsh, which is magic that shows either # if you're root or % +# if you're not. +# +# zsh: PS1="$(echo -e '%{\033]83;title '$(uname -n)'\007%}%m%# ')" +# +# bash: PS1="\[\033]83;title $(uname -n)\a\]$(uname -n)\$ " +# +##### + +-Robin + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Nov 6 01:52:07 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89227FD5BF + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 01:52:06 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60715 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kxyii-0008QC-R1 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:51:57 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KxyhV-00083T-ES + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:50:41 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KxyhT-00082L-K1 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:50:40 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49047 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxyhT-000824-5x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:50:39 -0500 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:58985) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <micah@cowan.name>) id 1KxyhT-0006bJ-4x + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:50:39 -0500 +Received: from [10.0.0.3] (adsl-76-199-97-55.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net + [76.199.97.55]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175CA408804E; + Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:50:34 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <491293B7.4060205@cowan.name> +Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:50:31 -0800 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> +References: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> <49122091.1010204@cowan.name> + <20081106061343.GX20021@digitalkingdom.org> +In-Reply-To: <20081106061343.GX20021@digitalkingdom.org> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: Gokdeniz Karadag <gokdenizk@gmail.com>, screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2321 +Lines: 71 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Robin Lee Powell wrote: +> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 02:39:13PM -0800, Micah Cowan wrote: +>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +>> Hash: SHA1 +>> +>> Gokdeniz Karadag wrote: +>>> Hi, +>>> +>>> This is more like a story, I am trying to automatically set +>>> "GNU screen window title" equal to the hostname that is +>>> connected by ssh. +>> This has been a recurring need, solved in various ways. +> +> I've solved it by prompt hacking; here's the relevant bits from my +> .screenrc at work: +> +> # Magic to make PS1 goodness work +> hardstatus off +> hardstatus string "%t" +> chacl :window: -rwx #? +> chacl :window: +x title +> +> ##### +> # With this setup, you can change the current window's title by +> # sending an ANSI escape sequence; this will change the window's +> # title and the title will show up in the hardstatus line (i.e. the +> # title bar in PuTTY). This sets the title to the current host +> # name. The actual prompt is the hostname followed by $ for bash or +> # %# for zsh, which is magic that shows either # if you're root or % +> # if you're not. +> # +> # zsh: PS1="$(echo -e '%{\033]83;title '$(uname -n)'\007%}%m%# ')" +> # +> # bash: PS1="\[\033]83;title $(uname -n)\a\]$(uname -n)\$ " +> # +> ##### + +I don't really see how that does what the thread's talking about; +namely, set the window title to the hostname that's connected by ssh. + +Kinda cool about the :window:/OSC 83 command execution hack, though. I +was incredulous that those chacls actually did anything related to the +window title. + +As previously mentioned in these threads (IIRC?), the problem with +prompt hacks is you don't always have control over the prompts in remote +shells (and even when you do, it's a bit of a pain to set up in every +host you ever visit). + +- -- +Micah J. 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The LocalCommand hack is kinda neat. + +-Robin + +-- +They say: "The first AIs will be built by the military as weapons." +And I'm thinking: "Does it even occur to you to try for something +other than the default outcome?" -- http://shorl.com/tydruhedufogre +http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Nov 6 05:33:05 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0497FD822 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:33:04 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46938 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky2AX-00055u-67 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:32:53 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky23G-0007RH-SN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:25:22 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky23F-0007P6-PG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:25:22 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56473 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky23F-0007OH-H8 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:25:21 -0500 +Received: from triton.rz.uni-saarland.de ([134.96.7.25]:29598) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <malte@countnumber.de>) id 1Ky23E-0007Nd-VF + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:25:21 -0500 +Received: from [134.96.56.73] (d073.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de [134.96.56.73]) + by triton.rz.uni-saarland.de (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id + mA6APEbe028187 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:25:17 +0100 +Message-ID: <4912C5FC.6020903@countnumber.de> +Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:25:00 +0100 +From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080923) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <4877F658.9050203@gmail.com> + <49122091.1010204@cowan.name> <20081106061343.GX20021@digitalkingdom.org> <491293B7.4060205@cowan.name> + <20081106065311.GY20021@digitalkingdom.org> +In-Reply-To: <20081106065311.GY20021@digitalkingdom.org> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (triton.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.25]); + Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:25:17 +0100 (CET) +X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-14; AVE: 7.9.0.26; + VDF: 7.1.0.46; host: AntiVir3) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1293 +Lines: 48 + +Hi, + +I solved the problem in bash by editing my ~/.profile file: + +ssh() { + args=$@ + echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; + /usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +} + +It"s a rather simple script, whenever you call ssh, first this script is +executed, which calls the real ssh in the end, with the same arguments. +Before it does that, however, it sets the screen title to the last +argument of the ssh command. Usually, this is the hostname, at least for +the way I enter commands ;-) + +Malte + +Robin Lee Powell schrieb: +> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 10:50:31PM -0800, Micah Cowan wrote: +> +>> I don't really see how that does what the thread's talking about; +>> namely, set the window title to the hostname that's connected by +>> ssh. +>> +> +> You set your remote shell's PS1 to tell screen to set the title to +> $(uname -n) or whatever. +> +> +>> As previously mentioned in these threads (IIRC?), the problem with +>> prompt hacks is you don't always have control over the prompts in +>> remote shells (and even when you do, it's a bit of a pain to set +>> up in every host you ever visit). +>> +> +> True enough. The LocalCommand hack is kinda neat. +> +> -Robin +> +> + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Thu Nov 6 08:01:17 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFC17FD603 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:01:17 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44654 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4Ty-0004iO-6s + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:01:06 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4T9-0004R9-QN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:00:16 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4T3-0004LF-MM + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:00:09 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35658 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky4T0-0004Ke-HY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:00:06 -0500 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:53048 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1Ky4Sz-0005DZ-R2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:00:06 -0500 +Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4Sw-0003t9-FK + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:00:02 +0000 +Received: from ppp118-208-208-155.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net + ([118.208.208.155]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:00:02 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-208-208-155.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net + with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:00:02 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. 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Usually, this is the hostname, at least for +the way I enter commands ;-) + +Malte + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 08:29:14 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C447FE245 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:29:14 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46766 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyROa-0004OC-Ix + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:29:04 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyRO7-0004NN-Vf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:28:36 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyRO7-0004Mz-FH + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:28:35 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33187 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyRO7-0004Mi-5A + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:28:35 -0500 +Received: from triton.rz.uni-saarland.de ([134.96.7.25]:7544) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <malte@countnumber.de>) id 1KyRO6-0005qp-Mi + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:28:35 -0500 +Received: from [134.96.56.73] (d073.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de [134.96.56.73]) + by triton.rz.uni-saarland.de (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id + mA7DSTRQ018556 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:28:32 +0100 +Message-ID: <49144274.4060703@countnumber.de> +Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:28:20 +0100 +From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080923) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <4913249a.0a0bca0a.59e4.7443SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <4913A7B6.2070505@gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <4913A7B6.2070505@gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (triton.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.25]); + Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:28:32 +0100 (CET) +X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-14; AVE: 7.9.0.26; + VDF: 7.1.0.52; host: AntiVir3) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2417 +Lines: 80 + +Hi, + +thanks for the tip with the 'command ssh' instead of /ust/bin/ssh +trick... didn't know about that. + +I quickly hacked this script into my ~/.profile a while ago, so it may +not be that beautiful from a cosmetic point of view. Indeed I can leave +out the semicolons, they're just still there because this was a +one-liner to begin with ;) + +I do 'revert' my screen title after the ssh command terminates. I just +don't revert it to the local hostname, but always set the title to the +current directory (at least, to the last 20 characters of $PWD) :-) + +This is also in my ~/.profile +The PROMPT_COMMAND from bash is executed each time after any command was +executed. As this is really executed each and every time, it needs to be +lightning fast - that's why I coded it entirely in bash. Yes, I know I +could theoretically use sed or perl or whatever... ;-) + +PROMPT_COMMAND=' +if [ $TERM = "screen" ]; then + MYPWD="${PWD/#$HOME/~}" + [ ${#MYPWD} -gt 20 ] && MYPWD=..${MYPWD:${#MYPWD}-18} + echo -n -e "\033k$MYPWD\033\\" +fi +' + +Cheers, + +Malte + +Gokdeniz Karadag schrieb: +> Hi, in your script, it would be better to revert it back to local +> hostname after ssh finishes. +> +> Both this and LocalCommand seems neat, too bad that I have solved it +> by manually setting PS1 on all machines :) +> +> ------------------------------ +> +> Message: 5 +> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:25:00 +0100 +> From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +> Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +> To: screen-users@gnu.org +> Message-ID: <4912C5FC.6020903@countnumber.de> +> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +> +> Hi, +> +> I solved the problem in bash by editing my ~/.profile file: +> +> ssh() { +> args=$@ +> echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; +> /usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +> } +> +> It"s a rather simple script, whenever you call ssh, first this script is +> executed, which calls the real ssh in the end, with the same arguments. +> Before it does that, however, it sets the screen title to the last +> argument of the ssh command. Usually, this is the hostname, at least for +> the way I enter commands ;-) +> +> Malte +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +> + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 09:13:30 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1687FC97B + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:13:30 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37294 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyS5Q-0005bE-2W + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:13:20 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyRzL-0003Ld-5N + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:07:03 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyRzJ-0003KY-74 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:07:02 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47798 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyRzI-0003KS-Vg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:07:01 -0500 +Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.173]:17480) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com>) id 1KyRzI-0008Nw-BG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:07:00 -0500 +Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 36so1348891uga.17 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:06:58 -0800 (PST) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; + bh=d4vseWJPy8MxJOU0nQOpixuoEC2Ydna2Ra1AEL0TxFQ=; + b=wSoxomIsMghi6NXNyVIYAF19HYMRRUPi5cKTDZeRFzj0MRcmI0LdZ643DiVsoa8Pq1 + AAxEdi1oXTVoU3wc5oTuw9HWBry+ALvKlAZ2ad027Pwc7R6sE2qsChSvW3vUxS7XYC8k + TEideZbs32aOSI2rFIICE4dEHdAVdgjf7ean4= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version + :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition + :references; + b=R1XDp/y48xjbbaSQ0RaXUTMTgP7UyFbCud+P7DEjl6rn1CQS7Ye3GVj1xzQL94dcU3 + j5vGbX0riVam3p9pJe1TWCSYzQ923rVcU8InIDE+eMfoPmwIbwBK7O6KuLODnoqag+jA + yqn6c2f6araz78wsOu854X2mxWri7ldhm6Chk= +Received: by 10.103.249.19 with SMTP id b19mr1782615mus.86.1226066817850; + Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:06:57 -0800 (PST) +Received: by 10.103.241.12 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:06:57 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <5e744e3d0811070606l6526142am9dced146bd7ba47f@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:36:57 +0530 +From: "Pandurangan R S" <pandurangan.r.s@gmail.com> +To: "Malte Skoruppa" <malte@countnumber.de> +In-Reply-To: <49144274.4060703@countnumber.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +References: <4913249a.0a0bca0a.59e4.7443SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <4913A7B6.2070505@gmail.com> <49144274.4060703@countnumber.de> +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 2897 +Lines: 89 + +I think you can as well do the following. + +ssh() { +args=$@ +echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; +/usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +# Set window title back here! +} + +Any problem with this approach? + +On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> wrote: +> +> Hi, +> +> thanks for the tip with the 'command ssh' instead of /ust/bin/ssh trick... didn't know about that. +> +> I quickly hacked this script into my ~/.profile a while ago, so it may not be that beautiful from a cosmetic point of view. Indeed I can leave out the semicolons, they're just still there because this was a one-liner to begin with ;) +> +> I do 'revert' my screen title after the ssh command terminates. I just don't revert it to the local hostname, but always set the title to the current directory (at least, to the last 20 characters of $PWD) :-) +> +> This is also in my ~/.profile +> The PROMPT_COMMAND from bash is executed each time after any command was executed. As this is really executed each and every time, it needs to be lightning fast - that's why I coded it entirely in bash. Yes, I know I could theoretically use sed or perl or whatever... ;-) +> +> PROMPT_COMMAND=' +> if [ $TERM = "screen" ]; then +> MYPWD="${PWD/#$HOME/~}" +> [ ${#MYPWD} -gt 20 ] && MYPWD=..${MYPWD:${#MYPWD}-18} +> echo -n -e "\033k$MYPWD\033\\" +> fi +> ' +> +> Cheers, +> +> Malte +> +> Gokdeniz Karadag schrieb: +>> +>> Hi, in your script, it would be better to revert it back to local hostname after ssh finishes. +>> +>> Both this and LocalCommand seems neat, too bad that I have solved it by manually setting PS1 on all machines :) +>> +>> ------------------------------ +>> +>> Message: 5 +>> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:25:00 +0100 +>> From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +>> Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +>> To: screen-users@gnu.org +>> Message-ID: <4912C5FC.6020903@countnumber.de> +>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +>> +>> Hi, +>> +>> I solved the problem in bash by editing my ~/.profile file: +>> +>> ssh() { +>> args=$@ +>> echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; +>> /usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +>> } +>> +>> It"s a rather simple script, whenever you call ssh, first this script is +>> executed, which calls the real ssh in the end, with the same arguments. +>> Before it does that, however, it sets the screen title to the last +>> argument of the ssh command. Usually, this is the hostname, at least for +>> the way I enter commands ;-) +>> +>> Malte +>> +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>> +> +> +> +> _______________________________________________ +> screen-users mailing list +> screen-users@gnu.org +> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 10:26:07 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE147FD0B4 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:26:07 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42466 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyTDf-0004JY-JC + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:25:55 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyTDJ-0004HJ-Vs + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:25:34 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyTDI-0004GT-8f + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:25:33 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50911 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyTDI-0004GK-34 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:25:32 -0500 +Received: from triton.rz.uni-saarland.de ([134.96.7.25]:16167) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps + (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <malte@countnumber.de>) id 1KyTDH-0004LS-KW + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:25:31 -0500 +Received: from [134.96.56.73] (d073.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de [134.96.56.73]) + by triton.rz.uni-saarland.de (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id + mA7FPPLD013502 + (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:25:29 +0100 +Message-ID: <49145DDE.1090801@countnumber.de> +Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:25:18 +0100 +From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080923) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: screen-users@gnu.org +References: <4913249a.0a0bca0a.59e4.7443SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> + <4913A7B6.2070505@gmail.com> <49144274.4060703@countnumber.de> + <5e744e3d0811070606l6526142am9dced146bd7ba47f@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <5e744e3d0811070606l6526142am9dced146bd7ba47f@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 + (triton.rz.uni-saarland.de [134.96.7.25]); + Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:25:29 +0100 (CET) +X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.2-14; AVE: 7.9.0.26; + VDF: 7.1.0.53; host: AntiVir3) +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3221 +Lines: 99 + +Of course that's possible, but I want my screen title to be set to $PWD +every time (especially when I issue a 'cd' command, obviously), not only +after an ssh command :-) + +Malte + +Pandurangan R S schrieb: +> I think you can as well do the following. +> +> ssh() { +> args=$@ +> echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; +> /usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +> # Set window title back here! +> } +> +> Any problem with this approach? +> +> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> wrote: +> +>> Hi, +>> +>> thanks for the tip with the 'command ssh' instead of /ust/bin/ssh trick... didn't know about that. +>> +>> I quickly hacked this script into my ~/.profile a while ago, so it may not be that beautiful from a cosmetic point of view. Indeed I can leave out the semicolons, they're just still there because this was a one-liner to begin with ;) +>> +>> I do 'revert' my screen title after the ssh command terminates. I just don't revert it to the local hostname, but always set the title to the current directory (at least, to the last 20 characters of $PWD) :-) +>> +>> This is also in my ~/.profile +>> The PROMPT_COMMAND from bash is executed each time after any command was executed. As this is really executed each and every time, it needs to be lightning fast - that's why I coded it entirely in bash. Yes, I know I could theoretically use sed or perl or whatever... ;-) +>> +>> PROMPT_COMMAND=' +>> if [ $TERM = "screen" ]; then +>> MYPWD="${PWD/#$HOME/~}" +>> [ ${#MYPWD} -gt 20 ] && MYPWD=..${MYPWD:${#MYPWD}-18} +>> echo -n -e "\033k$MYPWD\033\\" +>> fi +>> ' +>> +>> Cheers, +>> +>> Malte +>> +>> Gokdeniz Karadag schrieb: +>> +>>> Hi, in your script, it would be better to revert it back to local hostname after ssh finishes. +>>> +>>> Both this and LocalCommand seems neat, too bad that I have solved it by manually setting PS1 on all machines :) +>>> +>>> ------------------------------ +>>> +>>> Message: 5 +>>> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:25:00 +0100 +>>> From: Malte Skoruppa <malte@countnumber.de> +>>> Subject: Re: Setting window title in ssh'ed host +>>> To: screen-users@gnu.org +>>> Message-ID: <4912C5FC.6020903@countnumber.de> +>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed +>>> +>>> Hi, +>>> +>>> I solved the problem in bash by editing my ~/.profile file: +>>> +>>> ssh() { +>>> args=$@ +>>> echo -ne "\033k${args##* }\033\\"; +>>> /usr/bin/ssh "$@"; +>>> } +>>> +>>> It"s a rather simple script, whenever you call ssh, first this script is +>>> executed, which calls the real ssh in the end, with the same arguments. +>>> Before it does that, however, it sets the screen title to the last +>>> argument of the ssh command. Usually, this is the hostname, at least for +>>> the way I enter commands ;-) +>>> +>>> Malte +>>> +>>> +>>> _______________________________________________ +>>> screen-users mailing list +>>> screen-users@gnu.org +>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>>> +>>> +>> +>> _______________________________________________ +>> screen-users mailing list +>> screen-users@gnu.org +>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users +>> +> +> + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 12:24:14 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB827FCA18 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:24:14 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33251 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyV40-0006XB-G2 + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:24:04 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4u4-0004BJ-2v + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:28:04 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Ky4ty-00048R-ER + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:28:01 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35953 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky4tx-000487-56 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:27:57 -0500 +Received: from nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.13.205]:55110) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>) id 1Ky4tw-000631-Rc + for screen-users@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:27:57 -0500 +Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) + by nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mA6DRcSA019725 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:40 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.24.147]) + by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6DRcsx001405 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:38 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6DRcYk015145 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:38 GMT +Received: (from ht@localhost) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA6DRaLb015144; + Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:36 GMT +X-Authentication-Warning: hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to + ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) +User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.4.21 (linux) +Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:27:32 +0000 +Message-ID: <f5bzlkdnfwb.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk + with MIMEDefang 2.60, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus +X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 129.215.13.205 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:17:09 -0500 +Subject: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1335 +Lines: 41 + +=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +I use screen on cygwin, with ncurses 5.7, and rxvt for my window. + +The 'less' program has an irritating fault in this configuration which +I can't figure out how to work around: + + * When using less in a vanilla rxvt window, the screen returns to its + pre-less state after quitting less -- good. + + * When using less in a screen-managed window, with TERM=3Dscreen.rxvt, + the screen shows the last page displayed by less after quitting + less -- less good. + +Do others have this problem? Any suggestions welcome. + +Thanks, + +ht +=2D --=20 + Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh + Half-time member of W3C Team + 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 + Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk + URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ +[mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged sp= +am] +=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) + +iD8DBQFJEvDHkjnJixAXWBoRAs9KAJ92gKnj29svrfxEh8n8leCkTEdCvwCePiLz +1zE5CQvHzDIeBr3NwPyEoO4=3D +=3DAcDi +=2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 12:29:16 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86A97FCC47 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:29:15 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38309 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyV8r-0001J5-Ct + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:29:05 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyTj6-0004TG-Vt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:58:25 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyTj6-0004S9-4k + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:58:24 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyTj5-0004Ry-OB + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:58:23 -0500 +Received: from nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.13.205]:63672) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>) id 1KyTj5-0005Yp-5l + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:58:23 -0500 +Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) + by nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mA7FvuxF013730 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:57:58 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.24.147]) + by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA7FvuO1018069 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:57:56 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA7FvuDK009498 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:57:56 GMT +Received: (from ht@localhost) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA7FvtCw009497; + Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:57:56 GMT +X-Authentication-Warning: hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to + ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. 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Any suggestions welcome. + +Thanks, + +ht +-- + Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh + Half-time member of W3C Team + 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 + Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk + URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ +[mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged spam] + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Fri Nov 7 14:00:59 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,HS_INDEX_PARAM autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A947FCE5F + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:00:59 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42536 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyWZb-0003CB-1x + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:47 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyWZI-0003BR-1m + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:28 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyWZG-0003A2-FX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:27 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49501 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyWZG-00039q-Cg + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:26 -0500 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:39587) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <micah@cowan.name>) id 1KyWZF-000386-SN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:26 -0500 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC82408804A; + Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:00:23 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> +Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:00:22 -0800 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> +References: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +In-Reply-To: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1596 +Lines: 50 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Henry S. Thompson wrote: +> I built screen 4.0.3 from source, with cygwin patches, on cygwin, with +> ncurses 5.7, and rxvt for my terminal emulator. +> +> The 'less' program has an irritating fault in this configuration which +> I can't figure out how to work around: +> +> * When using less in a vanilla rxvt window, the screen returns to its +> pre-less state after quitting less -- good. +> +> * When using less in a screen-managed window, with TERM=screen.rxvt, +> the screen shows the last page displayed by less after quitting +> less -- not good. +> + +I'm not entirely sure I understand what the symptom is that you're +describing for running less under the screen-managed window, but it +sounds like it might be similar to this one, which is fixed in the +current dev sources: + +https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?23803 + +(read from the bottom up). + +Also, I don't know what screen.rxvt's definition is, since that's not a +standard term name. Hopefully your system has proper definitions set up +for that. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iD8DBQFJFJBG7M8hyUobTrERAgUiAJ46+3oYzsAZaNuLn36m83RV1vI0jwCfdJcx +xtwhr4tVngxzxxijRN5oybw= +=z/SX +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Nov 8 09:53:45 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A3C7FD018 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:53:45 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47489 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KypBt-0000h8-GJ + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:53:33 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyaHx-0004A0-RX + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:58:49 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KyaHw-00047M-I2 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:58:48 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32892 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyaHw-00047C-A6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:58:48 -0500 +Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]:60532) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ryanshow@gmail.com>) id 1KyaHv-00081n-PY + for screen-users@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:58:48 -0500 +Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1278436fgb.30 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding + :content-disposition; + bh=fu0Sb4PKRNQTBQxOA96TOMtSRr4WGdNzFoPyjCMw5EI=; + b=Rwar7tOrubdEMtuKyr3cE4g/vy+9o/VQv6sOGvkvwks9pvmYi8JKjNoufzp6dHgPbN + XfsIvmckdC3OPYTX/4oI5HS4sVnUdnMsIp9ZSUw8fPMjBw8OtrY7bh3rjfzXRMsr+d7H + j2EhaMKpYV8KjZ3n0pHNFYKuSkukc+aM6GSeo= +DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; + h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type + :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; + b=S0+FOZR8Y/PwqNh4U6d7UXvV68CKGphN8GUM1ZNIYkAImuDFWmx0I7KvWBU9wLN5Fq + KzKIW4Qd1Ztjw8qqHb03v/pyLZA8uZCEthttQwn2K1/QXhYaKmkMwyzpDkOWkaeNWeO8 + DpUBm6+qlRLfG2ZSefKD68xc2I7Z7tNyT021g= +Received: by 10.86.93.19 with SMTP id q19mr4450735fgb.62.1226098725499; + Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) +Received: by 10.86.36.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <5f360a620811071458p45350169u60fa72bf5787c529@mail.gmail.com> +Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:58:45 -0800 +From: "Ryan Showalter" <ryanshow@gmail.com> +To: screen-users@gnu.org +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) +X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:52:57 -0500 +Subject: caption never option +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1353 +Lines: 36 + +Hello, + +I'm using screen to monitor some applications on an extremely small 8" +monitor and I've been using screen to view the programs +simultaneously. For what I'm using it for, the caption bars are +completely unnecessary as I don't ever switch between any other +programs. It would be very valuable (for screen real estate purposes) +to have a "caption never" option for this sort of thing so that the +split screens were completely seamless against one another. + +I briefly looked back in the mailing list archives and it looks like +this sort of thing has been discussed before [0] [1]. + +I tried looking at the source code and was successful in getting rid +of the displayed information inside the caption bar but unfortunately +I still can't figure out exactly how to increase each screen's height +by 1 to take advantage of the extra space. + +Does this sound like a good feature? And if no one is willing to +implement it, could someone give me some help in my implementation? + +Thanks! + +[0] -- http://www.mail-archive.com/screen-users@gnu.org/msg01372.html +[1] -- http://marc.info/?l=gnu-screen&m=104939266629717&w=2 + +-- +"The sharpest sword can not compare to the sharpest mind." -- Unknown Soldier + +Ryan- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sat Nov 8 23:48:04 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF2E7FD568 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 23:48:04 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51321 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kz2DH-00059O-PE + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:47:51 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kz2Cy-00059J-U6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:47:32 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kz2Cx-000587-IS + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:47:32 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46650 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kz2Cx-00057u-Bj + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:47:31 -0500 +Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:32814 helo=ciao.gmane.org) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) + (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gcgsu-screen-users@m.gmane.org>) + id 1Kz2Cw-0002se-Vd + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:47:31 -0500 +Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kz2Cu-00059U-05 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:47:28 +0000 +Received: from ppp118-208-139-139.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net + ([118.208.139.139]) + by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) + id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:47:27 +0000 +Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-208-139-139.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net + with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 + for <screen-users@gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 04:47:27 +0000 +X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ +To: screen-users@gnu.org +From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) +Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 15:48:18 +1100 +Message-ID: <30hc6hijxp.fsf@Clio.twb.ath.cx> +References: <5f360a620811071458p45350169u60fa72bf5787c529@mail.gmail.com> +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org +X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-208-139-139.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net +User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) +Cancel-Lock: sha1:VXgzwGBrpPoF+2Y1fElB2Q82y7A= +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Subject: Re: caption never option +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 728 +Lines: 14 + +"Ryan Showalter" <ryanshow@gmail.com> +writes: + +> I'm using screen to monitor some applications on an extremely small 8" +> monitor and I've been using screen to view the programs +> simultaneously. For what I'm using it for, the caption bars are +> completely unnecessary as I don't ever switch between any other +> programs. It would be very valuable (for screen real estate purposes) +> to have a "caption never" option for this sort of thing so that the +> split screens were completely seamless against one another. + ++1. + +I'd also like to be able to disable captions altogether. + + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Sun Nov 9 17:04:29 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247B47FDB34 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 17:04:27 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45852 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzIOD-0004dc-Og + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:04:13 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzIMt-0003sG-K6 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:02:51 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzIMs-0003rR-62 + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:02:50 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57727 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzIMr-0003r2-Ji + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:02:49 -0500 +Received: from nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.13.205]:42455) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>) id 1KzIMq-0004PK-Tf + for screen-users@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:02:49 -0500 +Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) + by nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mA9M271A013788; + Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:02:09 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.24.147]) + by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA9M25WB012485; + Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:02:05 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA9M25an007121; + Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:02:05 GMT +Received: (from ht@localhost) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA9M24pU007120; + Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:02:04 GMT +X-Authentication-Warning: hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to + ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f +To: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +References: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> + <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> +From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) +Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:02:04 +0000 +In-Reply-To: <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> (Micah Cowan's message of "Fri, + 07 Nov 2008 11:00:22 -0800") +Message-ID: <f5bskq04kyr.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.4.21 (linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" +X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk + with MIMEDefang 2.60, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus +X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 129.215.13.205 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 16421 +Lines: 266 + +--=-=-= + +Micah Cowan writes: + +> I'm not entirely sure I understand what the symptom is that you're +> describing for running less under the screen-managed window, but it +> sounds like it might be similar to this one, which is fixed in the +> current dev sources: + +Thanks for your help, but I don't _think_ this is what's at issue. +More poking around suggests a _possible_ alternative explanation. It +appears that less uses the alternate screen buffer for its display, +which is why when it finishes in a vanilla xterm-color or rxvt window, +you see no remnants of the displayed file. But I guess, from what I +can gather of how screen is implemented, that screen is _already_ +using the alternate screen buffer, so when less asks to switch to it, +it can't??? + +As far as I can see, less is sending the +correct-per-terminfo-for-screen escape sequences, i.e. ESC[?1049h for +smcup and ESC[?1049l for rmcup, but they are not having the desired +effect. . . + +[Note that when running in a vanilla rxvt window smcup is ESC7ESC[?47h +and rmcup is ESC[?47lESC8 . . . ] + +Does this make better sense yet? I've attached pngs of the winning +and losing displays. + +Thanks + +ht + + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: image/png +Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=lessInRxvt.png +Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 +Content-Description: less in vanilla rxvt, winning + +iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAVIAAAB3CAIAAADeoV+JAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAARnQU1B +AACxjwv8YQUAAAAgY0hSTQAAeiYAAICEAAD6AAAAgOgAAHUwAADqYAAAOpgAABdwnLpRPAAA +EDpJREFUeF7tnWl4FEUexrNfd13XY3fdy9V1vUXF2yhqxBM0iCioeIB3lNuAAkkgQOQcwhWD +hBDkGKJoUAeDCg6iYIIHIS5sWESjiBqjq+F5/MDDsx+yLym2rO2u6enu6bm633n+zDNU6uh+ +q3/9r6qu6vrFzuatOfxQASoQGAWGjhybA+w7+aECVCAYCpSWlubl5R3GHvDTqAAV8L0CxJ53 +OioQOAU02P/y5Mfd2a9OGQI74tShR5w29NenDTvy9GFHnjH8N7AzRxx15oijzxp5dLeRx3Qb +dczZo44954nfws4t/F132Ojfnzf6uPPHwP5wwZN/hF341J8uGgv788Xj/nIJbPzxl44/Prfo +r7lFJ1xWfMLlxSdeXnJij5K/9Zhw0hUTTrpy4t9hV5WenFd6St6kU66edGrPybDTrply+rWw +sjOugz195vVTz7oBNq3bjdO69Zp+dq/p5/Secc5NM869aWb3m2d2z591HqxP6Pw+oQtumX1B +39kX9i2/8Nbyi/rNuRh229xLbofNu7T/vNwB83MHLLjsDljF5XdW9LjrGdgVAyuvuLvyyrsX 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Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> +References: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> + <f5bskq04kyr.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +In-Reply-To: <f5bskq04kyr.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1524 +Lines: 44 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Henry S. Thompson wrote: +> Micah Cowan writes: +> +>> I'm not entirely sure I understand what the symptom is that you're +>> describing for running less under the screen-managed window, but it +>> sounds like it might be similar to this one, which is fixed in the +>> current dev sources: +> +> Thanks for your help, but I don't _think_ this is what's at issue. +> More poking around suggests a _possible_ alternative explanation. It +> appears that less uses the alternate screen buffer for its display, +> which is why when it finishes in a vanilla xterm-color or rxvt window, +> you see no remnants of the displayed file. But I guess, from what I +> can gather of how screen is implemented, that screen is _already_ +> using the alternate screen buffer, so when less asks to switch to it, +> it can't??? + +Oh, is that the problem? + +Screen has its own built-in "alternate screen buffers"; just add the +"altscreen" command to your ~/.screenrc. + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iEYEARECAAYFAkkXiuYACgkQ7M8hyUobTrF0YACfYwOLc4KMeLr1sZ25h4qmIsF0 +wc8An23CpZu/upLfOhlfr+96NaTAkIVa +=DBXF +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 05:23:20 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290EC7FDEAD + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:23:20 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43826 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzTvH-000265-Lf + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:23:07 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzTun-00024r-0Y + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:22:37 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzTum-000243-6X + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:22:36 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60816 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzTul-00023k-VR + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:22:36 -0500 +Received: from nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk ([129.215.13.205]:34457) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>) id 1KzTul-00083K-Lt + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:22:35 -0500 +Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.33.33]) + by nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mAAAMLfQ024766; + Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:26 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.24.147]) + by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAAAMILA016233; + Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:19 GMT +Received: from hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mAAAMIQX012824; + Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:18 GMT +Received: (from ht@localhost) + by hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mAAAMI3r012823; + Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:18 GMT +X-Authentication-Warning: hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to + ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f +To: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +References: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> + <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> <f5bskq04kyr.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> + <49178AE6.9000904@cowan.name> +From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) +Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:22:18 +0000 +In-Reply-To: <49178AE6.9000904@cowan.name> (Micah Cowan's message of "Sun, + 09 Nov 2008 17:14:14 -0800") +Message-ID: <f5b63mvq3s5.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.4.21 (linux) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at nougat.ucs.ed.ac.uk + with MIMEDefang 2.60, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus +X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.60 on 129.215.13.205 +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1063 +Lines: 35 + +=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Micah Cowan writes: + +> Oh, is that the problem? +> +> Screen has its own built-in "alternate screen buffers"; just add the +> "altscreen" command to your ~/.screenrc. + +D'oh! That fixed it. Thank you for your patience, and for not just +replying 'RTFM'. + +ht +=2D --=20 + Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh + Half-time member of W3C Team + 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 + Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk + URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ +[mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged sp= +am] +=2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) + +iD8DBQFJGAtakjnJixAXWBoRApF0AJ9BfMrp2BSdjMQJ5+S33RTBxOMdWQCdExhJ +wENPKiTcpBkAmMnbntxDunw=3D +=3DvaZQ +=2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 12:48:42 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CC77FDC47 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:48:42 -0500 (EST) +Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38622 helo=lists.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) + id 1KzasH-0006jD-RF + for erik@plastic-idolatry.com; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:48:29 -0500 +Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kzalw-0003JG-Qm + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:56 -0500 +Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) + id 1Kzalu-0003HR-UN + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:56 -0500 +Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44579 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) + by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kzalu-0003HI-Pl + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:54 -0500 +Received: from mabruk.micah.cowan.name ([66.150.225.51]:39770) + by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) + (envelope-from <micah@cowan.name>) id 1Kzalu-0001NR-IG + for screen-users@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:54 -0500 +Received: from [192.168.2.104] (207.47.12.202.static.nextweb.net + [207.47.12.202]) + by mabruk.micah.cowan.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66498408804A; + Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:41:53 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <4918725F.7060005@cowan.name> +Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:41:51 -0800 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080914) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> +References: <f5bmygb5y0s.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> <49149046.3070503@cowan.name> + <f5bskq04kyr.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> <49178AE6.9000904@cowan.name> + <f5b63mvq3s5.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +In-Reply-To: <f5b63mvq3s5.fsf@hildegard.inf.ed.ac.uk> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: problem with screen.rxvt TERM and less +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1264 +Lines: 40 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Henry S. Thompson wrote: +> Micah Cowan writes: +> +>> Oh, is that the problem? +> +>> Screen has its own built-in "alternate screen buffers"; just add the +>> "altscreen" command to your ~/.screenrc. +> +> D'oh! That fixed it. Thank you for your patience, and for not just +> replying 'RTFM'. + +Note that, now that you have altscreen on, if you're running screen +4.0.3 you may run into that other problem I pointed you at: less +mysteriously displaying an empty screen until you refresh with Ctrl+L. +That's a bug in less, combined with a pseudo-bug in screen. Screen's +issue has been fixed in current sources (and no other terminal would be +particularly likely to trigger less's issue). + +- -- +Micah J. 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+ Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:02:36 -0800 (PST) +Message-ID: <491911EA.1060907@cowan.name> +Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:02:34 -0800 +From: Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> +User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: Richard Elliot <relliot@globalcashcard.com> +References: <7e04011e0811100949u1ae342efi790cf62c83736f53@mail.gmail.com> +In-Reply-To: <7e04011e0811100949u1ae342efi790cf62c83736f53@mail.gmail.com> +X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, + seldom 2.4 (older, 4) +Cc: screen-users@gnu.org +Subject: Re: sending CRLF via screen -X stuff +X-BeenThere: screen-users@gnu.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 +Precedence: list +List-Id: General GNU Screen discussion <screen-users.gnu.org> +List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> +List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/screen-users> +List-Post: <mailto:screen-users@gnu.org> +List-Help: <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=help> +List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users>, + <mailto:screen-users-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 1037 +Lines: 35 + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: SHA1 + +Richard Elliot wrote: +> Hello, +> +> I am trying to send a remote command to an existing screen session: +> +> while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"; sleep 1m; done +> +> However, I need to send a new line (CRLF) after the command "signon". + +Chances are you only need one of CR or LF, not both. Anyway, use octal +escapes: \012 and \015. (And yeah, I'd like to see a more complete set +of C-style escapes make their way in; low pri though.) + +- -- +Micah J. Cowan +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +http://micah.cowan.name/ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org + +iEYEARECAAYFAkkZEeoACgkQ7M8hyUobTrGP5gCeOhO6BuYb1vtr1O8IF0U4/jSE +JlUAni/Yg5vT6GwgAk3xHpI7DHDFrrB3 +=m69U +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +From screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 00:09:46 2008 +Return-Path: <screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org> +X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1-gr1 (2007-05-02) on + worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, + DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.1-gr1 +X-Original-To: erik@plastic-idolatry.com +Delivered-To: moculus@worlock.plastic-idolatry.com +Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) + by worlock.plastic-idolatry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D74605EE2 + for <erik@plastic-idolatry.com>; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Here is what i use<br> +<br> +screen -X eval 'stuff "echo abc\015"'<br> +<br> +Regards<br> +Pandu<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Richard Elliot <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:relliot@globalcashcard.com">relliot@globalcashcard.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> +Hello,<br><br>I am trying to send a remote command to an existing screen session:<br><br>while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"; sleep 1m; done<br><br>However, I need to send a new line (CRLF) after the command "signon".<br> + +<br>Any help would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>Thanks very much,<br><font color="#888888"><br>Richard<br> +</font><br>_______________________________________________<br> +screen-users mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:screen-users@gnu.org">screen-users@gnu.org</a><br> +<a href="http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users" target="_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br> + +------=_Part_94583_1635975.1226380098491-- + + + +--===============1387747716== +Content-Type: text/plain; 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boundary="===============1316193679==" +Sender: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Errors-To: screen-users-bounces+erik=plastic-idolatry.com@gnu.org +Status: RO +Content-Length: 3589 +Lines: 104 + +--===============1316193679== +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="----=_Part_72661_31430458.1226408368028" + +------=_Part_72661_31430458.1226408368028 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Thanks for the help. + +Would this be correct? + +while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"\012; sleep 1m; done + + + +On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Micah Cowan <micah@cowan.name> wrote: + +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +> Hash: SHA1 +> +> Richard Elliot wrote: +> > Hello, +> > +> > I am trying to send a remote command to an existing screen session: +> > +> > while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"; sleep 1m; done +> > +> > However, I need to send a new line (CRLF) after the command "signon". +> +> Chances are you only need one of CR or LF, not both. Anyway, use octal +> escapes: \012 and \015. (And yeah, I'd like to see a more complete set +> of C-style escapes make their way in; low pri though.) +> +> - -- +> Micah J. Cowan +> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer. +> GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq +> http://micah.cowan.name/ +> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) +> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org +> +> iEYEARECAAYFAkkZEeoACgkQ7M8hyUobTrGP5gCeOhO6BuYb1vtr1O8IF0U4/jSE +> JlUAni/Yg5vT6GwgAk3xHpI7DHDFrrB3 +> =m69U +> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +> + +------=_Part_72661_31430458.1226408368028 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +Thanks for the help. <br><br>Would this be correct?<br><br>while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"\012; sleep 1m; done<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Micah Cowan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micah@cowan.name">micah@cowan.name</a>></span> wrote:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br> +Hash: SHA1<br> +<div class="Ih2E3d"><br> +Richard Elliot wrote:<br> +> Hello,<br> +><br> +> I am trying to send a remote command to an existing screen session:<br> +><br> +> while true; do screen -S 19268 -X stuff "signon"; sleep 1m; done<br> +><br> +> However, I need to send a new line (CRLF) after the command "signon".<br> +<br> +</div>Chances are you only need one of CR or LF, not both. Anyway, use octal<br> +escapes: \012 and \015. (And yeah, I'd like to see a more complete set<br> +of C-style escapes make their way in; low pri though.)<br> +<br> +- --<br> +Micah J. Cowan<br> +Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer.<br> +GNU Maintainer: wget, screen, teseq<br> +<a href="http://micah.cowan.name/" target="_blank">http://micah.cowan.name/</a><br> +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> +Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)<br> +Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org" target="_blank">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a><br> +<br> +iEYEARECAAYFAkkZEeoACgkQ7M8hyUobTrGP5gCeOhO6BuYb1vtr1O8IF0U4/jSE<br> +JlUAni/Yg5vT6GwgAk3xHpI7DHDFrrB3<br> +=m69U<br> +-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> +</blockquote></div><br> + +------=_Part_72661_31430458.1226408368028-- + + + +--===============1316193679== +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Content-Disposition: inline + +_______________________________________________ +screen-users mailing list +screen-users@gnu.org +http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-users + +--===============1316193679==-- + + diff --git a/mode/ipython.py b/mode/ipython.py index f545e58..8dd3cee 100644 --- a/mode/ipython.py +++ b/mode/ipython.py @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ class IpythonGrammar(Grammar): PatternRule(r'comment', r'#.*$'), RegionRule(r'string', r'"', StringGrammar2, r'"'), RegionRule(r'string', r"'", StringGrammar1, r"'"), - RegionRule(r'ipython_input', r'^(?:>>>|\.\.>)', PythonGrammar, '\n$'), + RegionRule(r'ipython_input', r'^(?:>>>|-->)', PythonGrammar, '\n$'), PatternRule(r'ipython_reserved', r'undef'), ] class Ipython(mode.Fundamental):